Why are the stasi and there brutal police state not talked about as much as the other German police state and political party that rhymes with them and gets all the attention as the big bad toltarian regime? https://youtu.be/Aj7HX7I8KHs
because 80% of cold war historiography is made up atrocity propaganda in the same vein as the spanish black legend. maybe 300 years in the future we'll be far enough removed to take a step back and evaluate this period of history objectively
FPBP but I feel the need to elaborate here a bit.The reason why the Stasi isn't talked about is twofold.First, their mere existence is inconvenient for the NATO crowd because the Stasi had a completely justified purpose and actually did its job: it targeted dangerous former Nazi personnel that threatened the security of the DDR. Zersetzung aka gaslighting Nazis into insanity will never not be funny and justified.If the Establishment started talking about the Stasi people would begin digging into the matter further and come to the embarrassing realization that the capitalist bloc did a seriously shoddy job when it came to denazification, to the point that many former Nazis ended up with cushy government jobs in West Germany. This could potentially lead to serious questioning of the legitimacy of modern Germany (the legal successor of the FRG) and we can't have that, right my fellow EUrocrats?The second reason is that any discussion of the Stasi will inevitably circle back to the question of surveillance and here reality is also highly embarrassing for the Establishment.The NSA and Five Eyes' Orwellian level of intrusion in the lives of private citizens makes the Stasi look like a pervy kid spying on his neighbor undressing with binoculars.The Lives of Others is perhaps the best depiction of the Stasi put to film that we will ever get.The MC is ultimately shown to be well-meaning and does everything in his power to prevent the couple from getting arrested once he realizes that they aren't dangerous subversives like he was lead to believe.This portrayal is truth in televsion: Stasi agents really were like that, patriotic civil servants that wanted the best for their country with their only real flaw being that they sometimes took things a bit too far.I'd recommend reading an actual book on the matter rather than uncritically consooming ideologically-driven YouTube slop but unfortunately all the books on the topic written in Eglish are just as biased.
>>18543512Communists tried building a new world entirely from nothing though it didn’t work. It’s simply not as “punk” to hate on them like with Fascists, monarchists, right wingers who are mainly uncool old people who want the world we already have to continue going. Even if communist states were totalitarian what they were doing was different than racial apartheid states so it’s simply not as cool with young rebels to hate them.
>>18543578>Even if communist states were totalitarian what they were doing was different than racial apartheid statesstfu libtard, my socialist fatherland was a genocidal ethnostate and I'm deeply proud of it
I mean they are, they're by far the most "famous" secret police next to the Gestapo themselves.
>>18543582They switched minorities around and deported people to other countries but the end goal was still a border less world eventually.
>>18543582>t. Zoomer born after the fall of communismThere's nothing genocidal about kicking out imperialists. Turks oppressed Bulgarians for centuries, they got what they fucking deserved.
>>18543576>about the Stasi people would begin digging into the matter further and come to the embarrassing realization that the capitalist bloc did a seriously shoddy job when it came to denazification, to the point that many former Nazis ended up with cushy government jobs in West Germany. This could potentially lead to serious questioning of the legitimacy of modern Germany (the legal successor of the FRG) and we can't have that, right my fellow EUrocrats?Its cute that you always approach this topic with the assumption that everyone will read what basically amounts to "woah, Nazis built the more prosperous and nicer half of Germany??" And then come out of it thinking less positively of them
>>18543583Nah nobody cares much about them outside of Germany, the KGB always takes the media spotlight
>>18543512Because the German Democrat Republic was not the foundational enemy of the current World Order. It was a mere vassal state with barely any influence outside its small borders. There is no victory, no glory and no purpose to bring them up in discussions about morality just like with the other forgotten regimes.Another important reason, liberals and communist are far more alike than they want to admit, especially in their view on humanity. There is a reason why they fought together during WW2, forced Europe to decolonise, put an embargo on Rhodesia and South Africa and why many liberal states (especially the U.S. and UK) were and are still barely concerned with left wing extremists to the point where even open communists could enter important institutions during the Cold war. Obviously they were still enemies when there was no ,,greater evil" to fight agaibst, but compared to other rivalries there was far less bad blood between them.
>>18543850KGB was a foreign intelligence service, the CIA is at least tied for being the most infamous one of those and the Nazi Germany equivalent would be the Abwehr which was only notorious for being incompetent and ineffective.
>>18543576>m-muh nazisway to out yourself as a leftie faggot
>>18543576Tankies like you deserve the rope just as much as the nazis do
>>18543578>It's not punk to hate on communist authoritarians because it just isn't chud.
