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You ask me to consider Christianity as the answer for my life. I've done that. I consider it untrue, repugnant, and harmful.

You expect me to believe Jesus was born of a virgin impregnated by a spirit? Do you believe all crazy tales of ancient religions? Julius Caesar was reportedly born of a virgin; Roman historian Suetonius said Augustus bodily rose to heaven upon death; Buddha was supposedly born speaking. You don’t believe all that, do you? Why do you expect me to swallow the fables of Christianity?

It's incredible that you ask me to believe that the earth was created in six literal days; that a snake, a donkey, and a burning bush spoke human language; that the entire world was flooded, covering the mountains to drown evil; that all animal species rode on one boat; that language variations stem from the tower of Babel; that Moses had a magic wand; that the Nile turned to blood; that a stick turned into a snake; that witches, wizards, and sorcerers really exist; that food rained from the sky for forty years; that people were cured by the sight of a brass serpent; that the sun stood still to help Joshua win a battle, and it went backward for King Hezekiah; that men survived unaided in a fiery furnace; that a detached hand floated in the air and wrote on a wall; that men followed a star which directed them to a particular house; that Jesus walked on water; that fish and bread magically multiplied to feed the hungry; that water turned into wine; that mental illness is caused by demons; that a “devil” with wings exists who causes evil; that people were healed by stepping into a pool agitated by angels; that voices spoke from the sky; that Jesus vanished and materialized from thin air; that people were healed by Peter’s shadow; that angels broke people out of jail; that a fiery lake of torment awaits unbelievers under the earth. . . while there is life-after-death in a city which is 1,500 miles cubed, with mansions and food, for Christians only.
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If you believe these stories, then you are the one with the problem, not me. These myths violate natural law, contradict science, and fail to correspond with reality or logic. If you can’t see that, then you can’t separate truth from fantasy. It doesn’t matter how many people accept the delusions inflicted by “holy” men; a widely-held lie is still a lie. If you are so gullible, then you are like the child who believes the older brother who says there is a monster in the hallway. But there is nothing to be afraid of; go turn on the light and look for yourself.

If Christianity were simply untrue I would not be too concerned. Santa is untrue, but it is a harmless myth which people outgrow. But Christianity, besides being false, is also abhorrent. It amazes me that you claim to love the god of the bible, a hateful, arrogant, sexist, cruel being who can’t tolerate criticism. I would not want to live in the same neighborhood with such a creature!

The biblical god is a macho male warrior. Though he said “Thou shalt not kill,” he ordered death for all opposition (Ex. 32:27), wholesale drowning and mass exterminations; punished offspring to the fourth generation (Ex. 20:5); ordered babies to be smashed and pregnant women to be ripped up (Hosea 13:16); demanded animal and human blood to appease his angry vanity; is partial to one race of people; judged women inferior to men; is a sadist who created a hell to torture unbelievers; created evil (Is. 45:7); discriminated against the handicapped (Lev.21:16-23); ordered virgins to be kept as spoils of war (Num. 31:15-18, Deut. 21:11-14); threatened to curse people by spreading dung on their faces (Malachi 2:3); sent bears to devour forty-two children who teased a prophet (II Kings 2:23-24); punished people with snakes, dogs, dragons, drunkenness, swords, arrows, axes, fire, famine, and infanticide; and said father should eat their sons (Ez. 5:10). Is that nice? Would you want to live next door to such a person?
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And Jesus is a chip off the old block. He said, “I and my father are one,” and he upheld “every jot and tittle” of the Old Testament law. (Matt 5:18). He preached the same old judgment: vengeance and death, wrath and distress, hell and torture for all nonconformists. He believed in demons, angels and spirits. He never denounced the subjugation of slaves or women. Women were excluded as disciples, and as guests at his heavenly table. Except for hell he introduced nothing new to ethics or philosophy. He was disrespectful to his mother and brothers; he said we should hate our parents and desert our families. Matt. 10:35-36, Luke 14:26 (So much for “Christian family life.”) He denounced anger, but was often angry himself. Matt. 5:22, Mark 3:5 He called people “fools” (Matt. 23:17,19), “serpents,” and “whited sepulchres,” though he warned that such language puts you in danger of hellfire. Matthew 5:22 He said, “Think not that I am come to send peace on earth. I came not to send peace, but a sword.” Matt. 10:34. (So much for “Peace on earth.”) He irrationally cursed and withered a fig tree for being barren out of season. Matt. 21:19. He mandated burning unbelievers. John 15:6 (The Church has complied with relish.) He stole a horse. Luke 19:30-33. He told people to cut off hands, feet, eyes and sexual organs. Matt. 5:29-30, 19:12 You want me to accept Jesus, but I think I’ll pick my own friends, thank you.

One of Jesus’s many contradictions was saying good works should be seen, and not seen. Matt. 5:16, 6:1-4 One of his mistakes was saying that the mustard plant has the smallest seed. Matt 13:31-32. The writers of Matthew and Luke could not even get his genealogy straight, contradicting the Old Testament, and giving Jesus two discrepant lines through Joseph, his non-father! (Matt. 1:1-16 vs. Luke 3:23-34).
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I also find Christianity to be morally repugnant. The concepts of original sin, depravity, substitutionary forgiveness, intolerance, eternal punishment, and humble worship are all beneath the dignity of intelligent human beings and conflict with the values of kindness and reason. They are barbaric ideas for primative cultures cowering in fear and ignorance.

Finally, Christianity is harmful. More people have been killed in the name of a god than for any other reason. The Church has a shameful, bloody history of Crusades, Inquisitions, witch-burnings, heresy trials, American colonial intolerance, disrespect of indigenous traditions (such as American Indians), support of slavery, and oppression of women. Modern “fruits” of religion include the Jonestown massacre, the callous fraud of “faith healers,” the sex scandals of televangelists, and fighting in Northern Ireland. Religion also poses a danger to mental health, damaging self-respect, personal responsibility, and clarity of thought.

Do you see why I do not respect the biblical message? It is an insulting bag of nonsense. You have every right to torment yourself with such insanity- but leave me out of it. I have better things to do with my life.
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You won. I lost.
t. spokesman for all christians on /his/
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>>18547297
How do you know with certainty that miracles can't happen?
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>>18547297
My ancestors believed in this stuff for a thousand years, they can't be wrong.
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>>18547297
>It's incredible that you ask me to believe that the earth was created in six literal days
We don't.
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>>18547408
And pagans believed in their religion for thousands of years before Christianity. 1000-2000 years of Christianity is nothing compared to 100,000 years of paganism.
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>>18547478
Anon, writing wasn't even invented before 3400 BCE.
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>>18547344
The miracle of being descended from Joseph while also not being descended from Joseph?
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>>18547298
>If you are so gullible, then you are like the child who believes the older brother who says there is a monster in the hallway. But there is nothing to be afraid of; go turn on the light and look for yourself.
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>>18547591
What question are you trying to ask?
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>>18547615
I'm pointing out that you didn't acknowledge any of the contradictions pointed out in the initial posts.
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>>18547619
That's not a contradiction, that's a misinterpretation.
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>>18547297
>atheist giga.png
I have never, in my entire life online and in person seen an new atheist which even resembles that in the slightest
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>>18547647
Yes anon most people do not actually look like ernest khalimov, christians included. It's what is called a "meme"
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>>18547656
We are closer
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>you ask me
I didn't.
>Christianity
I especially hate it
>Me no like
Me either
>You expect me
No.
>Unreleting shit that I didnt read
That's cool, sugar.
But I believe stuff like picrel, not Christian religion...
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>>18547710
based
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>>18547297
“ You expect me to believe Jesus was born of a virgin impregnated by a spirit? Do you believe all crazy tales of ancient religions? Julius Caesar was reportedly born of a virgin; Roman historian Suetonius said Augustus bodily rose to heaven upon death; Buddha was supposedly born speaking. You don’t believe all that, do you? Why do you expect me to swallow the fables of Christianity”
Those people have no reason to exist to have done any of those things. Jesus Christ does. He is the Son of God, from Adam when we had no way back, cursed to be eternally disowned from our God. You posted an ugly bodied Muslim looking meme guy. You say Jesus is repugnant but that’s what the image you posted looks like. Jesus Christ was Prophesied to come for thousands of years. Julius Caesar was born an emperor and his empire came only after many attempts of failures from the Greeks and his own from their mistakes they learned from till they got more and more closer to what works. Jesus Christ was born in a manger of a virgin from God saying so. If you say man came from apes then you believe Man is just an animal so you have no reason to believe in God or anything of value about the soul or Creation or Creator. But you are still made by Him, and there really is an eternal hell where everyone is going when they die without believing in Jesus Christ’s blood for your sins.

God can do anything. You find that donkeys could be filled with His spirit to speak about the angel of the Lord coming out of fear strange in the face of an Almighty God. But that’s far from impossible. Science seeks order to observable truth, but it doesn’t do anything for you with regards to faith. If your wife leaves you , then you will move on rather than believe in faith she is coming back to you, because that is the observable truth. That is also the world’s/the devil’s desire, so that everyone leaves their spouse and that everything melts to anyone having anyone they want.
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>>18547478
paganism is not 'religion'. When people use religion now they're unknowingly using a post-colonial European idea of religion based on Protestantism
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I went over your gripes of Jesus Christ and you quoted scripture but showed you are dishonest with your critiques of him, showing and choosing utter disgust because you don’t like him, not because you are judging him in any sort of true light. I.e. you basically just hated everything he did and chose to judge and twist it when none of that is true. “He told to cut off body parts” yes, he said it would be better to not go to hell with that part, which is why you are dishonest. If a body part was bringing you to hell, it would actually be better to go to heaven without it, than to enter into the eternal lake of fire. You get your body back in heaven, and it even gets translated to the intended body God meant for you to have without sin and the fall, and it will never die or grow old ever again.
No I don’t want you to accept Jesus Christ, I want you to come to the truth that he is the Lord and Savior on your own. Because choosing to go away from him will send your life only down darkness away from God’s light and love unless you do.
Mustard seeds are indeed tiny where I live. They are practically smaller than tiny ants. Letting your light shine before men means smiling, showing love. There is a difference between that and showing alms on public. One is hypocritical. The other is what men are supposed to be to one another. (Again, you are being dishonest if you think this is a contradiction… read the kjv bible).
Jesus was God’s Son.
Blaming the Spanish Inquisition and crusades on Jesus Christ is called cheating. Jesus never said to do those things. Are you sure you didn’t join Christianity, cause those things yourself out of hatred and desire to destroy Christianity, and then leave it and then say “see look what you Christian’s did! I figured you out!”
Whether you leave or you come back, God is the one who is good. He gives comfort to the brokenhearted who would have none without it. Counciling only teaches people to move on and let go.



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