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is rape the ultimate weapon of war?
even if you lose - you end up winning in the end (unless the other population decides to mass cull the rape babies ... which oddly enough never seems to happen)
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>>18548054
The only way I can imagine that happening is if the exhilaration of victory lured the winning side into leaving their city totally undefended, and a small group of the losers escaped the carnage and crept into the city and raped all the women before the winners caught on.

Problem is that, on any given day, only a fraction of the women will be ovulating or nearing ovulation, maybe a third at most, so you really won't get very many rape babies from a sneak attack like that, you need an extended period of rape
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Who knows. Epstein "victims" were paid for their services, much like the politicians and entertainment actors and musicians.

And then they get to complain and sue and get paid again, which goes back to the same people.

They reenact what ordinary people in society suffer but they get paid twice over while the regular people suffer twice over.
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>>18548054
>increase the population of your enemy, allowing them to rebuild and get revenge in a generation
it may be good for spreading the individual soldier's genes, but from the perspective of the state it's 100% downside unless they also manage to conquer the territory in question.
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>>18548111
i was more thinking about something like muslim expansion in balkans or turkey
in the end they lost but large chunks remaind forever stained - i think chinks did something similar too?

>>18548281
takes two decades minimum for them to become viable soldiers
also there is the chance of them allying with you - just look at all the spanish rape babies that turned their back on south american tribes
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>>18548054
Only if you judge ,,victory" on an extremelly atomized level where the only purpose of life is spreading your own genetics and nothing else matters.
But what defines as success in war is commonly agreed as a collective or at least symbolic goal.
Above all, in most wars the victord rapes significantly more than the loser as they have the entire population of their enemy at their mercy while the loser at most only controlled a part of it. The only exception might be WW2 where 1.5 German Million women were raped in comparison to 15-20 Million Eastern European, but that was because most of Germany wasn't conquered by the Soviets, but the Western Allies whose war with Germany was more mutually ,,civilised".
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>>18548337
ofc i depends on the kind of defeat (you can lose without the enemy occupying your territory)

but i think that raping the enemy civilisation into submission can be fairly effective

imagine:
over the span of 50 years you conduct dozens of rape-raids into enemy territory
and one day you create a population that looks more similar to you than to the enemy
and they can become a powerfull ally allowing you to overtake a country that you otherwise could not have taken over
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>>18548342
It is beneficial in the sense that are spreading the genetics of your own race, but otherwise it is not beneficial. If you want to make an enemy submit, you cripple his population by taking away territory, force them into humiliation rituals, demilitarize them or just kill a part of their population. Raping doesn't do much, you just create more children and families than have every incentive to hate you and on top, is more difficult to fight a war against because due to genetic similarities your own people will have more qualms hurting or killing them.
Rape is usually something that only hapoens shortly after victory as a spoil to reward your own soldiers, but on an industrial scale and long-term it is not beneficial because you are essentially throwing away your chance at creating a loyal vassal state (for example, the Soviets who had to put their soldiers on the leashes to prevent anti-soviet sentiments in their satellite states).
If anything, you should manage arranged marriages between your people and the enemy's citizens and let the cultures slowly mix together, something which Alexander the Great tried to do. But rape, it has no putpose beyond spreading your own genetics.
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>>18548351
>force them into humiliation rituals,
and raping them isn't a humilation ritual?

>families than have every incentive to hate you
their children will be half rapenation - sometimes they end up siding with the rapist

>you should manage arranged marriages; let the cultures slowly mix together
why when you can just enslave and rape or just outright exterminate them

it's not like i am making up some kind of hypothetical here either
killing the offspring, raping and enslaving the women was fairly common
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>>18548054
>unless the other population decides to mass cull the rape babies
The number of rape babies in war is always remarkably small, even in mass rape events like the civil wars in Yugoslavia, South Sudan and DR Congo or the Bangladesh independence war. Women rarely make it alive and even then, they usually don't get pregnant. In Yugoslavia, Serbs even set up a network of rape camps to monitor the process and make sure that the prisoners would get pregnant with a Serb baby. And the amount of those victims is less than background noise compared to the total victims of the Yugoslav wars. /his/ doesn't actually understand the circumstances of war.
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>>18548054
I find it remarkable that the highest ambition of all dark skinned persons is to procreate with light skinned people. What causes that phenomenon?
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>>18548356
>and raping them isn't a humilation ritual?
The purpose of a humiliation ritual is to showcase someone why he is your slave and made to serve you. If you overdo it, he will have nothing to lose and rebel.
>end up siding with the rapist
Individual women are not a collective. Even if it's the majority of women, they are still subject to the common consens. There is a reason rape is (at least on paper) culturally despised across all cultures.
>why when you can just enslave and rape
See my first paragraph. Slaves who hate you have nothing to lose. You don't have to treat them as equals, but still give them a reason to serve you. Take the Spartans for example, the Messonian Helots were brutalised and thus always were close to rebelling while the Laconian Helots fought for their Spartan Masters to the death.
>just outright exterminate them
Then the rape had no value besides giving the rapist a short term satisfaction. If anything, a waste of time and something that decreases the discipline of your own soldiers, not the ,,ultimate weapon of war" like you described.
>killing the offspring, raping and enslaving the women was fairly common
I have not disputed that. But what you are proposing is doing this on an industrial scale, something completelly unprecedented in history except when the perpetrators were about to genocide them anyway.
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>>18548361
Combination of Cultures where rape as a concept doesn't exist and a desperate attempt to show strength towards their former colonisers.
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>>18548366
> If you overdo it, he will have nothing to lose and rebel.
maybe
but how often did black eununchs rebels against ottomans?
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>>18548281
if spreading the genes of individuals doesn't matter then how come chinks pushed for americans to adopt chinese in the 90s?
(also Mao once offered 10,000,000 chink foids to the US)
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>>18548384
They just died out and as terrible as their treatment otherwise was, were treated well enough that they didn't have an incentive to rebel.
That's different from your proposal which is set with long-term strategies.
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>>18548397
Had nothing to do with replacing the U.S. genpool. It was an offer to start mutual trade relations and send people who have Chinese interests to the U.S. to sway certain elections in their favour. Not inherently related to genetics, Mao was a communist, they don't really believe in genetic differences.
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>>18548403
>Had nothing to do with replacing the U.S. genpool
you don't need to replace them entirely
all you need is a couple millions of 2nd generation minions that are loyal to you

>Mao was a communist, they don't really believe in genetic differences.
you are implying that communists can't believe in genetic differences which is not really the case
also there are plenty of communits that want to achieve this suppsoed equality via creating one big mud-lump-race
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>>18548412
Who cares aren't east asians the highest IQ? It would be in favor of the Eugenicists to let chinks rape their wives. Which they probably would if they weren't contradictory and white supremacist.



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