Christians often post about science worship ironically but honestly it sounds kinda based. If the only things we can be sure of in this life are the fundamental laws governing existence then are they not holy and their pursuit revelation? The discovery of these hidden forces has granted countless boons upon humanity, what has Christianity for example given back?>N-N-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO THAT'S NOT HOW SCIENCE WORKS!!!! YOU CAN'T JUST FORCE IT LIKE THAT!!!!!!!The Soviet Union did basically just this by funding and glorifying the pursuit of science to an extreme degree and it took Russia from an empire of potato-farming serfs with their faces anchored into the dirt to landing on Venus. Their tech mogged the US throughout much of the Cold War even if other aspects of society were lacking.
>>18548267Bvmp
>>18548267because science is a tool, not an idol. you don't pray to a tool to do miracles, you use it. if anything, the closest thing you would get to worship science is to worship humanity as a whole, since they created science, as a method with which to study the universe around them.
Mathematical truths, logical truths, historical truths, moral truths, introspective truths, etc. can be found independently of empirical scientific experiments
>>18548267>Their tech mogged the US throughout much of the Cold Warahahah, no. not even close you stupid slavic bitch.
>>18548267What do you think worship means, OP?>If the only things we can be sure of in this life are the fundamental laws governing existenceWe can't. We only relatively recently figured out what gravity is, if we really even have...> it took Russia from an empire of potato-farming serfs with their faces anchored into the dirt to landing on VenusRussia is still a serf empire today. They just switched expensive buildings for expensive trips to space.
>>18548267That's literally just spinozism.Spinoza came up with it and was shunned from his Jewish community for it
>>18548290Jewish and christian, you mean.
>>18548276There is an order hidden behind the veneer of this world. If science is the only thing able to pull apart the firmaments and grant us brief glimpses into its inner workings then much in the same manner as the augury and prophets of the past it too is a holy art.
>>18548292>If science is the only thing able to pull apart the firmaments and grant us brief glimpsesIt isn't.
>>18548291Same thing kek
>>18548267The baconian project ended (both culminated and terminated) at los alamons with the building of nuclear weapons.
>>18548294Source?
>>18548311We knew things before science.
>>18548267>this specific methodology is the first and last source of truth, no other methodology can be developed or appliedThis is why Christians are correct when they speak of science worship.
>>18548317We only guessed things before science. Now we can know them.
>>18548321We got better at guessing certain facts. Science doesn't produce guarantees. Hence the p-values.
>>18548267Ugh, weve been through this so many times Science moves in paradigms, dumbass... you do realize that before someone realized that mushrooms forms cells, we didnt know about them? If science was a religion then wed be denying atoms because wed be sticking to older paradigms that dont know about their existence.
>>18548325It's like a puzzle. Once you've guessed enough of the pieces you start to see the picture, and can thus in turn also be certain of the position of the pieces.
>>18548330>If science was a religion then wed be denying atoms because wed be sticking to older paradigmsNo, we'd be testing old hypotheses against new ones.
>>18548334Thats not how religion works, retard
>>18548335Not how yours works maybe.
>>18548334We literally are locked in a gravity based paradigm because no one dares to come up agaisnt newton even though we live in an electromagnetic universe.
>>18548332You cannot be certain, no. You can overcome reasonable doubt. And you could still do it without science.
>>18548336You dont know shit about history or sicence, your life is posting inane bullshit on this place 24/7.
>>18548339The Solipsist decided to wait at the red light to cross the road, so he could tell us we cannot be certain of the existence of cars.
>>18548347It seems like romanticizing certainty is doing neither you nor the solipsist any favours then.
>>18548291Spinoza from my estimation probably held a lot of contempt for Jesus, so no. its his heritage.
>>18548267Because science works best when it's open to questioning existing beliefs, which is the very opposite of religious dogma.And since you point to the Soviet Union, you need look no further than the debacle surrounding Lysenkoism to see why treating science like a religion is a terrible idea. The Soviets adopted as state policy a set of theories about biology that downplayed the role of genes, actively suppressing research into genetics that we now know to be correct. It was very much like earlier efforts during the Renaissance to suppress the heliocentric model of cosmology in favor of the incorrect geocentric model. Anyway, the result of this rigid adherence to Lysenkoism was that the Soviet agricultural sector dramatically underperformed relative to the west, leading to persistent food shortages and poverty.
>The Soviet Union did basically just this by funding and glorifying the pursuit of science to an extreme degreeThey literally outlawed genetics and Darwinian evolution. They're no better than christards.
>>18548414Lysenkoism doesn't have much to do with science, so bringing it up is irrelevant.
>>18548267Science is allowing us to read carbonized scrolls the Herculaneum now. God could never
>>18548414>>18548451>Stalinist bslol
>>18548338Plasma cosmology is just cookiecutter contrarianism for people who have nothing interesting going on in their lives.
>>18548267>The Soviet Union did basically just thisNo, they worshipped marxism, Lenin, and Stalin. They denounced Darwins theory of evolution as a capitalist conspiracy, much like yourself. In reality, what you are proposing is the worship of shitlib causes, niggers, gays, and trannies
>>18548267Science is a process. Redditors that worship "scientists" and accept what they say without question are literally and unironically no better than religifaggots obeying religious leaders.Look at what happened during covid for a prime example of this. The types of retards who would say "THE SCIENCE IS SETTLED" etc. Complete faggots.
>>18548900>Look at what happened during covidWhat happened during Covid? Enlighten us
>>18548267Science is not religion.There are not scientific laws, but rules. They are true, but might constituye a particular case of a bigger, more general theory.
>>18548929They flip-flopped from "hug a chinese person" to "drump is killing us for not putting us in isolation camps" with some exceptions for the George Floyd riots
