>hear about the Stonewall Rights>heralded as the birth of modern day gay rights movement, when gay people in NYC stood up to a discriminatory police force who was harassing them out of pure malice and hatred>read into it>The Stonewall Bar was owned by the mafia and ran illegal drugs and prostitution rings which included underaged children sex slaves>This was all part of a wider push by the NYPD to shut down criminal front establishments>gays literally rioted by the police took away their little boy sex slaves>this is the bedrock of gay rights lol.
>>18550115>gays literally rioted by the police took away their little boy sex slavesok, now lets see your source on this
homosexuality is unnatural and no one is going to convince me otherwise
>>18550115Was it actual trafficking or just teenaged runaways selling their asses to survive
>>18550120>unnatural>happens in natureuh huh
>>18550127>its okay to rape children if they are poor and being pimped out for moneyinsane take.
>>18550137delete this
>>18550138>That rent CHILD was 17 years old you sick fuck
>>18550143>its okay to rape children if they are poor and being pimped out for money if they are 17!Yeah, fall back to this goalpost in polite society. It will certainly help the crumbling support of gay rights by normies lol
>>18550144Doesn't seem to be crumbling, well, maybe in those European countries where Muslims and Africans are like 50% of people under 30
>>18550148https://www.advocate.com/politics/new-poll-shows-support-for-lgbtq-rights-continues-to-drop-in-the-u-syou fucked up with the troon shit lol. It was a bridge too far and now youre going to die on that hill. Gay marriage was nothing but legislation from the bench and will fall the moment someone brings it to the SC, just like Roe v Wade>& humanties
>>18550115OP I am still waiting for you to provide a source on any of these claims. Particularly your assertion that this was a riot to stop police from taking away "little boy sex slaves"
>>18550155why has this happened?
>When the June 28 raid was initiated by his superiors, Deputy Inspector Pine was commander of the vice squad and he was leading a group of eight officers. The Stonewall Inn was Mafia-owned and there were 200 people inside when the raid began shortly after midnight with plainclothes officers presenting a search warrant citing the claim that liquor was being sold illegally at the bar>He also justified the raid on the Stonewall as a routine way of combating organized crime and noted that arresting gay people was an easy way for officers to improve their arrest numbers since, at least until that night, "They never gave you any trouble."where's the part about sex trafficking rings involving children again
>>18550151>will fall the moment someone brings it to the SC, just like Roe v WadeLmao it won't. A ton of the key figures on the right are openly gay and several are gay and married.>>18550157Turns out shithole state matters only rrally matter to those either stuck in them or lack money to move/get abortions elsewhere. So the whole "try to punish people who 'help' other get abotions" is juat a desperate grab at trying to remain relevant.
>>18550159OP's assThe fact that he has to blatantly lie shows that even he knows he is arguing in bad faith and cannot actually justify his hatred.
>>18550160My question is not why the number of abortions has not gone down after it was made illegal in shithole states. My question is why has that caused it to go up.
>look it up>the sex trafficking shit is a fictional side plot in literal fag propaganda about stonewalllmao can't make this shit up
>>18550154>>18550159>The Stonewall Inn was unique because it was one of the few gay bars in New York City that allowed dancing and routinely admitted people under the legal drinking age. Because it was cheap to enter, it became a nightly refuge for homeless, runaway queer youth who had been rejected by their families. Many of these street youth engaged in survival sex work independently in the surrounding Greenwich Village neighborhood to get by, but they were not part of an organized ring run by the clubYeah, of course the mainstream sources arent going to come out and admit that ground zero for gay rights was rooted rioting over lack of bussy you fucking idiot, but read between the lines. It was a mafia run club that catered to gays, it was run by Ed "the skull" Murphy who operated a blackmail scam, documenting rich and powerful men who went to the club to exort them for cash by threatening to expose them, and it was apparently a haven for "young queer runaways" who did what they had to do to survive. In a sleazy, mafia run, gay joint catering to hypersexualized gay men. Also, another funny thing is that this is first and foremost just gay men, but through LGBT history, they revamped the narrative and troons are we wuzzing it lol. They are claiming that trannies were key to the riots, but this isnt true at all. There was a famous drag queen who never identified as anything other than a gay man who was famous for going there, but he even admitted he didnt partake in the riots. Its interesting how this kind of scummy episode in criminal history has been bloated and lied about so much as a sort of creation myth. Like the story NEEDS exist or the whole foundation crumbles.
>>18550174>under the legal drinking age.important to remember that 18 was the legal drinking age at the time. So this means 17 and younger.
>>18550174Then why did the police officer in charge of the raid - who defended the legality of the raid up until the '00s - never bring up the sex trafficking in children?>and it was apparently a haven for "young queer runaways" who did what they had to do to surviveYes, there should be more resources available to help teenaged runaways so they don't feel the need to sell themselves, sure, but let's be honest you don't really care beyond being able to spin it as anti-fag agitprop.
>>18550174still waiting for a source on any of this bucko
>>18550184>Yes, there should be more resources available to help teenaged runaways so they don't feel the need to sell themselves, sure, but let's be honest you don't really care beyond being able to spin it as anti-fag agitprop.Once again, lets cut the bullshit. What do you honestly think was going on? What do you think these 17 and younger boys were doing in a sleazy bar run by the mafia, headed by a guy who was running a gay sex blackmail ring, and participating in "survival sex work" means?Do you think that just maybe in a hyper sexualized illegal bar run by the mafia, a man would pay a desperate and poor runaway for sexual favors? Im interested in this as a historical event for what it bluntly was vs how its used as a creation myth and how that myth changes in real time. There was a movie made about it 10 years ago and I found this article from Slate bitching about it because the protagonist is a white gay male instead of a brown troon. Why is that, especially when the stonewall riots were like 90% gay white dudes?https://slate.com/human-interest/2015/09/stonewall-characters-were-frank-kameny-ed-murphy-and-marsha-p-johnson-accurately-represented.html
>>18550184>anti-fag agitprop.its not so much anti-fag as anti-fag culture. The slogan was "what do you care what CONSENTING ADULTS do in the PRIVACY of their own homes" which is a good enough point. But the culture war has been pushed to the point where there is now a literal trans death cult committing terrorist attacks. Obviously, thats a fringe freak thing, but it is able to metastasize in an enviorment with no limits and that only seeks to push the envelope further and further. On a smaller scale you have shit like tax payer funded drag shows for children and sometimes in public schools in which Democrats pass laws or regulations that mandate that parents can NOT opt their children out of this. Teachers are also allowed and encouraged to foster children as young as 5 into becoming trans without the consent or knowledge of their parents. Because of this I followed it back to its root and the reality is that gay "culture" is contrived, trashy, and stupid. But worse is that by its very nature its a fringe psycho sexual expression. It would be better to treat it as a sexual fetish as opposed to a "lifestyle"
>I get a warning for posting a picture of a news article>anon doesn't get a warning for posting a link to a news articlekek are you watching this thread, my brazilian friend?
>>18550200This is both history and humantieis. Stonewall riots happened in 1969
>>18550199>culture war has been pushed to the point where there is now a literal trans death cult committing terrorist attackswhat on earth are you talking about
>>18550218Zizians. Trans death cult involved in several murder cases.
>>18550174>christard parents commit child abuse by throwing out their gay, minor sons>nowhere to go in the rest of the jew poisoned, gay hating society they live in>have no choice but to take refuge at a gay bar>"oy vey, how dare you traffic those children?"
>>18550240none of these excuses pimping these children out into child prostitution anon. Youre talking about cruelty but if the gay "community" really cared they would have taken care of these kids instead of preying on them.
>>18550247You've already consistently refused to provide any evidence of this alleged pimping. Your entire argument is that gays are evil because voluntary jews like yourself abused their gay children and went out of their way to deny them the means to survive. You can't even make the argument that the gays should have had some community outreach program. Because you yourself have loved harping on the fact that even just the bar was illegal and had to be run under the protection of the mob because there was so little tolerance for homosexuality.
>>18550120>using unnatural as a synonym for "thing I don't like"75IQ redditor moment
>>18550231https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ZiziansWow, don't think I've ever seen so much schizobabble referenced in one wikipedia articleBut still this is just like a few people, right?
>>18550127Groomers gonna groom lol
>>18550174>The Stonewall Inn was unique because it was one of the few gay bars in New York City that allowed dancing and routinely admitted people under the legal drinking age. Because it was cheap to enter, it became a nightly refuge for homeless, runaway queer youth who had been rejected by their families. Many of these street youth engaged in survival sex work independently in the surrounding Greenwich Village neighborhood to get by, but they were not part of an organized ring run by the clubPedo den. The cops shpuld have barred the doors and set it on fire
>>18550240t. Groomer pedo
>>18550174>They are claiming that trannies were key to the riots, but this isnt true at all. There was a famous drag queen ... he even admitted he didnt partake in the riots.Yep>Its interesting how this kind of scummy episode in criminal history has been bloated and lied about so much as a sort of creation myth. Like the story NEEDS exist or the whole foundation crumbles.It has been romanticized a lot yeah. But I don't think it would crumble, because the whole reason the gay rights movement developed in the first place was because gays found their scummy underworld situation intolerable. It's like yeah no shit when it's socially unacceptable and "known" homosexuals were bounced out of everywhere else, the only places that operated were Gambino-owned dumps that paid off the cops, what's your point
>>18550530lol the cops were making money off that shit. The whole prostitution industry used to work that way in big U.S. cities where the brothel owners would funnel money to the police union via bail bondsmen and they'd use the funds to donate to pro-police politicians. Not exaggerating.>>18550199There was a gay & lesbian rights movements that emerged in the 1970s and largely accomplished its goals. It settled down and adopted a general approach of "consenting adults" (emphasis on adults, will get back to that in a second) + legal equality like marriage (also practically useful for certain things for couples), and being able to serve in the military without being drummed out because your commanding officer discovers you have a same-sex partner. These are not only concrete demands that can be changed in law, there is a notion of responsibility/obligations here, and they're also things normies find acceptable because they don't have to really change anything about themselves. In a way it reaffirms heterosexuality as well b/c marriage = good. Who can argue with that? So the majority could surrender on these issues and not have to feel bad about themselves either. That's usually how a successful civil rights movement works.Anyways now it's weird because you have this nebulous "queer" culture that thinks it's a counter-culture, and often enough the people involved aren't even gay. There was a gay politician who got drummed out of a Pride event in San Francisco the other day by a straight guy (!) but he identifies as "queer" becaue he dates bisexual women and is leftist. This is kind of what it is now. There are trans people who do have grievances but it's still in a very immature phase. The focus on "trans kids" is repulsive to the majority and they haven't realized yet they need to change tact, but the whole trans culture is childish like that. It's all hyperpop, kids' cartoons, ~kids should be free to do whatever they want weeeee~
Pre-AIDS LGBT culture has always amused me. They went from being deliberately inflammatory/promiscuous to campaigning for gay marriage. Poor bastards discovered why monogamy is a good idea the hard way
>>18551779It's estimated that maybe 1/3 of the gay male population in the U.S. died because of it, which is a per capita death rate equivalent to the worst-hit parts of Europe during the Black Plague. That will probably have some effects on social and political structures. Killed some famous entertainers too (pic, not Freddie Mercury)In any event, one thing people don't tend to realize is that there are internal political tensions and divisions within LGBT culture going back to the 1970s. These internal tensions can stay dormant for awhile and then burble up again. There's a radical position anyways that has a view (oddly like the far right) that being gay or bisexual or queer is abnormal and fringe but that's what makes it authentic, so gays and lesbians who settle down are looked at as sellouts who want to be like straight people. But a person who believes that might not even be homosexual as in a sexual orientation, some are, but you can just as easily find some lecherous fat guy who wants to live in a hippie polycule with five girlfriends and calls himself queer because he's "open-minded."
>>18550115Yeah because they had nothing and the police decided to take the little joy they had.
>>18550530>"We had to burn down the sleeping quarters of the groomed child prostitutes to, uh, save the groomed child prostitutes"
>>18551899Ah, the ol' Waco strategy...
>Stonewall "Riot">Look up more information expecting an actual riot>Zero (0) fatalities>Less injuries than disturbances after major sporting events>Beer bottles thrown, fires started in trash cans, a few dozen arrestedWas that it?
>>18553244Pretty much. It was treated as a joke at the time because there were a lot of riots going on, "and now the homosexuals are rioting? Haw haw!" There was a lesser known one after Harvey Milk got shot in San Francisco around a decade later. A crowd marched down to city hall, smashed some windows, then got into it with the cops and set a couple of SFPD cruisers on fire. That might've been a little bit stronger because it was pissed-off adult gay men rather than street kids. There's footage of it:https://youtu.be/edE4DGRJHZk
>>18550115I can't believe groomers groomed kids... truly shocking.
>>18550174>Its interesting how this kind of scummy episode in criminal history has been bloated and lied about so much as a sort of creation myth. Like the story NEEDS exist or the whole foundation crumbles.Gay Windrush
>>18553301Bumrush.
>>18550115Did you read into it or did you see some schizographic a /pol/turd shit out?
>>18550127>just
>>18550151>& humantiesor just one humanty, whatever that is.
>>18550502>LaSota, who was 34 years old as of 2025that's the latest info, we do not know how old he is now.
>>18550199>It would be better to treat it as a sexual fetish as opposed to a "lifestyle"Lt. Obvious, you are up for a promotion! Anybody honest admits it's a paraphilia and the whole "orientation" theory is unscientific bunkum. This isn't new or special knowledge, almost everyone understands it on a gut level
>>18550115>gays literally rioted by the police took away their little boy sex slavesBut... slavery is legal in the US? The only thing that's illegal is private slave ownership, so as long as the gays take over the district and get their people in the police and the courts, they can keep as many child sex slaves as they want. Collectively, mind.
>>18550115>gays literally rioted by the police took away their little boy sex slavesgrammar is for ESLs, right?
>>18553841What happens is that it's sort of defined and "policed" in a certain way, like being heterosexual = normal. Homosexuality = fetish. That means you can exclude the homosexuals from socializing openly in most places so they end up concentrating in dingy bars, and that's where they start to form a distinct community / identity for the first time. It's a funny dialectic / paradox.>>18553863Well also what happened is that the underage / near underage boys were the ones who rioted. It was basically a twink riot.
>>18550137Where are there marriage laws in nature?
>>18553898Tbh the homosexual underground is a very interesting thing. It's a like a secret society built entirely out of convenience without any of th bells and whistles or mystical elements you see in those, they are probably as old as the proscription of open homosexuality legally or socially, and they existed in close relation with organized crime where it existed. I wonder if it cohabitated or was replaced by the practice of pederasty where it existed. Did the middle east or Japan have a HSUG?As an interesting aside, Mesaoamerica probably had one.
>>18551799Now that we're talking about Gay Culture in general I think the Political Lesbianism wave was really funny. It's like if homofascism was a real thing and not just a joke but also came from a group of ostensibly pro-gay activists engaging in something fairly anti-gay.
