Are southern chinese even chinese? They speak completely different languages. From shanghainese to hokkien to cantonese. Theres also hakka stuff. They are barbarians right? South east asians basically. Gorillion miles from the yellow river basin
They're basically sea monkeys. This is not a /his/ thread
>>18553161Different people originally who became sinicized thousands of years ago. Ethnicity is pretty arbitrary. There are ethnic groups that were originally different people that became part of the umbrella of the dominant ethnic group and ethnic groups that are virtually the same people in most ways but are considered different ethnicities.
>>18553165>& Humanities
They have Chinese looking names but are closer to thais or viets genetically speaking. They aren't ethnic Chinese even if they keep larping as Chinese.
>>18553166>>18553176Which is weird since during the Han Dynasty they took as many southern natives and redistributed the populace to make it as diluted as possible before resettling most of Southern China with their own people. Southern China at the time was already not so populated>>18553161Southern China is called the land of a thousand languages and a thousand gods, each Chinese diaspora hidden between the mountains both diverged and retained a part of the older Chinese culture the Northerners didn’t.
>>18553186>Which is weird since during the Han Dynasty they took as many southern natives and redistributed the populace to make it as diluted as possible before resettling most of Southern China with their own people. Southern China at the time was already not so populatedThis is false narrative of imperial government to lower rebellion. Southern Chinese arent Chinese at all and are genetically and linguistically distinct. They are just not Chinese. Im not sure whats so hard to get here. They aren't Chinese. They are Viet or Thais.
>>18553191Aren’t there records of remnant southern native customs like short hair and tattoos mainly existing in the North during the Song? Not saying the south are fully Chinese, but they aren’t fully native.
>>18553195They aren't Chinese at all in either the cultural sense or the genetic sense. There is a clear distant cluster when you put their genes on a map.
>>18553198Okay great bait
>>18553201Look up mtDNA F_ST between the 3 groups fuckwit
Is this why Taipei and Singapore function so differently from the Beijing Government?
>>18553204In what way? Only after Chiang Kai shek died that democracy blossomed and with the way Singapore’s democracy functions I feel its closer to a mixed regime. I feel both were influenced by the West due to their positions. Multiple top political roles were filled with central and southern Chinese.
>>18553209>ChineseStop using that word. They aren't Chinese.
>>18553161Theres a reason why they cats and dogs. They are subjugated barbarians
>>18553230This. People make the mistake of think cantonese people are chinese when they are closer to malays than they are to Confucius or Lao Tsu
>>18553230>Theres a reason why they cats and dogsThey what exactly?
>>18553271Cats and dogs.
They are negrito SEAmonkeys, nothing to do with Hans
the shandongsissy fears the nanman BVLL
>>18553161>From shanghainese to hokkien to cantonese. Theres also hakka stuff.All descended from Old Chinese and spread through the influence of the Chinese state. It's like Latin if Rome reunified.
>>18553308They aren't chinese and are disgusting baiyue rice eating scum. True chinese eat millet, wheat and barley.
Reminder that it is the Yellow River that is the birthplace of the Han, not the Yangtze. Note that southern monkeys are even further south than the Yangtze
>>18553307Nanman cucks were rolling around in the dirt while ShandongGODS were writing poetry and minting knife coins
>>18553161Southern Chinese women are objectively hotter than northern Chinese women with their iron jaws and tiny eyes.
>>18553176They are superior. They have the rapist male genes of the Han while northerners have the raped genes with rapist genes of various tibetan/xiongnu or mongol/jurchen.
>>18553353[Citation needed]
>>18553368Northhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fan_BingbingSouthhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cheng_Xiaohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lin_Chi-ling
>>18553387MOGGED
>>18553387AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>18553368Southern Chinese.
>>18553411Sex
>>18553353I found a pic
>>18553161Wu won
>>18553488Yangtze CHADS vs Yellow River cucks. Pear is pretty dogshit though but I guess thats what happens when youre basically frontier.
>>18553169>humanities means low-effort racial studies>>>/pol/ is what you're looking for
>>18553572>racego back >>>/pol/
>>18553638>>18553572He back again>>18553675
>>18553488>Tibet>Closest to Poondia>Lowest IQ of the countryInteresting
>>18553488The zhongyuan caveman vs the jiangnan scholar
>>18553488Shanghai is only high IQ because that's where most of the WW2 battles took place with the rape of Nanking. They are Japanese rape babies.
>>18554739This. They are Chinese at all. All the real Chinese are at Beijing, which never fell to foreign peoples.
>>18554805Manchus weren't a foreign people?
>>18554808Youre a fucking disgrace.
Seething northern rapebaby hands typed this post
>>18553161Cantonese is closer to middle chinese than putonghua. The original chinese people were from northern chinese, but then they all migrated south near the end of han.
>>18554925False. Southerners werent even part of zhou dynasty.
>>18553161Pretty much the white debate of who is white European vs too swarthy to be white. Imagine if all of Europe was united and people even had to question whether a Mediterranean or Balkan is truly german when they obviously aren't.
>>18554928>Southerners werent even part of zhou dynastyYes, that's what I said. Chinese people lived into the north, until there was mass migration by the Han people to the south near the end of the Han dynasty.
>>18554934South was never a core chinese territory and was a subjugated frontier
>>18553353Idk if she is south or north chinese but she mogs.
>>18554939That goes for everywhere outside of Henan, including the rest of the north. Even half of Shaanxi was considered barbarian lands under the Qin, leading to accusations of them not being Chinese.
>>18554958Qin arent chinese tho
>>18554960In modern China, only a few thousand can be considerer pure blood chinese. The rest are mutt rapebabies.
>>18553411Literally Korean
>>18553161>Are southern chinese even chinese?Yes.>to be Chinese is not to be Han>to be Han is not to have Yellow River ancestry or speak Mandarin They identify as Han Chinese but have Baiyue/Tai/Austronesian ancestry as well, and many speak other Sinitic languages that branched off Middle Chinese.
>>18555004So... They arent chinese? You wouldnt call latin americans european would you? Is a mexican a spaniard?
>>18555010>They arent chinese?They call themselves Chinese. Have been a part of China for thousands of years. Speak Chinese languages. Follow Chinese religions. Contribute to Chinese culture. Have ancestry from Han north of the Yangtze. What the fuck would you call them?
>>18554995Well, majority of Southern Chinese's Y-DNA come from Southern China.
>>18555012>What the fuck would you call themSouthern barbarians
>claim to be chinese>Clusters away from Beijing
>>18555019>Is that...a 0.01 difference?>Arghh...I'm going insane Nihaoman
>>18555025That is all the difference to separate a literal monkey and a civilized man. One reads and writes poems and songs. The other rolls in the dirt and lives in squalor.
>>18555017Yunnan fucking rocks
chinkspammer considers southern changs to be actual changs so that settles it
>>18555029In all seriousness, maybe the Changs should split up. It'll do both of them good, Norf can do...uh...I don't know what they do in the norf and souf can be the developed republic they always meant to be.
>>18555038THE TERRITORIAL INTEGRITY OF CHINA SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0125676Chinkspammer is wrong
>>18555038>be forcibly balkanized goyMmmmmm nyo
>>18555052Map (a) is Han chinese F_ST to Zhou dynasty DNA. Very clear that southerners arent civilized Chinese and are barbarians. They were and still are animals.
>>18555055>>18555058in english doc
>>18555058>BeijingAhh yes. Jurchen rapebabies.
>>18553161But seriously what does the Norf do nowadays?You never hear or see anything about it.
>>18555055>Peng state >Di barbarian state that took on Zhou customsOk.
>>18555064>Maria Khayutina notes that the individuals of Peng bore the Kui (媿) or Gui (鬼) surnames, which are associated with the di (狄 or 翟) "barbarian" groups in received texts.[4]Genetic tests on the bodies in the tomb revealed a predominance of Y-haplogroup Q1a1 in the tested male subset, substantial O3 as the next most common paternal lineage, and a mtDNA profile made up of East Eurasian lineages that have been argued as closest to present-day northern Han Chinese. Therefore, the genetics of northern Han Chinese people stabilised around 3,000 years ago around the State of Peng, and grew to be distinct from other ethnicities.[6]Northern Han are Di barbarians huh. Figures.
>>18555059Southerners and Northerners are genetically the same and have the same culture but regional chauvinism exists due to the North being repeatedly raped while the South were the rapist rather than the raped.
>>18555053It's the redpill. Multicultural society don't work and people should go separate way. Southern Changs should leave and let Northern Changs do whatever is it that they do up there.
>>18555073This. Northern expedition was a fucking mistake.
>>18555072Fake.
This is like hellenes being roman thing isnt it? Except, both are so similar that they are basically the fucking same.
>>18555073At this point you have just invented anarcho communismExcept your local village commune is now a "racial brethren hub" or something Enjoy your inbreeding
>>18555019To be fair to the Chinese, China is fucking massive and their population also massive. A few hundred years and they diverge quickly. It's why they have different languages between cities, vast distances and natural barriers. This also affects their genetics. A migration away and they become genetically and linguistically distinct within a couple hundred years. But in the end they come from the same fucking stock, patrilineally speaking.
>>18555270To add to that, during the Zhou, what the people understood as the Chinese people are basically a confederation of tribes/cities within the Yellow River valley that shared the same customs (but not words apparently seeing as how Qin needed to burn their books to unify the language). It wasn't ever some blood thing, although they all descended from the yellow emperor. Today, and back then too, anyone with patrilineal descent from the yellow emperor (meaning they came from a Chinese clan) is considered Chinese, anyone without isn't. So a Mongol man only produced Mongol sons, but a Chinese man only ever produced Chinese sons. The idea of racial purity isn't exactly found in the east as it is now in the west.
Yes, the clusters are both touching each other, they are one ethnicity. East Asia clusters tightly, they are one race.
