I don't understand why commies harp on about improved living standard metrics under industrializing communist regimes that arose out of backward agrarian nations when improved standards in such scenarios do not seem to be exclusive to communist regimes at all. Wikipedia sources tell me that under the Shah Iran's literacy rate tripled from 27% to 80%, the national income increased by 423 times, the Iranian armed forces became the fifth strongest military in the world, and the population more than doubled. And the Shah did this without killing fucking millions of his own countryman via some Great Leap Forward scheme. Yet commies seem to hate him.South Korea and Japan vs China are also examples that show communism is harmful to a nation's development if anything. There are few people today who would rather live in China than SK and Japland, which have far, far higher GDPs per capita and standards of living.>but the US helped themSo then capitalism is better because it allows for capitalist foreign investment and the advantages of having a pro-US foreign policy outweigh those of your supposedly superior economic system? This is just admitting that it's a better idea to not go communist and that it holds countries back. Really the improved development in certain formerly communist countries seems to just be the effects of modernization and the real effects of communism itself are "modernize long term at the same pace as capitalist countries can at best, but also terrorize and kill millions of your citizens in the process."Am I wrong?
>>18554763>Wikipedia sources tell me that under the Shah Iran's literacy rate tripled from 27% to 80%What source are you looking at? I haven't seen a single thing say it was 80% in 1979.
>>18554763Wikipedia is not a reliable source for anything. There's been confirmed cases of intelligence agencies editing entries. For all you know articles related to Pahlavi Iran are written entirely by diaspora trying to make the regime look good.>Am I wrong?On so many levels I don't even know where to start. For one you take what governments from the capitalist bloc say about the eastern bloc at face value when they have every incentive to exaggerate and even outright fabricate "evidence" to make their ideological enemies look bad.Second, can you name any examples of>the advantages of having a pro-US foreign policy outweigh those of your supposedly superior economic system?Because countries that had pro-US foreign policies like Pinochet's Chile, Marcos' Philippines or Suharto's Indonesia did not experience the rise in standards of living or GDP per capita you claim come as a consequence of allying with the capitalist bloc.Seems they got very little out of the alliance actually.
>>18554763>I don't understand why commies harp on about improved living standard metrics under industrializing communist regimes that arose out of backward agrarian nations when improved standards in such scenarios do not seem to be exclusive to communist regimes at all.Its literally just industrialization and a handful of public programs that any idiot can executeBut neither capitalists nor communists will ever admit it.
>>18554763OP's dubious claims aside, I still don't get what made the Shah so awful and terrible, like everytime I read about pre-79 Iran it just strikes me as a fairly bog standard Middle-Eastern state with an authoritarian state, but that's literally not a freakish deviation in that region at all and the Revolution simply reshuffled the aesthetics and foreign policy of the repressive state apparatus but otherwise it remains a repressive state still.Like wtf did he do that was apparently so awful [for MENA standards]? I just don't fucking get it
>>18554763>Yet commies seem to hate him.Because he, like his father, despised commies and Soviet Union. Hope that clears things up.Good administrator, but lacked zero will to actually get his hands dirty to stay in power.t. Iranian in Iran, not some diaspoo retard.>>18554798This seems like some roach cope. Everyone is literate in this country, unfortunately.>>18554940>I still don't get what made the Shah so awful and terrible,>Like wtf did he do that was apparently so awful [for MENA standards]? I just don't fucking get itHe forced US, UK, and France to pay for their oil fair and square like everyone else; obviously, can't have that so they thought they can stage a coup d'etat and sit their DESIgnated indian, kh*meini, in power to get cheap oil back.Yet another shit plan backfiring horribly by the three evils.
>>18554763Because commies are disingenuous pieces of shit, what else is new.>The USSR were da good guys btw>Illegally kill tens of thousands of endangered whales then fucking lie about it.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kufM56XIQSk
>>18554947>t. Iranian in Iran, not some diaspoo retard.How's censorship there? I know the Chinese government's attitude to 4chan is "who?" and they literally never even deigned to censor this place, but Iran seems more heavy handed desu
>>18554917Indeed, matehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Immanuelle
>>18554940No Iranian who was an adult at the time and is living abroad, for whatever reason, thinks the Shah was worse than what came after.However, due to the rising contrarianism that is modern politics and opposition to Israel, some are starting to consider the IRI as good.Overall, Iranians are gripped by an intense pride at war with their own stupid ignorance. It's hard to admit that they protested over nothing and gained nothing really, especially now that the Shah is a Jewish cocksucker.
