>Emperor Jing of Han begat King Jing of Zhongshan Liu Sheng begat Marquis of Luancheng Liu Zhen begat Marquis of Pei Liu Ang begat Marquis of Zhang Liu Lu begat Marquis of Yishui Liu Lian begat Marquis of Qinyang Liu Ying begat Marquis of Anguo Liu Jian begat Marquis of Guangling Liu Ai begat Marquis of Jiaoshui Liu Xian begat Marquis of Zuyi Liu Shu begat Marquis of Qiyang Liu Yi begat Marquis of Yuanze Liu Bi begat Marquis of Yingchuan Liu Da begat Marquis of Fengling Liu Buyi begat Marquis of Jichuan Liu Hui begat Magistrate of Fan County, Dong Commandery, Liu Xiong, begat Liu Hong, without office, begat Liu Bei.What legitimacy does Sun Quan or Cao Cao have?
>Cao CaoI have the emperor
>>18567542Piece of shit traitor. I will tear your skin off to wear it. I will eat your flesh.
>>18567535>baby hating mat-weaving sandal peddler has legitimacy to rule the empire because... he just le does, ok??????pipe down usurper peasant filth
>>18567567>his father is a eunuch
Liu Bei was at his most magnanimous leading refugees away from Cao Cao, in that moment he exhibited his highest virtues. Later in life he became arrogant and delusion in frustration to achieve the impossible, he did not realize he had already achieved his greatest victory. He succeeded in preventing the scions of Cao Cao from ruling China, it would instead pass to the scions of Sima Yi.
>>18567600And Sima clan fucked it up and led to Northern and Southern Dynasties.
Unfortunately Liu Bei's son was a total loser. Even if somehow Zhuge conquer Cao Wei he the neo-Han dynasty would likely fail. It would be kino if Zhuge took over like Sima Yi and established his own dynasty but he seems too loyal. Seems like China was doomed no matter what.
>>18567542FPBP. Liufags and Sunfags have no rebuttal
Weifags are scum of the earth
>>18567673If it weren't for Shutards and Wuniggers, Jinkikes would've never taken over and some Cao Wei God-Emperor would've easily curbstomped the five steppeniggers back to their yurts.
Man, I hate how 3K threads always die so fast.Cultivate some fucking taste and read the Records of the Three Kingdoms already, /his/>/his/>readingyeah yeah, I know
>>18568002Sima tookover precisely because Cao never held the mandate.
>>18568223/his/ is a euro/american centric board.
Remeinder that northern dynasties heavily mixed with xianbei and are non han. Tang emperors had xianbei wives and mothers . As did sui emperors.
>>18568230This isn't /x/, Jinkike
>>18568404Seething caofag
>>18568223No one cares about Changs
>>18568546This. We could have had an Indian philosophy thread instead of this chinkshit fakecrap
>>18568546You don't care because you probably never seriously delved into it. I personally find european history more interesting as well, but east asian history has been a close second for almost a decade by now. China's Three Kingdoms, Spring and Autumn, Warring States, early Tang, early Ming and Japan's Heian Period, Sengoku Jidai and Taisho era in particular are among my favorites and I can't help but think that many /his/torians would enjoy them as well if they weren't closeminded.>>18568626How's the weather in New Delhi?