>That's illogical! >That's irrational!Why must one be logical/rational? Blind adherence to either or both is no different than blind religious zealotry.
or you end up like this
>>18573132>each factory has 2 fully operational machines, as well as half the parts to build another one>this means 2+2=5 and not 2.5+2.5=5based and pre-1st grade math purism pilled
>>18573132>doesn't realize they too are following perfectly logical arguments to their natural ends
I feel like ‘rationality’ is one of the few self-sufficient values. It’s basically making sure your means and ends are aligned. Even if you deliberately choose to be ‘irrational’ in some way, you’re still making a rational decision to do so for the sake of your own happiness or values
>>18573180>rational=rational>irrational=rationalWords are meaningless and practically useless when they mean anything and everything.
>>18573172>>18573180>erm ackshually when you're being irrational youre actually rational because youre choosing to act in such a way!
>>18573132>irrelevant strawman
>>18573128Because logical and rationality are actually provable unlike God
>>18573128That's true logic and rationality is a turnoff for sex
>>18574517Really? You can prove it? How?
>>18573128>Blind adherence to either or both is no different than blind religious zealotryIllogically speaking, that means that logic/rationality is just inherently better. Do you find this an acceptable argument?
humans aren't rational or logical by nature. many of us strive to be, but often come to drastically different conclusions to what that means, dependent on our sociocultural upbringing and current environment.i'm not saying don't try to search for the right answers, but don't be surprised if many don't want to hear them, especially if they have anything to lose by internalizing the "truth" and "facts." there's more to life than that, and it often takes priority in others' lives.
>>18573163 >>18573172 >>18573339Look down. Your fingers are brown.
>>18574530Actually, it is logical and rational to have sex because only those that view sex as logical and rational have the sufficient mental faculties to recognize that emotional impassioned sex if often done by the unintelligent, thus the rational sex-havers have the moral obligation to create more intelligent life.
>>18573128Who says you "must" be rational? I prefer to be rational because I'm more likely to get what I want that way. Even knowing when to act intuitively, or mastering something to the point where you can do it without thinking, is just playing the meta rationally. So if you don't care about being good at life, be irrational.
>>18575452>Who says you "must" be rational?
>>18573128Based
Le dilbert man Scott Adams's most important point about people, if you read his books, was that actually people never act rationally about anything except minor and trivial things like "should I tie my shoes?" or "should I cross the street now or wait for cars to stop?"What we think of as the important decisions in life are 100% of the time never made based on rational criteria, we decide based on feelings and hunches and vibes and "just know," and then afterwards we rationalize those decisions to ourselves by coming up with reasons why the decision we already made was good and why we are actually smart and capable
>>18576891>people never act rationally about anything except minor and trivial things like "should I tie my shoes?" There is nothing rational about one's taste in fashion
>>18575452>he thinks himself to be a rational actor
>>18573339If I don’t need to be logical or rational then why does it matter if my argument is a strawman?
>>18576891it's because everything important in this world cannot be subjected to measurement, therefor we have to make decisions based on our internal experience of a matter
>>18573132This is because of atheism btw
>>18578270You tell me. Why does my superior rational behavior anger you so?
>>18573132And how is your libtard "maths" relevant?
>>18573128Logic is not a suggestion, humans are inherent logical machines. It's literally impossible for a human to perform an illogical action.
>>18578267>he's hearing voices in his head>he refuses to take his medications
>>18578273https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parasitoid_wasphttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_womb
>>18573128Because by Grace of God our Mother the Holy Roman Catholic Church has established that God can be approached with rational mind with which He gifted us. Therefore it is good and beneficial to be rational.
>>18578273That but also with astrology/healing crystals/ubermensch etc
>>18578865>astrology/healing crystals"Certain aspects of the necromancy <...> are derived from the Arabic tradition of astral magic that became widely diffused in Europe from at least the thirteenth century onward. <...> More generally, knowledge of this material adds significantly to our understanding of later medieval *clerical culture*. A society that had a surplus of clergy inevitably spawned an underemployed and largely unsupervised ‘clerical underworld’ capable of various forms of mischief, including necromancy, and indeed this underworld seems to have been the primary locus for this explicitly demonic magic. Not all those accused of conjuring demons were clerics; the charge was attached at times to laymen and occasionally women.[31] But the examples cited already suggest that clerics were disproportionally represented, and when we examine the Munich handbook of necromancy in following chapters what we will find there is a characteristically clerical form of magic, using Latin texts and presupposing knowledge of mainstream ritual.[32] The beliefs and ritual operations found in necromancy mimic those of established rites, somewhat as the threads are the same on both sides of a tapestry, and the patterns they form on the underside are recognizably related to those on the front. One might even suggest that a culture in which ritual occupies so central a place will naturally if not inevitably engender forbidden rituals, somewhat as the production of a tapestry necessarily produces on the underside a distorted version of the intended image. The study of late medieval necromancy gives an exceptionally clear and forceful picture of the abuses likely to arise in a culture so keenly attentive to ritual display of sacerdotal power. Our own society, more fascinated with sexuality and its abuse, has its own concerns about miscreant priests and their abuse of young boys; the clerical misconduct most feared in the late Middle Ages was of a different order."
>>18578273"The author of the early fourteenth-century *De essentiis essentiarum* (<...> often spuriously attributed to Thomas Aquinas in the Middle Ages), a work with magical, alchemical, and natural philosophical contents, believed that the artificial generation of animals using only the male seed and the generating warmth of the sun was possible,[93] following the Aristotelian theory that the mother’s role was simply to act as incubator and nourisher.[94] The *De essentiis essentiarum* cites an experiment from the book of Rasis on the properties of the members of animals to support this idea, though the author admits that he does not know whether it is true.[95] In this experiment, a human being is generated from human semen placed in dung in a vase for thirty days, and its blood is said to be valuable for treating many infirmities.""A fifteenth-century Spanish theologian, Alonso Tostado, describes a comparable experiment attributed to Arnold of Villanova, in which an imperfect humanoid being was created in a vessel from male semen. But Alonso relates that the humanoid was deliberately destroyed by Arnold before he had the chance to know whether God would infuse a rational soul into it."
>>18578856God created these abominations
>>18578808>Logic is not a suggestion, humans are inherent logical machines. It's literally impossible for a human to perform an illogical action.Star-Trek levels of cringe cope hopecore idealism
A bit of romance and emotion can make life worth living, but too much irrationality won't take you far. The world runs on cold cause-and-effect, so evidence, consequences, and what actually works. Logic helps you see clearly, make better calls, and actually get you somewhere.
