Why does Turks have higher ANF thans Nords?
>>18576736Why wouldn't they? Anatolia is the source of ANF. What's surprising is how high the Yamnaya is and how many Turks are predominantly Yamnaya + ANF, but this model looks amateurish. It's probably very wrong in several ways.
>>18576743What would be a more professional model, in your opinion?
>>18576775Well for one, don't try to pass off non-Turks as Turks. Also, include the Central Asian source of uniquely Turkish admix.
>>18576783>don't try to pass off non-Turks as TurksWhat do you mean? The European samples are only there for comparison, and all the Turkic samples are Turkish, even the "Tatars".>The Yaliboylu Tats, descendants of Ottoman Turkish settlers from Anatolia who settled in the rural villages of the Kefe Eyalet of the Ottoman Empire, which had been severely depopulated of its previously predominantly Orthodox Christian population, who, due to coastal attacks by cossacks hostile towards the lands of the Ottoman Empire, largely fled to the interior of the peninsula to the lands under the rule of the Crimean Khan.>>18576783>Also, include the Central Asian source of uniquely Turkish admix.I remember reading long ago that using non-ancient samples (as in using modern populations to measure DNA) would result in a bad model. I took this to mean that using anything other than older samples contemporary with each other to be a bad model, but I will keep this in mind.
>>18576793Forgot the wiki link for the quote. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crimean_Tatars#Sub-ethnic_groups
>>18576793You're right that you shouldn't mix sources of different time periods but it's not transparent at all what defines Turkishness in this model. Am I supposed to understand many Turks were mostly European? What is Turkishness then? A Y-DNA haplogroup?The bigger issue is you're just playing with a fancy PCA which allows you to use sources misleadingly.
>>18576808>You're right that you shouldn't mix sources of different time periodsgood, so when you guys will stop using andronovo, corded ware, bell beaker etc to model modern europeans? stop the larp.
>>18576830Your response is not an answer to my question. I legitimately do not know what defines Turkishness other than Central Asian origins. The model in the OP offers no insight into that.
>>18576844>I legitimately do not know what defines Turkishness other than Central Asian origins.Being a Turkish speaking Muslim with origins in the Ottoman Empire.
Which turks? those from Turkey? They are mainly armenians with greek-anatolian blood and iranian with not so high east asian ancestry as they larp to, they are not kazakhs. 10% hun ancestry only? kek
>>18577835+some jewish semitic admixture
>>18576736is this a slide thread, you keep making this thread while everyone tells you that these are balkan turkish outliers and the trabzon turks are also georgian-like outliers
