Who's your favorite deity that doesn't come from any of the big famous pantheons like greek, egyptian, norse, etc?
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I'm Greek and Greek Satanism was pretty big among edgelords/black metal here. But Satanists could never even begin to conceive a god like Tezcatlipoca, perhaps the only equivalent is in Greek mythology is Hecate, because of the association with magic and creation of the world, but I love the mix of warrior/sorcerer multiclass god and that he is an eternal taskmaster, brutal that demands not just reverence like Mesopotamian gods like Nergal in order not to send diseases, but actively dangerous and humanity is like ants for him:>For Aztec nobility, this "patron deity" is fundamental in the social and natural phenomena justified by religion during this time.[20] Extreme reverence and respect, characterized by ceremonial proceedings in which priests were "to pay homage" to Tezcatlipoca, or where "citizens waited expectantly" for ceremonial proceedings to start under the low hum of "shell trumpets," were commonplace, especially for this deity.[20] Utter respect from the highest position of Aztec nobility, the king, shown through the figurative and literal nakedness of his presence in front of Tezcatlipoca.[20] The king would stand "naked, emphasizing his utter unworthiness", speaking as nothing but a vessel for the god's will.[20] The new king would claim his spiritual nakedness symbolically through words and physical vulnerability, praising Tezcatlipoca with lines such as: O master, O our lord, O lord of the near, of the night, O night, O wind ... Poor am I. In what manner shall I act for thy city? In what manner shall I act for the governed, for the vassals (macehualtin)? For I am blind, I am deaf, I am an imbecile, and in excrement, in filth hath my lifetime been ... Perhaps thou mistaketh me for another; perhaps thou seekest another in my stead[20]
>>18576908Very cool
Dhat Badan, godess oasis and sanctuary. Translates to "she of the wild goats". She is a pre-islamic Himyarite deity from southern Arabia, in the area that is now Yemen. She granted visions to her priestesses. The local species of ibex was under her protection. First found out about her in a book about the gods of the area. There is an inscription about how someone bathed in her sacred pool and got punished severely.
>>18576897Tezcatlipoca, the lord of the near, of the nigh. He's basically fucking Tzeentch and it's the coolest shit ever.Idiot spaniards. What I would give to talk to a tezcatlipoca priest.
>>18576897Marduk, the creator god of the Babylonian religion and the chief god of the Babylonian pantheon
I've always wondered if each god is a different demon when you interact with them, or if it's just Satan himself wearing different masks so to speak.
>>18577818Who knowsMaybe you should ask Satan
>>18576908lol shit I'm >>18577767 and didn't see this earlier post
>>18576908>>18577767I'm glad I'm not the only one who thinks Tezcatlipoca is pretty fascinating conceptually. The way I see it, he was basically the god of things happening, the source of all fates that people come across in their lives, be they good or bad, the thing what gives motion to an otherwise static universe. Kinda like Sithis/Padomay from TES, except omnipresent and with a close personal relationship with everybody on earth instead of a distant primordial cosmic deity that doesn't even really have a personality
>>18576897Jesus.
>>18576908Imagine what it must have been like to be a catholic spaniard, arriving on a new continent, and you see the Aztecs, mass human sacrifice, cannibalism, pretty much everything that you would never conceive of a society at large doing, it must have been horrifying
>>18578121Now imagine what it must have looked like for an atheist. They'd probably be reconsidering their beliefs, since they'd be convinced they'd died and gone to heaven.
>>18578124>they'd be convinced they'd died and gone to heavenhuh?
>>18578105A lot of TES fans think Sithis is fake and is actually Mephala
>>18578121I think they were completely unsurprised that the pagans they ran into were doing the exact same things the old tastament says pagans doThe reaction that the portuguese had over the southeastern brazilian tribes not having any idols to speak of was much more interesting. They thought these people were merely godless and had no religion, and would therefore be easy to convert.
>>18578149>I think they were completely unsurprised that the pagans they ran into were doing the exact same things the old tastament says pagans doIt still must have been shocking to see though; its like how you know from what you’ve been told that if someone swims next to sharks they get eaten, but it would still be shocking to actually see (not the perfect analogy but it gets the point across)>the southeastern brazilian tribes not having any idols to speak ofThat would actually be interesting to read about, I’ve never really thought about native Brazilian religion. I understand the Inca had a pantheon and a focus in human sacrifice, similar to mesoamericans
>>18578142Sithis as he is worshipped by the Dark Brotherhood, as an edgy murder god, is definitely fake. Sithis/Padomay, the primordial deity of chaos and change that makes the universe actually do things and is recognized by every culture in Tamriel in some way or another, is probably real. The latter was supposed to be the "main" and only Sithis before Oblivion introduced the modern incarnation of the Dark Brotherhood, which became quite popular with fans, which in turn caused the original Sithis to be utterly eclipsed by the DB Sithis in writer's priority and notoriety within the fandom.
>>18578160There was considerable variation throghout the territory. But a lot of the southeastern tribes practiced a form of ritualistic cannibalism where they would capture a male warrior of a foreign tribe, who would then consent to a sort of ritual where he would spend a few weeks drinking and being given women to marry and have sex with, culminating with his ritual death after he swears an oath that his tribe would avenge him. Then the other tribe would kidnap a member of this tribe and the cycle would continue eternally. They also had all sorts of beliefs in pagan entities that got lost in translation during the early period of contact.But the funniest thing was how they would accept and believe in everything the jesuit preachers would tell them, only to keep also believing in their own gods and doing their cannibalistic rituals, which would prompt the jesuits to send angry letters back home complaining about the natives and how they are actually worse than the average pagan. The idea that they had to accept a single religion or that they couldn't hold onto two logically incompatible beliefs was alien to them. They thought the preachers were merely powerful shamans for a foreign god.Look up The Inconstancy of the Indian Soul: The Encounter of Catholics and Cannibals
>>18578121>pretty much everything that you would never conceive of a society at large doingSomeone didn't study their carribean history lmao, the shit the spanish did there made the Aztecs look like hippies
>>18576897Dana / DanuWe have a bunch of rivers named for this goddess.The Don, the Danube, the Dniepr, Donetsk.Which indicate that the origin of the goddess was southern Ukraine, Romania, around the Black sea.We also have Danu in the Vedic, the watery mother of the chaos serpent, and the Danavas people. What is nice about this is the Danavas, are the "old gods", the demons, the titans, the Jotun, suggesting they are related to the Early European Farmers and possibly the Cucuteni culture .In Irish mythology, their gods are the Tuatha Dé Danann; The people of the Goddess Danu.So this goddess travels all the way from the west of Europe, Ireland to India.This is an extraordinarily old myth, which looks like it was carried with the Early European Farmers and later the Western Steppe Herders to the west and the east as they migrated along the rivers. This is interesting because it allows us to date beliefs about river goddesses to extraordinarily old migrations, probably pre-dating the Indo European migration. i.e. The stone and copper ages.
>>18578200Interesting, strikes me as similar to the Maori >The idea that they had to accept a single religion or that they couldn't hold onto two logically incompatible beliefs was alien to them. They thought the preachers were merely powerful shamans for a foreign god.I believe that’s how most tribal, animist cultures viewed spirituality and Christian religion, so that makes sense.I believe Paul Hiebert talks somewhat about the tribal cultures view of magic in Anthropological Insights for Missionaries, where he says that the best way to convert tribal cultures is to talk about the powerful magic of God, to ward away evil spirits etchttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Hiebert_(missiologist)https://www.scribd.com/document/706147101/Anthropological-Insights-for-Missionaries-Paul-G-Hiebert-Hiebert-Paul-G-Z-Library>Look up The Inconstancy of the Indian Soul: The Encounter of Catholics and CannibalsWill do, thanks anon>>18578204The Spanish weren’t nice, obviously, but I’m talking about how they would’ve been disgusted by human sacrifice to pagan gods and cannibalism specifically
>>18578142There are people who worship TES gods in real life.
>>18578251>I believe Paul Hiebert talks somewhat about the tribal cultures view of magic in Anthropological Insights for Missionaries, where he says that the best way to convert tribal cultures is to talk about the powerful magic of God, to ward away evil spirits etcInteresting, I will look into that as well. Thanks
>>18578136i think he's implying that atheists are dumb and violent
Lillith. I dunno, I’m a misandrist lesbian so she really appeals to me. Also she is in a lot of anime.
