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If John said no one has seen God and John has seen Jesus then Jesus is not God.
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>>18577106
GOTTEM
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Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
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>>18577106
By that logic John rejects the book of Exodus too since Moses sees God in the book of Exodus.
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>>18577106
Christians can't reason so they won't be able to understand this
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>>18577250
Fucking Commie
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>>18577252
He's right, take the Marcionpill.
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>>18577299
1 John 4:2-3
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>>18577310
Is this true that God uprooted America in 9/11 with such a mind-blowing display of symbolism?
https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTSWuK2oW/
Man, God truly is a thing of beauty to be feared above all things. The elegance of his ways is astounding.
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Jesus was always the Son of God, but not God the Father. Nice strawman.
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>>18577252
>Moses sees God in the book of Exodus.

In Exodus 33:20, God states, "you cannot see my face, for man shall not see me and live".
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>>18577493
The only man to have seen gods face is Enoch and because he was no longer a man but had been transformed like one of the angels.

And on the 10th heaven, Aravoth, I saw the view of the face of the LORD, like iron made burning hot in a
fire |and| brought out, and it emits sparks and is incandescent. Thus even I saw the face of the LORD.
But the face of the LORD is not to be talked about, it is so very marvelous and supremely awesome and
supremely frightening. •|And| who am I to give an account of the incomprehensible being of the LORD,
and of his face, so extremely strange and indescribable? And how many are his commands, and his
multiple voice, and the LORD’s throne, supremely great and not made by hands, and the choir stalls all
around him, the cherubim and the seraphim armies, and their never-silent singing.
Who can give an account of his beautiful appearance, never changing
and indescribable, and his great glory? •And I fell down flat and did
obeisance to the LORD. •And the LORD, with his own mouth, said to me, “Be brave, Enoch! Don’t be
frightened! Stand up, and stand in front of my face forever.”
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>>18577496
The Book of Enoch is noncanonical.
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>>18577490
The fact that the prophecy was Isaiah 9:10 is ridiculous. And 9:11 says God strengthen their enemies against them.
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>>18577493
Anon three verses later it says "Then I will remove my hand and let you see me from behind."
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>>18577502
Have you read it?
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>>18577310
The evidence for Marcion being a docetist isn't actually very good.
https://brill.com/view/journals/vc/71/1/article-p1_1.xml
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>>18577299
Do you sincerely believe 1 John was authored by a Marcionite or are you just memeing
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>>18577106
What were the logos though?
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>>18577697
Yes it is
Not reading your cope paper



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