Why did boomers decide this was le bad? What were the long term consequences of the 60s/70s boomer hippy counterculture?
Why is it le good?
>>18577876Hedonism and propaganda by brown Catholics and Jews to convince WASPs >We're real [Americans/Britons] too! You have to let us live in your country!
>consequenceswell, this website, for one
>>18578067Yeah sorry, I don't have any sympathy for queers or redditors. I think cutting them off from polite society and letting them die of self-imposed diseases is a rather civilized approach, seeing as the government is unwilling to institute *actual* justice on those perverted freaks.
>>18577876The counterculture represented the minority of boomers. Most boomers lived normal lives while the hippies later became academics pushing the woke bullshit onto modern society
>>18578094based
>>18577876Because fuck the Mounties.
>>18578292No justice, no peace. Fuck the Mounties!Eh.
>>18577876from what I can tell, boomers in North America and the west went through this sort of deranged psychotic episode of mobilized self immolation and it was born out of their parents and authority figures being too strict. From what I can tell there was also this sort of counter culture movement in the communist bloc as well that was targeted at their authority figures, so I think its something to do with the post WW2 generation. But it does seem to have been much more corrosive in North America. I think maybe this is due to the baggage and history of Canada and America being founded as colonies and specifically Americans issues around racial discrimination and the civil rights movement.
>>18578067Unexamined Christcuckery is pretty lame, but good on the parents for adhering to some standards and maintaining accountability.
>>18578049>because some conservative podcast told me it was
>>18577876idk probably something to do with Nominalism; I think Martin Luther invented it. idk but Jay Dyer wears hawaian shirts and defintiely isnt gay or an op so I believe him.
>>18577876You can go to church any time you like anon.
>>18578056This. We're all on the website where you're never more than 3 clicks away from hardcore tranny porn and HD footage of Mexican chainsaw beheadings. 4chan leaking into the wider internet and real world has been an absolute catastrophe for the human race.
>>18578533bro I don't actually really believe in religion, I just use it as an excuse to seethe about random retards online, mostly due to getting my views from random youtube influencers
>>18578049Religious adherence = civilizational success. See Saudi Arabia, Qatar, etc. Fanaticism made them strong
>>18578570The oil helped a little too.
>>18577876It was bad. The nuclear family was social engineering pushed down from the state, to extinguish the natural tribal/extended family where children, parents, grandparents, cousins, aunts, uncles all lived under the same roof, or at least in adjoining properties.The nuclear family was specifically designed to serve the needs of industrialized manufacturing. It's not "natural" nor "traditional". The etymology of the very name is derived from the Atom bomb signalling its history as a novelty of the post-WWII era, which it was, similarly to the bikini.The nuclear family is the root cause for the autism and adhd epidemics, when one parent was suddenly expected to raise children alone without the help of a big tribal support network, as had been the norm.No suprise the first generation produced by the nuclear families immediately rejected the concept and tried to move into "communes" in search of a more traditional way of life. But fake tribes arent real tribes, and things failed to improve. We're all still living with the consequences.
>>18578576These arguments always forget that the suburbs were flooded with people explicitly trying to escape le heckin wholesome ethnic ghettos where everyone was from the same shitty village in ireland or italy
>>18578581Sure, it wasnt all forced down from above, although FDRs FHA did indeed set the political goal of getting people to move into a newly constructed nuclear family suburbia, and did carry it through. That getto living often involved tribal extended families living in squalor.But you're right that what sets this development moving is industrialism and factory owners and their need for hot bodies.
>>18578576>The nuclear family was specifically designed to serve the needs of industrialized manufacturing.That's nonsense. Industrialized manufacturing requires high density housing that allows people to get to and from jobs with streetcars. Hardly anything could be less suited for industrialized manufacturing than nuclear family suburbs.
>>18577876>Why did boomers decide this was le bad?They decided it's bad, but only for you. They traded you not having that so their houses don't drop in value before they sell it to Blackrock before they die.
>>18578576Good post.
>>18578302>and it was born out of their parents and authority figures being too strict.As compared to what lol
>>18578576>The nuclear family was specifically designed to serve the needs of industrialized manufacturingSo why is suburbless China raping the shit out of US manufacturing, slumdog
>>18578651Look into the FHA. They were openly operating under the goal of giving the US a perfect workforce suited for the modern world. One important thing for that workforce was that it had to be mobile and could relocate with the needs of the market. A multi-generational old-school tribal family couldnt or wouldnt do that as easily. That was the main reason. Secondary reasons was that extended familys share much more stuff so they consume less. One washing machine / 20 people makes a different market than one / 4.So FHA policy only approved funding and loans for newly built suburbs designed to fit one nuclear family per house.
>>18578664Maybe they arent as kiked? Maybe at some point you kike so much that you end up kiking yourself - like we did with all kids left at the mercy of one unstable mom.
>>18578570The Saudis and Qataris were camel herders squatting in tents in the desert and knifing each other for drinking from the wrong well 100 years ago.
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>>18578706>NO OOOOOOO if I go to church they'll tell me I have to treat niggers and troons as actual human beings!!!! ARRRGGHHH I CANT TAKE IT ANYMORE!!!!!
>>18578049You get to have a loving loyal wife and experience the joy of a father watching his kids grow. There is a sense of a future worth living to see. It’s better than modern day baby daddy baby mama culture that’s even infected whites. People live in a series of broken relationships which promotes antisocial behavior vs the nuclear family promoting a high trust society as people have the ability to bond healthily and cooperate.
>>18577876Though we could propose several socioeconomic causes for this, the analysis would be incomplete without asking ourselves why, in 2026, the life that the hippies rejected seems so inviting?Perhaps it's that our own future seems so uncertain, socially and financially, that a vision which promises stability draws us in. More than that, perhaps we need such a vision to justify all our efforts now. Then we can turn it on its head. The boomers lived in the most prosperous of times. In a certain sense, perhaps they could afford to be wayward, to dream big, and to try and define a 'more unique' existence knowing full well that if they failed, it would be effortless to find a job, a wife, to settle down, and to fall back in line?
>>18577876>Why did boomers decide this was le bad?They didn't ? Giving women and minorities rights don't necessarily imply a contradiction with healthy stable families, at least not immediatly.>What were the long term consequences of the 60s/70s boomer hippy counterculture?Not much. Immigration was mostly a result of colonization. Religious belief had already been rendered inoperative. The creations of global institutions and the decline in patriotism was due to WW2. The major consequences have mostly been the sexual liberation.
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>>18578659Im not sure, but I actually am interested in this beyond just cheap "fuck boomers!" slop. I've read through and listened to some interviews with American boomers who were in this movement and they all harp on how regimented and strict their childhood was and how they embraced smoking pot and going to California to LARP as magical indians in tune with nature ect.
>>18578067>writes a letter instead of doing this face to facelmao what a coward
>>18578576>The etymology of the very name is derived from the Atom bomb signalling its history as a novelty of the post-WWII era, which it was, similarly to the bikini.that's just straight up false dude
>>18578944>no argument
population across the world has been trending downwards for nearly 200 years at this point. The Baby Boom around the 1940s-50s was a freak occurrence and dead cat bounce for global population decline.I think because of this anomaly as a generational existence cause boomers to lose their fucking minds and I think it manifested in a specific way.1.) Their parents saved the world from fascist tyranny and established a new world order based on cooperation and global peace2.) They still lived in an AH (After Hitler) world with lingering issues of BH (Before Hitler) which made the new utopian world order incompletes3.) These two things combined with their strict parents created this strange world view of hating their parents for being clueless chuds because they didnt give them the complete utopian world order, but they also held up the order their parents gave them to be the best and most precious onethis is what motivated their paranoid crusade to exercise any remaining traces of Hitler from existence in order to usher in the real, complete post Hitler world order.
>>18578750You’re yearning for a past that you never lived in and can never exist againWe all agree that anti-social behavior and the emphasis on individual success has led to a society of distrust and greed. Rather than seeking a gimmick of the past, perhaps it’s time to re-evaluate what’s the cause of the social isolation we’re seeing today and do something about it.
>>18579887Ok do it. What do you propose as the cause?
>>18579884>population across the world has been trending downwards for nearly 200 years at this point.That is incorrect. The global population has skyrocketed in the past 200 years. Your fears about a shrinking global population are rooted in capitalist infinite growth mindset.
Why have a government flag in church? The Lord said that his kingdom is not of this world.
>>18579892Some current problems in the system that have caused an isolating society > Unaffordable Housing, Healthcare Pricing, and Stagnant Wages. All which have led to the average young person having less spending money for hobbies and social activities > A Collapse in Third Space (Hate the Gen Z buzzword but its true). Cafes are the closest examples but theyre still prone to many issues> An emphasis on individual success rather than re-investing in the community aka sacrificing friends and family you’ve known for years in exchange for increasing shareholder value > Encouragement of distrusting your neighbors. Algorithms and News outlets always trying to make you angry and become misanthropic. They will tell you why you should hate any given group if it means more clicks and attention. Literally every single demographic has been demonized at this point. Be it ageist, sexist, racist, etc. You say we need a return to religion and tradition, but which religion and tradition? Nuclear families were the beginning of the end for extended families (I dont get why white people put their parents in retirement homes and then whine about the collapse of family values). Modern day evangelicalism promotes individualism and personal prosperity rather than helping out the community and assisting the needy. We also have to take into account that we opened Pandora’s Box when it came to technological convenience. People aren’t going to go outside as much when you can use doordash, amazon, Steam, Netflix, etc. for your needs and wants. How we combat that I’m not quite sure. Rather than engage in a futile endeavor of discouraging or banning such technology, there needs to be places out there that people want to partake in that they simply can’t do online.
>>18579906Did we really used to have a lot of third spaces though?
>>18579912Churches, Cafes, Arcades, Libraries, Malls, Town Centers, Pick your Poison American cities, especially those that were built around cars, lack a central area. In many older cities, town squares were usually places that acted as a hub. A collection of places to be at all conveniently located near each other.
>>18579915I really did enjoy the public squares in Europe, people were hanging out there all hours of the day. I'm not sure it would play very well in American cities. The closest thing we've really got is Times Square, which is kinda fun to be in, but nobody's really there meeting strangers
>>18579917People are generally the same at their core. We definitely can and do have squares in some cities. I remember my college essentially being on giant square in terms of accessibility. Limited roads and large spaces dedicated just to walking. Within a mile, you could grab something to eat, watch a concert, attend an art club, randomly join a game of frisbee, hit the gym, or even just walk to a friend’s place all on foot. Doing something like that in modern american cities would require driving 30m, potentially paying for parking, and having the mental energy to even do said drive (especially during rush hour)
>>18579924Well yeah, that's a college. You have a private security force keeping homeless people and other derelicts away.
>>18579933Why are there more homeless now than ever? You can use police to fight the symptoms but it wont cure the cause
>>18579946Sure, "our cultural issues are partly caused by social isolation, which is partly caused by a lack of third spaces, which is partly caused by an overabundance of homeless people" is true but it's a bit off in the weeds.Obviously there's not one single cause for our isolating society, like you've identified here >>18579906, but why is it implausible that one of those causes is the devaluation of the nuclear family?
>>18578049>>18578507>leftshits pretending not to understand things
In the 50s America rose from the great depression and ww2 austerity into a postwar boom with new technology boosting productivity and America now the workshop of the world.Families went from the factories, mines and farms to middle and new lower-middle class professions in offices, department stores, car show rooms and the like, and their boomer kids realized the old values of turbo self-discipline and constant hard manual labor no longer applied. In fact being a creative innovative free spirit was beneficial in many careers. It seemed like they were sweeping away the superstitions of the past and petty excuses to oppress and control people.They could not see 50 years into the future, they couldn't see AIDS, they thought drugs were just like a peyote trip or a puff of weed, they wanted to believe that Jimi Hendrix and the Indian gurus the Beatles visited were IQ 100 low crime and high trust like white folx, that exceptions disprove the rule."Urban decay" became apparent to most by the late 70s and they voted Reagan and white flighted to the 'burbs, as >>18578576 points out. However it was more an effect than a cause. The process had begun with the great migration of black people north to cities like Chicago and Detroit and repeated in most major cities after civil rights. It was the boomers' attempt to replicate the wholesome trad communities they were raised in, of course it became a stale imitation without substance, but they were already degenerates and merely fleeing already broken communities.
>>18579980Left, Right, Up, DownThis bullshit is why we can’t get shit done while we continuously get fucked over. Glad we’re falling for the propaganda
>>18578067The parents are correct, faggotry is a sin. If they felt compelled to write a letter, it just shows that their child is so unstable they didn't feel comfortable talking face to face.
>>18579982> gets super close to class consciousness > resorts back to racism > nothing gets done as a resultIt happened to Kanye, so can’t blame you
People moved to the suburbs because people enjoy living in detached homes with their own parking spot, garage, and backyards. It's really not anymore complicated than that
>>18579996>gets super close to race realism>resorts back to marxism
>>18579996I highly doubt "class consciousness" will raise black IQ to 100, race is a severe deficiency in your understanding of the world
>>18580001Explain to me how getting rid of minorities will somehow fix all our problems and make the elites pay their taxes? The French and Russians sure had a perfect society. Thats why they didn’t cause any large scale economic revolutions at all
I'm glad the very existence of gays makes christkeks seethe. Your religion is dying everyday less people believe in your Jewish desert tales.
>>18580018> Still believing in IQ in the big 2026 You lose
>>18580019I don't believe that though. I do believe that black people en masse are a pain in the ass to live around, and that "this neighborhood is getting, uh, worse, we should move to the burbs" was a 100% real phenomenon
>>18578576this is absolute mindrot and all the communes failed
>>18578570see Pakistan, Iraq, Myanmar; etc
>>18579996>> gets super close to class consciousnessthey always get so close. i swear if it didn't have the phrasing didn't have "class" in it, rightoids would be all over it. they've basically been brainwashed to shut down their logic circuits and immediately start seething over select words
>>18580172If they weren't racist retards they still wouldn't be communists anon, class unity will never be a real thing, nobody, and I mean nobody, likes you tankies
>>18580095Pakistan is the perfect example of a people made strong by fanaticism. I don’t know if Europeans will exist in 200 years, but Pakistanis will.
>>18580192now imagine a people made strong by fanaticism with an IQ higher than Harambe's, wouldn't that be something
>>18577876Because real life wasn't like idyllic paintings.
>>18578067I would advise this kid to throw that paper in the trash, then continue to show up for whatever family gathering I felt like.
>>18580229I could just as easily make a highlight reel of beautiful idyllic scenes in any large city today.
>>18578695Sounds like slumdog cope, chepito
>>18580255what's the point of your logical fallacies, they're boring
>>18579906Most of those problems are more or less tied to mass migration.Yes, you will compete with FOB foreigners for housing.Yes, you will compete with the dependents of those FOB foreigners for healthcare.Yes, your wages will stagnant because a FOB foreigner can do your job for less.Yes, your third spaces will die out or get taken over by FOB foreigners gibbering in their own language.Yes, there will be little incentive to contribute to the community when FOB foreigners are free-riding off those contributionsYes, you will distrust your (FOB) neighbors for their refusal to speak your language unless they absolutely have to, and for all of the above.
>>18580229I can’t bring myself to feel too bad for Europeans. They had absolutely everything and squandered it in 1914. In 100 years they immolated their continent twice.
