Why does his video on the wheel make /pol/chds seethe so much? It's embarrassing how they don't even argue with it but just ad hominem their way out.
>>18577991wakanda will never exist
>>18577991so what bad argument did this soi have for you to be so assblasted?
>>18577991It retarded
Some rightoid ecelebs on xitter dug out this years old well researched history video and showed it to their troglodyte audience to swarm it with muh niggers comments, what about it?
>>18577991>>18578847>Makes the thumbnail “wheels are overrated” to a video with bizarre explanationsNot really helping himself, contrarianism is strong in liberal-left circles to defend things that are frankly stupid. Practically a reverse culture war.
>>18577991Because the wheel was only independently invented like twice in history. It's not a universal milestone yet it gets treated like one because it give /pol/tards carte blanche to screech about niggers being stupid despite the fact that Europeans didn't invent the wheel either.
>>18578862>Practically a reverse culture war.I mean the libs started the culture war
>>18578907Conservatives did with their cancellation of the Dixie Chicks.The rightoid cries out in pain as he strikes you.
>>18578893>the wheel was only independently invented like twice in historyMost inventions are like this. I think strategy games with tech trees really poisoned the minds of people who now think technology evolves linerally.In reality, the invention and mass adoption of new technologies is insanely rare. The norm is that one society adopts some useful technology and either takes over everyone else or forces everyone to adopt the same tech to compete, so the technology spreads from there.If you want to really judge a group of people by their technology, don't look at what they invented because over 99% of socieites never invent new shit, but see if they adopt technologies or not (which everyone does except for isolated tribal people).
>>18578893If anything Europeans were the ones who invented the wheel. But yeah, wheels are overrated and most people don't understand how inventions even happen.
>>18578907>another 2014 "oldfag" in our midstRiveting.>>18578862>bizarre>frankly stupidDid you watch it?
>>18578913That was some 2003 drama over Bush. The modern culture wars started in the 2010s and have nothing to do with the Bush administration. They started a few years before Trump and then greatly intensified in 2016.
>>18578932There is a direct line between the Bush era culture war and the 2010s culture war. It is the same fight and the sides look basically identical even today.
>>18578961Why stop with Bush then? Why not go back to Lenin?
>>18578964Because the shift in religiosity that happened in the 90s and early 00s when the boom in post WW2 Billy Graham type evangelicalism died down is the seed of the modern culture war, at its most basic level.
is his thought that the americas didnt invent the wheel because they didnt have pack animals and rough terrain? because if thats it then thats retarded.
>>18577991Amerindians did invent the wheel. They understood its function and implemented it in their toys.>noo that doesn't count because they didn't actually use it for laborThe first evidence if the wheel in Europe comes from a diagram on a clay pot rather than an actual functional wheel.>umm...th-thats different because....i hate shitskins or something
>>18578988No it isn't, chuds in the 2010s culture war were mostly secular besides the tradcath trend/branch of it which is now increasingly ridiculed by chuds anyway.Idk why liberals pretend they didn't start the 2010s culture war, like why are you even ashamed of it? Wasn't the whole point of feminism to go on the offensive to uncover the unseen patriarchal mores of society? Wasn't chuddery and the Manosphere a *reaction* to feminism?
>>18578961Bush era "culture war" was evangelicucks screeching about pokemon. It has nothing to do with todays social/political climate.
>>18578913You have no understanding of the world or culture you live in whatsoever>>18578988The 'modern culture war' is the modern struggle between leftist/ socialist/ whatever and conservative/ church whatever that goes back to at least the revolutions of 1848 and has defined the last two plus centuries
>>18577991>Why does his video on the wheel make /pol/chds seethe so much?He did made a small mistake by saying that wheels were not present in Africa or the Americas but he was correct about the rest. Transportation by water was the most efficient way of transportion before the invention of steam powered trains.
>>18577991This guy is a bit of a fag
>>18578907Kek this ugly dyke was just seething that the pixelated woman is more attractive than her. How did people fall for this shit?
>>18579106There's nothing funnier than going back and actually watching those videos 12 years later to see what the fuss was about, what led to gamers rising up and the past decade of bullshit and fat, corn syrup fed fascism returning to America? It's the most milquetoast first year of university social class type of analysis, he didn't even say anything, but most videogame players are philistines and blew a gasket over the most trivial of media analysis. She did grift the shit out of this for money, she is Armenian after all.>>18579102West Africa had pottery wheels and Mesoamerica/Andes had wheels for uses other than transportation but I don't think equatorial Africa had either.
>>18579106I remember a year or two ago, that retarded cunt "married herself" and all her faggot friends went to the "wedding". She has a lot of simps for some reason. I don't get it. I don't get why they wouldn't simp for a woman who isn't a dumb ugly cunt, but whatever. Not my life.
>>18579102>Transportation by water was the most efficient way of transportion before the invention of steam powered trains.Your point being what? Unless you live literally right on the riverbank, you still need to transport it across land at some point, you asshole.
I personally like this guy, but this video is certainly within the camp of afro-apologetics which is something that we have had enough of for the past sixty years.
>>18578862>he says, on the website that would drink bleach if a leftist told them not to
>>18579115The Asante had a wheeled treasury box so the idea of wheeled transport wasn't new in West Africa In Western central Africa they were used wheels for funerals and the transportation of artillery >>18579125>Unless you live literally right on the riverbank, you still need to transport it across land at some point, you asshole.Thing is that even compared to other forms of land transportation wheels vehicles weren't that efficient both in terms of speed and cargo capacity.It wasn't until the end of the 18th century that stagecoach became faster than horseback travel.
>>18579125And guess what fucktard? Most villages, towns and cities before the industrial age where built within carrying distance of water you cunt.
>>18578913>>18578907Reminder that the concern over video game journalism grew out of bounds on account of a dude was really mad that his abusive tranny GF would no longer let him play with her stick.There was no more stopping the deluge when it was revealed that she also made her own video game. How dare she make her own video game.
>>18579233Finasteride would have saved him
>>18579233Even worse - she never worked as a video game journalist.
>>18579258>The whine of "I just wanted to play videogames" was a complete lieNo way!
>>18579017The og manosphere were mostly coming from fringe right-wing ideologies, most were liberatarians/objectivists, some identified as monarchists, neoreactionaries etc. Some were just apolitical wannabe fuckboys and divorced dads. They got some relevance during the 2010s culture war though, but that thing was heavily astroturfed. It is fairly well documented how Bannon (with suggestions from Epstein) drove the whole anti-sjw movement.
>>18579207>wheels vehicles weren't that efficientCompared to what? >It wasn't until the end of the 18th century that stagecoach became faster than horseback travel.I can ride a bike faster than a tractor. Clearly engines are useless.>>18579211>within carrying distance of waterWhat the fuck are you talking about? "Carrying distance" in the context of thousands of pounds of cargo being loaded on to a ship doesn't even extend beyond the dock itself. Which you forgot about, by the way. If you'd ever actually lived near a waterway yourself you'd know that most riverbanks aren't even suitable for getting in and out of a canoe.Have fun hiring an army of porters to move what could be handled by one guy with a handcart.
>>18579280>an army of portersWhat, you don't have an army of servants to do the work for you? You poor as well as being a cunt?
>>18579280>Compared to what?Horses and camel caravans>I can ride a bike faster than a tractorYou are comparing apples to oranges. A bike is a vehicle for transportation, A tractor is a vehicle designed to reduce the physical exertion involved in agricultural, mining, and construction work.
A thousand years from now, Martian imperial court eunuchs will be exchanging neuro-missives decrying the atrocities committed by the terrorist organization "Vidya" in the late Estados Unidos.
>>18579274>It is fairly well documented how Bannon (with suggestions from Epstein) drove the whole anti-sjw movement.Really. "Fairly well documented." May I see?
>>18579308Not him but Bannon has openly talked about how he took loser disaffected gamer men and turned them into an army for Trump, it isn't hidden
>>18579323SJWs are entirely hateable on their own merits, you know.
>>18579300Better than that mystical hacker 4chan
>>18579296>Horses and camel caravansFirst of all, these animals were substantially more expensive, both to purchase and maintain, than a cart. And second, their efficiency is increased by the wheel too. In every context where coupling animal power with a wheeled vehicle was feasible, it was done. It even works better with the animals' anatomy and psychology. Pulling weight is much more natural for a horse than having it placed directly on top of them. And it doesn't simulate being attacked by their natural predator.>You are comparing apples to oranges.That was the point. Because that's what you were doing. A stagecoach is a vehicle for transporting sedentary passengers and their luggage over decently long distances.
If anything that video proved to me Africa was always a shithole.Wtf you mean they never had the wheel? Even mesoamericans had a wheel. No wonder africa is hell on earth,the worst place in this goddamn planet, it always was.
>>18579357Didn't watch the video award
>>18579323May I see?
>>18579308>>18579363Here's a good summary: https://aftermath.site/jeffrey-epstein-files-kotick-thiel-xbox-rockstar/
>>18579331>A Jewish pedovore told me to hate justice, so I did
>>18579115Isnt equatorial africa pretty much just rainforest?
>>18579274Bannon is a sloppy drunk who takes credit for shit he didn’t do. The origin was the 2007-2011 financial crash, a lot of very smart people were under employed. They congregated on a small number of blogs and forums - primarily mpc and salo, and for blogs: Moldberg, sailer, alt/race/hist, chateau heartiste, etc. Ricky Henderson for example was on mpc - 2nd city bureaucrat, bap, etc were on salo. this cadre then heavily pushed for Trump via twitter. All of this was a completely reasonable reaction to shitlibs turning video games into faggot diversity seminars.
>>18579388it was kushner, roger stone, epstein, the watkinses, rapeape, weev
>>18579395Weev was on mpc, but he also spent most of 2012 in fucking hiding with 8 hours of electricity a day in Lebanon. It cramped his effect quite a bit.
>>18579388>muh videogamesNope, a Jewish pedovore told you what to do and you went "YES SIR!!!" and marched off to war for him.
>>18579406If you can’t describe the world as it is, you’ll never get what you want. Faggot antisemitism is even more distasteful than peasant antisemitism - if it wasn’t for Jews, we’d still be putting you in insane asylums and castrating you.
>>18579380yeah literally nothing in that article suggests Bannon drove the whole anti-sjw movement, in fact the article explicitly states the anti-sjw movement was under way when Bannon came along
>>18579351nta>animals were substantially more expensive, both to purchase and maintain, than a cart.I think it would be easy to argue that this statement entirely depends on where and who you are. A pastoralist with his herd won't have too much of a problem with animals but a cart would require extra knowledge and time and resources to have.>was feasibleThat's the main point here I think, it either wasn't feasible or wasn't feasible enough to be considered worthwhile. You need an animal to pull it, relatively flat terrain or roads, and a reason to. If you have no need to carry large loads you won't need a cart. Or you already have an alternative that works for you like hundreds of slaves that you can order around; someone would need to be motivated and have a reason to break out of that situation. >It even works better with the animals' anatomyThat's not entirely true either as the horses needed a horse collar to pull heavy loads and the Romans didn't invent the horse collar so they needed to rely on oxen. It seems obvious in hindsight but actually attaching a cart to an animal and having it tame enough isn't a trivial issue. Nor is the design of the cart. You mentioned stagecoaches but they had a slew of development like adding suspension and the infrastructure around stagecoaches like places to store the coaches across the entire length of road before they really came into their own.In this why didn't Africa have the wheel debate the more important question is why didn't have Africa have big trading cities or communities or huge tracts of arable land that would require extra power to till. Those are actual reasons you would require wheels and roads and animal powered transport.
jews trying to claim that they are the saviors of homosexuals when they are personally responsible for all anti-homosexual sentiment on the entire planet is one of their more absurd lies. Which is saying something, considering the tribe in question.
>>18579351>was feasible, it was donethats the entire point. it wasn't feasible >their efficiency is increased by the wheel too>t. guy that thinks roads just naturally appear and mountains, swamps, dunes, and rough terrain don't meaningfully exist i don't really understand this tendency. ancient, medieval, and early modern people weren't stupid. if people have eschewed using wheels for thousands of years even when they clearly knew wheels existed, maybe they had good reasons to do so>stagecoach is a vehicle for transporting sedentary passengers and their luggage over decently long distancessimilar to just using a horse, or camel, or donkey or a mule, which was often preferred over using a stagecoach
>>18579381>I'm not a dumb ugly mentally ill freak because some jew doesn't like me
>>18577991
>>18579422>if it wasn’t for Leviticus, no one would be disgusted that I am a boy botherer!Every religion that exists for more than 400 years comes to the exact same conclusion about you. The modern lgbt movement is even more heavily larded and led by sheenies than communism ever was.
>uga buga we no need wheel uga bugga
>>18579413>Jews are good, actually >Heil Israel! Heil Israel! HEIL ISRAEL HEIL ISRAEL HEIL ISRAEL!!!!!It was the logical conclusion of this place after all..
>>18579426But you DO like the Jewish pedovore. That's why do you do his bidding with a smile.
>>18579432My personal theory is that chariot warfare is what really popularised the wheel and eventually led to stuff like coaches and carts.
>>18579435I don't know anything about him. Every living person can take one look at you and tell you're a mentally ill freak, they don't have to know about this jew you're obsessed with to come to that conclusion. Do you blame your parents disowning you on this guy too?
>>18579435>do his biddinglike what?
>>18579428>censoring the main reasons
>>185794421. Racism2. Redlining3. Stereotype Threat4. The “n” word 5. A Jinn did it.
>>18579437>>18579440Like dancing to his tune and ensuring the most pro Israel president in history gets elected.
>>18579436I support your theory. All technology is driven by men trying to kill each other better.
>>18579442Africans are too stupid to use 1800 tech yes.Best korea atleast has steam cars and functional roads btw despite being cut off from the world
>>18578893Whoa were you there? Source? Schizo thinks wheels ever existed around huwites? Debunked! Debunked!
>>18579450There has been no change in policy - every last president since (ironically bush I) has rubber stamped Israeli expansionism and increased their subsidies.
>>18579421Horses were still very valuable among nomadic pastoralists. And they still used wheeled vehicles. That's where wheeled vehicles as a viable form of transport first came from. And that was back when such vehicles were super expensive.>it either wasn't feasible or wasn't feasible enough to be considered worthwhileWheeled vehicles were feasible almost everywhere where people lived. We know that because they still are now where they are used even in places where they weren't historically. And no, slavery is not a justification either. A slave with a cart is more productive than one without.>horses needed a horse collar to pull heavy loadsYou can't put heavy loads on a horses back, either. Just a rider is a considerable strain, especially for pre-modern horses.>they needed to rely on oxenWhich are more efficient pulling a wheeled vehicle.I agree with your last part. Wheels are obviously less useful in a less agrarian society with minimal long distance trade. But wheels being less useful for societal reasons is a far cry from people trying to act like they were useless for environmental reasons. And it also doesn't address the Americas. They had wheels. And they had societies that would have benefited from wheeled hand carts. And yet they did not use them.
>>18579450I don't care about Israel.
>>18579471And yet you work night and day to ensure Israel prospers. Good goy!
>>18579467>There has been no change in policy >Apart from the Americans literally fighting and dying for Israel as we post
>>18579486> Apart from the Americans literally fighting and dying for Israel as we postWhat is this tranny talking about?
>>18579423>it wasn't feasibleThere are very few places where people live where wheeled vehicles are unfeasible.>thinks roads just naturally appearYou need roads for more than incidental foot and hoof traffic too, you retard. Have you never once in your life walked through actual wilderness?>eschewed using wheels for thousands of years even when they clearly knew wheels existedAlmost no one did this. The overwhelming majority of peoples that knew about wheels used them for vehicles.>passively riding in a carriage>similar to riding a horseIf you can't even muster up the barest sliver of honesty then why do even bother replying?
>>18579483Meds time.
>>18579442Okay, so explain why the railways functioned properly under a literal system of Institutional White Supremacy where Whites were 5% of the population, but when the Whites left the railways stopped working. It almost seems like White Supremacy is a requirement for systems to function.
>>18579450>dancing to his tunecan you explain what you mean by this without metaphors? Is it just "voted for him"?
>>18579502I'm guessing that bitter whites sabotaged the railways when they got kicked out. I didn't read that anywhere but it fits in with the rest of european history
>>18579429Except for every single other religion that has ever existed in all of human history.
>>18579507>Hindu texts largely don't discriminate between heterosexual and homosexual acts, however they do explicitly mention procreative and non-procreative sexual acts.[7][8][9] The Arthashastra argues that homosexual intercourse is an offence, and encourages chastity.[10] The Dharmashastra recognises the existence of homosexuality, and openly condemns non-vaginal sex in religious or moral terms.[11] The Manusmriti regards homosexual (as well as heterosexual) acts in an ox cart as a source of ritual pollution.[12] These commentaries were written as guides for sexual misconduct (heterosexual and homosexual).[13] In the Manusmirti and the Arthashastra of Kautilya, homosexual contact is compared to having sex with menstruating woman, which is sinful and demands a purification ritual. The Dharmashastras perceives advantage of conceiving sons by heterosexual marriage, the Dharmsastras are against non-vaginal sex like the Vashistha Dharmasutra. The Yājñavalkya Smṛti prescribes fines for such acts including those with other men.[14][15]
>>18579495>There are very few places where people live where wheeled vehicles are unfeasibleThere clearly are many such places considering roads are necessary for large scale travel and transportation >You need roads for more than incidental foot and hoof traffic tooYes, retard. Good job pointing that out>The overwhelming majority of peoples that knew about wheels used them to transport goods long distance If you can't muster up the barest sliver of honesty, why bother replying?
>>18579351>First of all, these animals were substantially more expensive, both to purchase and maintain, than a cartYet they were more common than wheeled vehicles before the industrial revolution>And second, their efficiency is increased by the wheel tooNot really you need a very good roads which are expensive to make and maintain, in regions that have rainy seasons this was impractical.>In every context where coupling animal power with a wheeled vehicle was feasible, it was doneAs I already said above that was not the case even in pre industrial Europe.>A stagecoach is a vehicle for transporting sedentary passengers and their luggage over decently long distances.I'm talking about the transportation of both goods and people.As I said before the best mean of transport was by water.
>>18579507Confucianism, Buddhism, Zoroastrian all came to the same conclusion about butt pirates.
>disagrees with itself in a single post>random non-sequitur misquoteWho the fuck is sending a bot to shill against wheels?
>>18579442What are you replying to a bait post?
>>18579498You're denying Trump is the most pro-Israel president of our lifetime? As American jets bomb Iran for no reason other than Bibi asked for it right now?>>18579504>Is it just handing him total power to wage war on behalf of Israel even as they laugh in American faces and say they won't put their own men in danger Send more blonde haired blue eyed white girls to the island for the Jews to rape, torture and eat. Those are the kind they like best.
>>18579524>Yet they were more common than wheeled vehicles before the industrial revolutionBecause the primary use of their horses was not in transporting goods.>you need a very good roadsDid American wagon trains going out west have "very good roads"? You're also only talking about long distance riding vehicles. The utility of a handcart/wheelbarrow is not dependant upon the availability of roads.>that was not the case even in pre industrial EuropeYes it was. What are you talking about? Everyone in Eurasia made extensive use of animal drawn, wheeled vehicles whenever they could. The animal part was the limiting factor more often than the wheel part, in which case human power was used instead.>the best mean of transport was by waterIt still is. But my car isn't useless because cargo ships exist.
>>18579548>Because the primary use of their horses was not in transporting goods.Stop pretending to be retarded. Everyone knows horses were extensively used as pack animals.>American wagon trainsOkay, so now you're talking about modern 19th century technology across plains, you should've been more honest. And yes, american settlers used pack animals quite a bit too, especially in regions with rough terrain>whenever they couldExactly, for pulling plows and on roads, which did not exist everywhere>more often than the wheel partDo you think you could reliably use wheels without roads? Think very carefuly before answering this question.
>>18579274Rare Epstein W
>>18579573He may have been a Jewish libtard, but he was still a Gamer.
>>18579513Did you not read what you just posted? This is disapproval of any and all non-procreative sex, even up to vaginal intercourse between a man and a menstruating woman. This is not the singling out of homosexuality for which jews and jews alone are responsible.>>18579527And this is even worse. Confucianism isn't a religion and Chinese filial piety could be satisfied simply by marrying and having children, which is consistent with the gayest societies that have ever existed. Zoroastrianism was originally ambivalent with nothing more than a condemnation against being a whore like can be found even from Greek boy fuckers. Then they interacted with jews and started quoting leviticus. And Buddhism treats all sexual pleasure of any kind as an equal impediment to enlightment and Buddhist monks were some of the gayest people in history.
>>18579540Rhetoric aside, you really are saying that "doing his bidding" just means voting for him?
>>18579596Yes, which is implicitly disapproving of all gay sex.Here's another onehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoroastrianism_and_homosexuality
>>18579548>Because the primary use of their horses was not in transporting goods.No>You're also only talking about long distance riding vehicles. That's the point of the discussion anon>The utility of a handcart/wheelbarrow is not dependant upon the availability of roads.Actually it is, if the terrain is too muddy or rocky you are better off just carrying something on your head.>What are you talking about? W.T. Jackman The Development of Transportation in Modern England 2nd edition pp 141: "Long trains of these faithful animals, furnished with a great variety of equipment … wended their way along the narrow roads of the time, and provided the chief means by which the exchange of commodities could be carried on’."This a description of the transport system in 18th century EnglandIn Spain during the same period pack of animals were also more used Source: David R. Ringrose "Transportation and Economic Stagnation in Eighteenth-Century Castile" pp 51-79Even in Japan a European traveller commented that "Everything is transported from and into the interior by horses and bullocks."Source: Richard W. Bulliet "The wheel: inventions and reinventions" pp 43-48>It still isDepends on where and how far you want to travel
>>18579570>Stop pretending to be retarded.I'm not the one trying to pretend that wheels were useless and unused by people on the Eurasian steppe just because animal herding isn't done from a wheeled cart.>Okay, so now you're talking about modern 19th century technology across plainsI'm talking about all of history everwhere, you retarded nigger. It's called an example. Here's another. The spoked wheel and the chariot were invented in the very place you think wheels were useless with zero roads around.>for pulling plows and on roads, which did not exist everywhere>Do you think you could reliably use wheels without roads?How have you never even heard of a wheelbarrow? If only you had thought carefully about any of the retarded shit you've said.
>>18579600>That's the point of the discussion anonNo it isn't. No fucking wonder those few cultures never used wheels. We've got niggers like you who live in a society where wheels are extensively used for things other than long distance riding vehicles all around you and yet you somehow just refuse to acknowledge it.>if the terrain is too muddy or rocky you are better off just carrying something on your headI'm from the south where it can rain for weeks at a time. If it is somehow too muddy for a wheelbarrow, you're going to break your ankles trying to trudge through it. And if it's too rocky for one, then what are you growing?>furnished with a great variety of equipment
>>18579600>In Spain during the same period pack of animals were also more used>Source: David R. Ringrose "Transportation and Economic Stagnation in Eighteenth-Century Castile" pp 51-79>Even in Japan a European traveller commented that "Everything is transported from and into the interior by horses and bullocks.">Source: Richard W. Bulliet "The wheel: inventions and reinventions" pp 43-48do you have those books in front of you or something? or did pirate them? or are you just copypasting from somewhere else
>>18579506Why is Japan able to rebuild in just a few years after a tsunami + nuclear reactor meltdown, yet nigs can't rebuild after half a century when whitey leaves, even if he "sabotaged the railways"? Even nuclear bombs and nuclear reactor meltdowns can't stop the japs, yet nigs get stopped by... literally just whitey leaving? Make that make sense, anon.
>>18579621>We've got niggers like you who live in a society where wheelsWe are talking of pre industrial societies before the implementation of the steam engine.>I'm from the south where it can rain for weeks at a timeNot a tropical humid region but whateverI'm from the south where it can rain for weeks at a time. If it is somehow too muddy for a wheelbarrow>And if it's too rocky for one, then what are you growing?You (assuming you are that anon) said that the terrain isn't relevant for the handcart and the wheelbarrow, when in reality it is.
>>18579596>okay every single religion eventually elucidated that faggots are a social cancer>but the founders didn’t spell out every single way you can be a faggot and why that’s bad!As I originally said, every single religion that exists for 400+ years, eventually comes to the exact same conclusion about fudgepackers.
>>18579624>do you have those books in front of you or something? or did pirate them?You can read Ringros article on JSTOR and the books are on Scribd, dokumen and internet archive
>>18579639>We are talking of pre industrial societies before the implementation of the steam engine.Where what I just said still applies.>Not a tropical humid regionlmao.>said that the terrain isn't relevant for the handcart and the wheelbarrowNo one has said that. Someone acted like wheels could only be used with roads and I brought up wheelbarrows and handcarts as the obvious counterexample to that.
>>18579646Yeah but how did you come up with the citations?
>>18579638Because Japan wasn't suffering under the legacy of colonialism and white supremacy?
>>18579641>these people had an unenforceable disapproval of all sex>these people had unenforceable disapproval of all non-procreative sex, including heterosexual>and I'm conspicuously refusing to acknowledge all the religions that had no problem with homosexuality>and that's why jews are gays' saviors>for convincing every society they interacted with to go from acceptance or ambivalence to killing homosexuals
>Where what I just said still applies.Sources say otherwise. I don't know why you want to die on this hill >Someone acted like wheels could only be used with roads and I brought up wheelbarrows and handcarts as the obvious counterexample to that.In the context of long distance transport that "someone" was right. Animal packs were preferred over wheeled vehicles for a reason (many actually)>>18579654>Yeah but how did you come up with the citations?I read books and articles then I use an arcane magic spell called "copy paste"
>>18579673>I read books and articles then I use an arcane magic spell called "copy paste"So when you were composing your post you were genuinely consulting pages 43-48 from The Wheel: Inventions and Reinventions? Or are you just copypasting shit from >https://www.africanhistoryextra.com/p/acemoglu-in-kongo-a-critique-of-why or some chatbot? Why are you citing five pages for a 12-word quote?
>>18579655It was though? Whitey literally rolled up and blew their shit up and demanded that they trade with them. And this was the 2nd major event - beforehand, Whitey had essentially colonized Kyushu. China was also BTFO and divvied up by Whitey, then jappy, and they don't have these problems either. In fact, in some respects they are now doing even better than some White countries. So what gives?
>>18579669Well, no, because glisten, GSA clubs, the Human Rights Campaign, all of thee movements were dominated by Jews. Sociopathic faggots truly are disgusting - in fact, Jewish involvement in the anal marriage farce is the origin of my own antisemitism.
>>18579673>Sources say otherwise.Really? What source says handcarts and wheelbarrows were never used before the steam engine?>I don't know why you want to die on this hill That's a better question for you? What compels you to try and argue that not even Eurasian peoples used the wheel?>In the context...That wasn't the context. And you're still wrong even in trying to make it that.
this guy's video about the death toll of the Mongol Conquests is so fucking retarded that it turned me off of ever watching himusing the civilian casualty rate of the American Civil War and World War 1 (two wars in which there was famously very little targeting of civilians and most of the fighting was meat grinder field engagements) to derive the civilian casualty rate of the Mongols' wars (in which several of the world's largest and richest cities were sacked so hard they literally never recovered) is such obvious cherry picking that it's literally just lying
>>185796781 You can read the books on internet archive and dokumen2 Even if I did take it from the article what's your point? You are clutching at straws >some chatbot? Why are you citing five pages for a 12-word quote?What changes if I post the full quote? Seriously tell me I'm curious Also the only that would ever use Chatgpt or whatever here is you >>18579683>Really? What source says handcarts and wheelbarrows were never used before the steam engine?Why are you being so intentionally dense?You know very well that the discussion was about the efficiency of wheeled vehicles for long distance transportation that was obvious since the beginning.>What compels you to try and argue that not even Eurasian peoples used the wheel?When did I say that? I said that wheeled vehicles weren't very widespread in Europe and that people prefered using animal packs for transporting commodities before the industrial revolution.>That wasn't the contextThere was, I made the first saying that transportation by water was better if anything you are the one that started shifting the subject to wheelbarrows and handcraft.So yeah that anon was correct and the only one wrong here is you
>>18579703>You know very well that the discussion was aboutthe minority of cultures that made little to no use of the wheel. You trying to make it exclusively about long distance travel because you think you have a stronger argument there (you don't) doesn't change that.>I said that wheeled vehicles weren't very widespread in EuropeAnd that's fucking retarded.>saying that transportation by water was betterAnd you have still yet to address what good that's supposed to do for the people that need to get shit to the point on the river where they can load it on to a ship.
>>18579703>2 Even if I did take it from the article what's your point? You are clutching at strawsI'm not the anon you were "debating" with, I just popped in because performative citations are a pet peeve of mine. It's a way to track to where you got your information, not a magical sigil that makes your argument more valid. Next time you're copypasting shit from africanhistoryextra.com, cite africanhistoryextra.com
>>18579717>the minority of cultures that made little to no use of the wheelIn your little meltdown earlier you said it that they didn't used it (which is false)>You trying to make it exclusively about long distance travel because you think you have a stronger argument thereWhat else should I make it about? The pointbl of discussion isn't why Africans didn't have the wheel, they very much did, but why they never used for long distance transport.>And that's fucking retardedElaborate because the are multiple sources. >And you have still yet to address what good that's supposed to do for the people that need to get shit to the point on the river Animal packs obviously
>>18577991by an ad my dude, nobody on pol has ever heard of or posted about this guy
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>>18579681>worships jews>offers up his soul to them>allows them to dictate morality to him>"but I totally hate jews"And that's assuming you really are a chrtistian. Which, given the "oy vey, don't you know you owe jews for everything?" shit you started with, I seriously doubt.As for modern jews' alleged support for homosexuality, it is nothing but damage control and subversion. If the person who banned you from eating meat all of a sudden handed you a hamburger, you should question what's in it.As previously stated, judaism, of which christianity is a branch, is the sole reason and justification for the criminalization of homosexuality. So when Gentiles finally started reading the torah and consequently abandoning the religion, that justification vanished. To replace it (among other goals) jews pathologized human sexuality into discrete, immutable identities. This allowed them to maintain the myth that homosexual behavior is the exclusive realm of a tiny minority of deviants and continue suppressing the biological reality of near ubiquitous situational bisexuality. A reality they hate because it weakens the influence of one of their favorite weapons; women.
>>18579728>I just popped in because performative citations The only one being performative here is you, you thought you had a gotcha so you replied to me making baseless accusations. The only thing I got from Isaac Samuel was the source he used Hopkins "An economic history of West Africa" from that I found the other sources. Unlike you I'm not so lazy that I would use Chatgpt to find sources>Next time you're copypasting shit from africanhistoryextra.com, cite africanhistoryextra.comFirst of all why?Secondly where does that article mention Jackman and Ringrose?
>>18579746> So when Gentiles finally started reading the torah and consequently abandoning the religion,If you think people read the Torah today more than 100 years ago, you are beyond delusional. Which I suppose I already knew, since you think the anus is a reproductive organ.
>>18579751>First of all why?because THAT's where you got your information from. You didn't read shit.>where does that article mention Jackman and RingroseThey mention Jackson and Bulliet in their citations ya lunatic, the exact same page numbers as you. Ctrl+F it. Pretty weird fuckin coincidence. It doesn't mention the Ringrose citation, idk where you got it from but it certainly wasn't An Economic History of West Africa which never mentions him. Most likely answer is you're just copypasting Google AI or some other chatbot.
>>18579773>They mention Jackson and BullietWho?>doesn't mention the Ringrose citation, idk where you got it from but it certainly wasn't An Economic History of West Africa which never mentions him.https://it.scribd.com/document/851513742/An-Economic-History-of-West-Africa-by-A-G-Hopkins#page=136Page 121 and 122.You are a liar and also kinda dumb
>>18579735>In your little meltdown earlier you said it that they didn't used it (which is false)I have no idea what you're talking about.>why Africans didn't have the wheel, they very much didSome Africans used wheels just like everyone else. Some had them but only used them minimally for things like pottery wheels and not even any sort of man powered cart, while others didn't have wheels at all. If the latter two groups were using wheelbarrows, no one would say shit about them not using wheels just because they weren't using animal drawn wagons. The focus instead would be on animal domestication. Although they did domesticate animals well enough that I doubt such a combination of using wheelbarrows but not wagons would have happened anyway.>Animal packs obviouslyNo. Not obviously. With how expensive these animals were, and the fact that you have to feed them, and keep them somewhere, and they get sick and die, it wouldn't have been economical for many people needing to move things relatively short distances within a city to use them at all. But it doesn't take much weight needing to be moved for a cart to be economical. And someone bringing in large amounts of cargo that does require an animal is still financially incentivized to use a wagon so they can carry the most cargo per animal. If someone wasn't transporting enough cargo to need a wagon, but did still need to use an animal due to distance, then yes obviously they wouldn't drag a wagon around for no reason. But the idea that pack animals were this catch all solution that made wheeled vehicles pointless is retarded.
>>18579782>Jackson and BullietWho do you think I meant by Jackson dude>Page 121 and 122.Ah, point taken. I was looking at endnotes. If you got stuff from Hopkins, you should cite Hopkins. Don't pretend you read articles you didn't and don't include citations you never used to make your arguments look more impressive. It's tacky.
>>18579755Both the decline in the popularity of judaisim and the beginning of the rewriting of human sexuality go back more than a century. The former does predate the latter by a bit. But that's to be expected. The recapture of homosexuality for a secular world obviously had to be done with secular tools that could only emerge after judaism had begun to weaken.
>>18579814>okay sure the actual chronology is completely the opposite of what I said BUTThis is why these discussions are pointless. Whatever made you an invert, also made you completely incapable of honesty. You have never met a Jew, know nothing about them. You just think you are talking to “chuds” now, so if you make anti-Semitic sounds, they’re more likely to agree with you, no matter how retarded the fabrications are you cook up.
>>18577991This guy made me state seal flag pilled.
>>18579841>okay sure the actual chronology is completely the opposite of what I said BUTNot only did I not say this, what I said was so thoroughly not this that your attempt to lie about it would have been enough proof by itself that you are jewish even before you outright admitted it right after.And I must say, it is hilarious watching a creature that jacks itself off over its supposed intelligence completely misread the extremely obvious signs of what sort of person it is talking to. In the future, you should let your golems handle this. They're much better at it.
>>18579785>I have no idea what you're talking about.Aren't you the n word guy?>If the latter two groups were using wheelbarrows, no one would say shit about them not using wheels just because they weren't using animal drawn wagonsI already said in one of my post above that wheeletd vehicles were used in some parts of Africa.>With how expensive these animals were,Historical source mention high usage of animal packs, which were relatively cheap, and riverine transport, there isn't much to argue here.>And someone bringing in large amounts of cargo that does require an animal is still financially incentivized to use a wagon so they can carry the most cargo per animal. If someone wasn't transporting enough cargo to need a wagon, but did still need to use an animal due to distance, then yes obviously they wouldn't drag a wagon around for no reason. But the idea that pack animals were this catch all solution that made wheeled vehicles pointless is retarded.Those arguments are purely "theoretical". It wasn't rare to see someone in Europe ,even during the industrial revolution, carrying objects on top of their head like they still do in Africa or even more so in India.
>>18579877Based, same.
>>18579799Stop assuming you know what I did because you don't
>>18579888>Aren't you the n word guy?I don't think so?>wheeletd vehicles were used in some parts of Africa.I know. I'm not one of the people that thinks Africans were all retarded savages. I agree with the anon further up, maybe it was you, that ascribed the comparatively minimal wheel use to the lack of civilizational conditions that would necessitate it. Which could still be seen as a shortcoming on their part. But it's at least more complex of an issue than "they were retarded".>animal packs, which were relatively cheapNo. Anyone saying horses, oxen, or even donkeys were cheap is not a source I'd trust.>carrying objects on top of their headAnd? Are you going to make fifteen trips doing that every to and from your market stall or whatever instead of one or two with a handcart? No. Not if you can help it. But you're also not going to pay to keep a horse stabled for that, either.
>>18579883Your entire argument is Jews beguiled the world, even as places as far as India and China into thinking poop sex is gross and pederasts are bad news for any organization, and now Jews have spent the last 60 years securing outrageous privileges for sodomites…. as a trick. Here is the reality: the Christian position on boy botherers isn’t even derived from Leviticus. You could delete the entire book and buttfuckers would still be considered creatures of sin. Again, this irrelevent to you, because in your AIDS addled mind Christians are Jews, Jews themselves are some sort of mythological creature, and you hate Christians, but think it’s more persuasive when you call them Jews?
>>18579026My intro to the right began in 1994 with Rush Limbaugh. Get on my level. Now I drifted so far off course I'm practically a divine right guy.
>>18579115Funny my friend on Steam and I were talking about Armenians and we talked about how degenerate they are.
>>18579261U mad?
>>18579434You think but actually no.
>>18579890Okay, what did you do? Did you look up facts on African history, find
>>18579981>>18579890a citation to An Economic History of West Africa, read the book, read the footnotes on a page, track down the articles on JSTOR, read the articles, extract the most relevant bits of info and write it up in your post?
>>18579951That's not what I said and you already confessed to being a jew. Better luck next thread.Although I don't expect you'll do much better. Inexperience is not your only problem.
>>18579911>Anyone saying horses, oxen, or even donkeys were cheap is not a source I'd trust.I said relatively cheap, if it wasn't so they wouldn't have used animals to transport goods everywhere.>And? Are you going to make fifteen trips doing that every to and from your market stall or whatever instead of one or two with a handcart? NoHow much weight are we talking about here? Also I don't see how operating an animal to transport goods for a short distance be economically disadvantageous
>>18579981>>18579983>a citation to An Economic History of West Africa, read the book, read the footnotes on a page, track down the articles on JSTOR, read the articles, extract the most relevant bits of info and write it up in your postUsually that's what I would do but this time I only read what Hopkins wrote then looked at the sources and tried to find them online. I didn't cited Hopkins because I didn't mention any of the things he actually said but maybe I should have.The accusations of me using chatbots annoyed me that's all
>>18580010It was an unwarranted accusation. I still stand by my original annoyance -- people definitely throw citations into arguments as a way of making them seem extra scholarly and scientific instead of just indicating "here's where I learned this fact".
>>18579999>if it wasn't so they wouldn't have used animals to transport goods everywhereThe ships you've talked about being more efficient than overland travel were even more expensive. Obviously ships were used quite a lot. But also obviously not everyone had one.>How much weight are we talking about here? Really depends on how frequently and how far you're carrying things. >Also I don't see how operating an animal to transport goods for a short distance be economically disadvantageousHow do you not see that? The animals themselves were expensive. And they are an expiring investment. Someone who didn't absolutely need one would be throwing money away buying one. And that's without even considering stabling and feeding them. Less of an issue for say a farmer hauling things into town. But for someone hauling things from one point to another within a city, that's an appreciable expense that, again, necessitates that you are making very good use of the animal to be worth it. If you could do it with a human powered cart instead, you would.
>>18578893Adopting new technologies is a mark of a developed/advanced society wtf are you even saying.
>>18579570>Do you think you could reliably use wheels without roads?Yea? That's where wheels were used most of the time. Entire societies in Late Antiquity moved by the wagon without roads.
>>18578907>the libs started the culture warConservatives started the Culture War with the "Red Scare" back in the 20s while killing legit leftist movements in the country.
>>18580487Then why not say Lenin started the culture war? Or Marx?
>>18580487>Red scare>20sThe history board everyone!
>>18580491https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Red_Scare
