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If you think atheism is an issue of the heart rather than an intellectual issue, why do you try to convert atheists using philosophical arguments?
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>>18578035
Great own, except I don't try to convert atheists using philosophical arguments. Untrue premise => Unsound argument, which means you lost. Enjoy Hell.
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>>18578040
I'm obviously not talking about you, hellschizo. You've too dim to do philosophy.
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>>18578035
I don't try converting atheists. I enjoy the fact that they will suffer unimaginable torment forever, while I can enjoy eternal bliss with God.
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>>18578048
>insulting the elect
Those flames just got hotter. Enjoy talking to brown Catholics, in the meantime. What a great way to spend your last precious time before eternal torture.
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>>18578052
I feel so sorry for you with such and evil and cruel heart thinking the Rigtheous God lover of innocence will save you.
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>>18578057
I don't think he will save me. I know he already has. Also, you're not innocent. Better get save! Otherwise? Have fun burning.
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>>18578035
William Lane Craig himself has answered this question. According to him, he is only trying to give people intellectual “permission” to believe, not trying to convince them it is true.
The fact is that Christianity is an extremely bizarre religion because its metaphysics is based on “faith”, a subjective internal state, not on anything that actually happens or that you actually do. And what’s worse is that humans can’t even give themselves “faith”, only by the grace of God can they get it. So if I don’t believe in God, they have to constantly cope about how I am somehow intentionally rejecting god’s grace. At least Calvinists have the balls to say that God simply withholds grace from some people.
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god believer here. not a Christian but I believe protties believe in the real true god asha. asha means truth in Avestan, is the principle of reality. you can have a heart open to gd, once you are told he exists you immediately believe or need further explanation and then believe. atheists are not ready to believe, but you can soften their hearts through divinely inspired speech and actions.
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>>18578035
You seem to be stuck in 2016, religious arguments are passé, no one cares anymore grandpa. Go watch theamazingatheist compilations on youtube or something if you want to relieve the old times
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>>18578087
best time to be an atheist is now
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>>18578087
that guy is a pagan esoteric nazi now lol
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>>18578099
Yeah but the time to be a debatelord euphoric redditor was from the bush-obama period up to the 2016 election. There's also a reason why creationism vs evolution debates have completely faded away from the public consciousness into obscurity. Nobody cares anymore. I'm not saying atheism won or lost, just that this is cringe shit from when people made videos "debunking" Bill O'Reilly, another name nobody remembers or cares about anymore. You are stuck in a time bubble. Grow up
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>>18578035
well for starters, atheists assume they're operating on reason so we try to meet them halfway but in all seriousness belief and unbelief alike are sentimental.
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>>18578128
you are the one stuck in 2016 dude. A person cannot even ask a question about christian apologetics without you immediately screaming muh reddit and muh euphoria.
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>>18578139
>A question
You are here 24/7 making the same threads over and over again
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>>18578155
I am not even OP. And I don't see why we should kvetch about atheists making too many threads when the entire board is polluted with schizophrenics who view the world through the lens of events that objectively, historically speaking did not happen.
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>>18578035
Good question
I think secular materialism and rationalism has won the hearts of modern atheists as a response to protestants bad theology, so in order to reunite them with Christ their concerns must be reconciled before they are ready to return
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>>18578099
Atheism is meaningless when the question is "What do you think about the nature of reality and your place within it? It's like saying "not fish" in response to the question "what do you like to eat?"

Most atheists are metaphysical materialists, which is an outdated Enlightenment-era paradigm that much descended from Cartesian Dualism. The modern sciences have completely outgrown the mechanistic models of Newtonian science.

Process philosophy / relational ontology is the new hotness; the sciences collectively imply that the nature of reality is dynamic and interconnected. The big-picture view of the universe derived from this is the universe as a creative process comprised of creative processes, where creativity is an omnipresent fact of reality with time itself as the creative advance of the universe. All entities regardless of ontological status are co-creators who mutually contributed to the unfolding creative process of reality.

"We are a way for The Cosmos to know itself" thus becomes "We are a way for The Cosmos to create with itself," But as "The Cosmos" is merely short for "all of us" this translates to "We are a way to create with each other."

"Everything is a co-creator, conscious or not, living or not, real or imaginary" is a radically different vibe from atheistic mechanistic materialism. It's very similar to animism without subscribing conscious entity to all things. It embraces the reality and value of the aconscious phenomenon which constitute the overwhelming majority of the universe.
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>>18578035
Atheists pretend it to be an intellectual issue, and make arguments against the truth. Therefore, our duty is to dispel their delusions and show them they are without excuse, so that they will recognize their deep need for the gospel.
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>>18578128
Atheism won
Christians lost
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>>18578201
Atheistic materialists lost.
Atheistic processists won.
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>>18578201
sorry but this story aint over
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>>18578201
God showed us the back of the book and it says we win. Sorry
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>>18578227
Innovation that Luther was going to take out but he was afraid of the curse of Revelation 22:18-19 lmao
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>>18578242
It’s the word of God anon. Luther has no reason to fear the curse unless it’s from God btw
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>>18578035


NOT ONE, OR THE OTHER, BUT BOTH.

YOUR QUESTION IS BASED ON A FALLACIOUS PREMISE.
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>>18578227
The bible is not the word of God and you lost. He didn't rise and he ain't coming back lil bro



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