Adam was, by the GRACE of God, granted to live in Paradise whilst in a state of innocence (knowing neither good nor evil). Neither was he baptized nor had any such other rite performed on him. Only when he gained the knowledge of good and evil did sin enter in, and corrupt him. Thus we see that it is so with infants also. They, having living souls, and being in the image of God, by the grace of God, would, if they untimely perished, be granted Paradise the same as Adam.>inb4 God imputes guilt on the innocent^THAT is the only counterargument. To accuse God of imputing guilt on the innocent. Every man dies, and is judged, for his OWN sins. Certainly a father's sins AFFECT the son, even unto many, many generations (and we live in the world resultant of Adam's sin), but guilt for the crime is not imputed on the son.
>>18578474The story of Adam and Eve exists purely to explain to ancient Jewish children why humans need to wear clothes and have social norms while animal don't. That's literally it.>"mommy, why can animals run around naked and shit everywhere but we can't?">"well you see little timmy, it all starts with Adam and Eve..."
>>18578491Yeah yeah okay whatever but I'm talking to the CatholiX and OrthoLARPs here. You can enjoy your, uh, hormones like dopamine I guess. Nothing else for people like you to do in this world.
>>18578500This is also the standard teaching of most confessional Protestant denominations. Only the Orthodox teach that we are not guilty of Adam's sin, and, even then, their teaching is uneven.
Infants are young and immature but still who they are meant to be.Only animals besides humans seem to be actually innocent.
>>18578474Man cannot punish someone for the sins of their fathers in their courts of law. But God certainly can and does, he says so right there in the second commandment: He punishes 3 or 4 generations of those who hate him but lavishes with love even 1000 generations of those who love him and keep his comandments.
>>185788221. Did Adam hate God?2. Are we 3-4 generations or fewer removed from Adam?3. You do not understand the meaning of "visiting iniquity on" someone
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>>18578963When you disobey God and sin is as if you had despised his word and his word is him. So sinning is despising God. When David sinned God asked him why did he despise his word.Adam was held to a higher standard because he knew God personally, was extremely blessed and had the entire world given to him. So he had a great responsibility to obey him.God is not punishing us for the sin of Adam, Adam simply lost his incorruptibility so the rest of us who came from him were born without it. Tell me the meaning of it if I don't know it.
>>18579008>Adam was held to a higher standard because he knew God personally, was extremely blessed and had the entire world given to him. So he had a great responsibility to obey him.Eisegesis. Does not support the thesis that infants inherit guilt for Adam's specific sin.>God is not punishing us for the sin of Adam, Adam simply lost his incorruptibility so the rest of us who came from him were born without it. Okay so you agree with me?
>>18578772Even pitbulls?
>>18579146We are not punished for Adam. But will certainly punish your children for your evil. That is why in many biblical prayers they pray God to forgive their sins and the sins of their ancestors. And Jesus told pharisees that the punishment for the blood of all the prophets will fall on that generation.
>>18578474>accuse God of imputing guilt on the innocentaccording to your conspiracy theory, god told adam not eat fruit from the tree of knowledge to keep adam and eve dumb, so they were not smart enough to understand what they were allowed to do and not do, so of course they did something dumb. they were set up. but its just a story like santa clause. now give money to the church or burn in hell.
>>18579391I do not and have never believed that one must give money to a church to be saved. Salvation is by faith, apart from works. But if I did believe that, then that would make me rather foolish, as you say. >they were set upGood thing salvation is as easy as admitting you are a sinner. Perhaps if Adam and Eve had to go through a 100-step program to repent you would have a point, but salvation is as easy as admitting your guilt, believing that God is he who justifies, and accepting that justification. We see in The Gospel of Luke that Adam is called a “son of God.” So we see that Adam was justified and forgiven of sin.
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