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>spend years and years getting told that modern-day Germans hate and despise their soldiers who fought in (especially but not exclusively) the 2nd world war, that those men never got any respect after the war and were spat upon
>actually travel through Germany one day
>the country is unironically filled with hundreds of monuments to their soldiers, every little village and town you pass through has AT LEAST one of these, ranging from small crosses to big, monumental statues of Wehrmacht soldiers

Ok so something really doesn't add up here. I was unironically baffled. Everywhere you go, there's these soldier monuments
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>>18579309
In a small town in the eastern Rhineland, one of these even had a small line added that commemorated some guys who fought against the Herero in Namibia in 1905. You know, the war that is widely seen as a genocide.

Is this a giant cover-up? Germans aren't ashamed of their past at all it seems. This is huge
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There's monuments specifically commemorating Waffen-SS soldiers. Who the fuck started all this "Germans feel bad for having been nazis and starting world wars" rumor nonsense?
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It's just americans being mad that germans dont worship Hitler

There's nothing deeper to it
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Morality only matters to the 10% or so naturally elevated people able to have afeel for what matters and what doesn't. All the propaganda effort by regimes of the moment is always aimed at these. 90% of people are and have always been sheep happy to follow the lead of their betters and not think too hard about where the herd is going. In fact to them ignorance is often bliss. The conclusion is Propaganda should be aimed at converting as many as possible of the 10% that matter enough to set trends the rest will follow.
https://patrickwyman.substack.com/p/ordinary-people-do-terrible-things
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>>18579309
Rural Germans have always been super insular and chuddy. It's a byproduct of the HRE where every local community was its own little microstate that honors its soldiers.
The German government has to performatively apologize for WW2 or it will get boycotted by Poland and Israel. But that doesn't mean all Germans have a strong guilt complex. I think Brits and Americans just assume that's the case because they're bombarded by Holocaust propaganda 24/7
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>>18579318
mostly 80iq amerimutts projecting things, former nazis had high position of power in NATO and West Germany till 1970, don't take everything you read on /pol/ or twitter seriously
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>>18579311
>Is this a giant cover-up? Germans aren't ashamed of their past at all it seems. This is huge
It's more so the case that nobody really gives a shit. There are at best a few anual sermons that are held for the victims of war and that's it.
>>18579318
That one example is interesting. In 1971 a private association of veterans of the Leibstandarte SS „Adolf Hitler“ leased a plot from a municipal cemetary for 30 years. The association then built this one monument and held memorial festivities there. Originally it was intended for the veterans, their families and their descendants but already in the late 1970s it was noted that unrelated Neo-Nazis showed up. Then a cycle of demonstrations and counter-demonstrations began. In 2001 the lease ended and the municipality didn't renw it - but it ruled that it would tolerate the monument indefinitely if the association would create a 3000€ safety deposit to pay for the potential removal. The association didn't create this deposit and in April 2004 the municipality and the association agreed that the monument would be removed. However in late April 2004 the monument was largely destroyed by unknown perpetrators. Already in late 2003 the NPD and associates demonstrated for the preservation and reconstruction of the monument. In 2006 the association and Thorsten Heise (member of the party board of the NPD) agreed that the monument would be loosely reconstructed on the private property of Heise in Thuringia. And now it stands there.



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