>If a perfectly moral man entered this world, he would be humiliated and impaled'Plato said that 400 years before Christ. How did he know?
It will forever pain me that these two never met. What a fascinating conversation that would have been
>>18579365What a cringe comment>Yooo dude imagine if Jesus and this random greek dude you can confuse with the other mass produced copypaste greek thinkers had a conversation!!! I would pay 1million dollars to be their waiter!!!
>>18579346 he was talking about socrates dumbass
>>18579378>Random Greek guy>A literal founding father of western civilization >Some fat retard on /his/ wants to pop off about it He was the greatest philosopher who ever lived, One of the smartest humans ever. Get the fuck out nigger
>>18579397>He was the greatest philosopher who ever livedthen why his ideas were utter shit ?
>>18579397>He was the greatest philosopher who ever lived>destroys Western civilization and spawns pr*testanism and ath*ism and hedonistic materialism
>>18579397Heraclitus absolutely claps Plato and it's not even close
>>18579609>>destroys Western civilization and spawns pr*testanism and ath*ism and hedonistic materialismBut enough about Anglo-Germanics.
Jesus wasnt hanged because he was moral, he was hanged because he claimed to be the messiah, king of the jews.The jews didnt like his political movement and wacked him.
>>18579346If a perfectly moral man entered this world, why not 10? Or a whole army of moral men? People find morality, and if bashed on the shore, it is by their bad luck, yet morality will still throw seeds into oblivion like a tree casts its seeds out into what it does not know. Not that a tree is entirely moral, because it competes for sunlight, but regardless, I don't speak of trees but of righteousness.
>>18579730Thats what you say.What pilate wrote he wrote.
>>18579378Plato is far more important than Christ.
>>18579753Why is important is righteousness, and as far as I know, that is why you compete.
>>18579346It's not profound to notice that good deeds never go unpunished by a tyrannical state. Tyrants hate moral actors as they let in a power above their petty materialistic rule of the world impact people's behavior. Jesus was far from the first to be martyr'd by the demons of secular power and was far from the last.
>>18579346I think that paraphrase does some damage to the original meaning in the thought experiment from picrel, where the perfectly just man is only crucified, etc. because otherwise it wouldn't be clear that he was pursuing justice for its own sake. So him being crucified is a prerequisite for him being perfectly just (to the eyes of the thought-experimenters), not the other way around.I don't think it makes that much sense even in its original context though, because, granted that the perfectly just man is supposed to be pursuing justice for its own sake, not for the sake of appearances, the collection of "appearances" should include his appearance to the thought-experimenters as well. So a perfectly just man should be able to be perfectly just whether or not he enjoys the benefits of appearing just to the people in his world *and* whether or not he suffers the misfortune required to appear perfectly just to an outside observer who weirdly directly knows everything but whether the man is perfectly just, which the observer can only infer.
>>18579757If good deeds are punished or not is irrelevant to if they are good deeds. If they go punished, it is at your discretion to mitigate those issues. But if you fear all good deeds you will become one of the tyrants yourself.
>>18579764If a person is entirely just without being crucified so be it. But if a man is crucified and regardless just, the crucifixion has no effect. Rather it is to say that righteousness does not require a ritual, lest the ritual itself is not righteous, yet if the ritual comes let those who are righteous overcome it. It is not a test, as those who perform it insist, but like a disease and undesirable entirely. Yet those who suffer it remembered for their trouble regardless.
There's also a neat precursor to Tolkien's stories in the same book.
