>>18581501
Because it always led to totalitarianism, mass corruption, and poverty.

Comunism garbage was always useless from the beginning, we are still stuck discussing these failed 20th century ideologies

>>18581501
Communism requires a command economy which leads to unchecked government overreach that leads to authoritarian regimes without checks and balances. The reason it's compared to fascism is because fascism also requires a command economy but for slightly different but nevertheless populist reasons.

Third-Worldism is spreading to an unprecedented extent, and even conservatives are beginning to embrace it.

>>18581530
Marxists' aggressive desire to destroy all native traditions, specifically in "first world" countries, has alot to do with that.

>>18581501
Stalin choosing to create the Warsaw pact and keep all those puppet states.The USSR was already severely outgunned by the West in industrial capacity and tax base, and trying to build up and prop up all its client states was a luxury it didnt need and couldnt afford. Stalin was stuck in an old paradigm of grabbing land under his control instead of staying lean and mean.

Had the USSR kept going alone as they successfully did before the war it would still be around today.

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>>18581740
>first world native traditions

>>18581814
>posts the literal result of Capitalism removing First world native traditions
Capitalism and Communism are both internationalist globalist ideologies.

>>18581808
Stalin should have annexed all the land directly and it would have been better off for it. The false showings of sovereignty is what made them such moneysinks. Also
>instead of staying lean and mean.
Impossible for the Soviet Union which was already a colonial empire from its birth.

MLM as in the "third worldism" meme ideology?
or Maoism as in Mao Zedong Thought?
China today is pretty much exactly what Mao was pivoting to after the Cultural Revolution. Deng himself didn't actually change any real policy course from late Mao. It was Mao for example who aligned with the US and brought in US capital.
Third Worldism itself is just vulgar anti-Marxist claptrap because what makes up most of the left is self-hating "anti-Imperialists" who care more about "Imperialism" than any serious Marxist framework for understanding material productive relations.

>>18581931
Pretty much all of /leftypol/ is third-worldist and they talk about how they want to nuke the USA and Europe all the time. Like it or not, Marxism has become a big tent for anti-white populism.

>>18581898
>>18581808
Biggest problem was largely time period and the fact they were mostly winging it without proper information inputs, it's far easier to look back now and see obvious issues, but not so much for the time period. People forget pre 1960s politicians even in the west basically viewed scientists and academics as nothing but loser dorks.
Plenty of mistakes the USSR made with hindsight.
>Nomenklatura system of nepotism and "merits", led to the same folly as Chinese imperial bureaucracy where there was more incentive to sabotage each other, rather than try work together and risk some unknowable that may fail.
>Not breaking up National state lines. USSR should have broken up the national borders into administrative boundaries based on more economic/efficiency factors rather than historical/ethnicity. If there is no Ukrainian or Russian SSR, how can there be a Ukraine or Russia? Soviet identity should have been paramount.
>Capital of USSR should have not been in Russia, it should have been a new administrative city in a new capital federal territory probably where the triborder of Belarus, Latvia and Lithuania is. Capital city also should have had districts done in the classic architectual style of each Soviet Republic. This shows the USSR is not just a Russian project.
>Didn't develop or adopt Mass Line form of policy testing and Public responsiveness that the Chinese did.
>Didn't ship Lysenko to America to wreck American agriculture instead.
>Didn't abolish death penalty immediately. No death penalty, even if purges occur, those who are purged can be rehabilitated. When 1938 rocked around and even Stalin realized the Purges were retarded hysteria, it was too late, he couldn't bring back the CPSU's best minds and was stuck with hick retards like Khrushchev.
>Allowing anything like the Secret Speech to happen.

>>18581934
Oh yeah I know, I've been banned from there more times than I can count for pointing out they actually don't have Marxist views, they just hate their boring suburban upbringing and blame it on "white people" while they fetishize "exotic" cultures.

Turns out killing the smart people is a bad idea. But not killing them ends up killing communism. I'm sure there's a lesson somewhere

>>18581934
lol that's funny considering Marx was a huge racist/Euro supremacist

>>18581931
>>18581934
they also consider Russians non-white and Russia the leader of the Third/non-white world

>>18581942
>>18580125
that also happened to Best Korea. Kim Il Sung killed off all his rivals in the KWP after the '56 coup attempt. there were some smart people who had good ideas and they were all shot or gulaged in favor of his peasant retard buddies so the place was condemned to forever be like Africa under Idi Amin.

>>18581893
The three worlds theory only exists because of capitalism.

>>18581957
Mao was at least smart enough to not have Zhou Enlai and Deng Xiaoping shot in the Cultural Revolution.

>>18582483
It exists through war propaganda spread by an alliance between a capitalist country and a communist one. Even if what you said were true, it would mean that Marxists got their third-world-centric social doctrine from the capitalists they claim to oppose. A bad look, typical of Marxism in general. None of that excuses Communists from their advocacy of globalism btw.

>>18582494
Communism only exists because of capitalism.

>>18581942
>back the CPSU's best minds and was stuck with hick retards like Khrushchev

Khrushchev hid his power level the whole time. He was assumed by Stalin to just be a 70 IQ peasant bumblefuck with no ambitions of his own, so even his colleagues were surprised when he outmaneuvered them in the post-Stalin era.

>>18581501
Literally the totalitarianism of it. It stifled innovation and creativity. If there was no rampant totalitarianism the USSR would have invented the internet first and the USA would have balkanized in the 90s.

>>18581814
you guys hate milk and cookies even?

>>18582914
>>18581501
On this note, I'd say that the militant atheism aspect was also a crippling aspect of their ideology.

Bolshevik antitheism in Russia was somewhat justified (from their perspective) since the Orthodox Church was somewhat intertwined with the Tsar's regime (although a law separating church and state had been passed a few years earlier). Also, a large part of it was motivated by certain people like Trotsky who had loxist hatred of goyim and the fact that the Tsars/Patriarchs prevented jews from having full citizen ship rights; but I won't get into that too much - it's just funny how the Bolsheviks didn't oppress synagogues to the same extent in the early years as they did Orthodox churches, or how they destroyed every single Bhuddist temple in Mongolia. The trouble came when they tried to take militant anti-theism to the global stage. Already, they alienated the entire Islamic world and motivated the Taliban to overthrow them in Afghanistan decades later, not to mention the Chechens. Turkey joined NATO largely because of Soviet antitheism, whereas they might have been an ally against Israeli-Anglo imperialism otherwise. The Spanish Civil War might have gone in the Republicans' favor if not for them burning churches and killing nuns in a deeply Catholic country - Spain literally underwent a Catholic revival with more people officially joining the Church during the Civil War than were members beforehand; and of course Stalin was sending money, guns, and fighter planes to the leftoids. They also just alienated tons of working class people worldwide since the majority of them are religious, whereas atheism is more of a middle/uppler-class rootless cosmopolitan phenomenon. The Bolsheviks also just did stupid Orwellian shit like literally outlawing Christmas, and sending the NKVD around to people's houses to make sure they didn't have Christmas trees.

>>18583020
also stopped reading there, /pol/. Jews were very persecuted in the Soviet era, synagogues shut down and all Jewish culture essentially banned--the Jewish religion, Hebrew language, circumcision, etc.

>>18583024
That was mostly after Stalin's purge of Trotskyists. During Lenin's time, they had unprecedented freedoms.

>>18581530
Whats the difference between their worldism and regular nationalism? Like if Mexico or Nigeria (both non communist) decide they want to expand their own interests against everyone else's. Why isn't that just "aggressive nationalism" but instead some form of Marxism?

>>18583034
Marxists justify it by saying they wuz oppressed by white countries at some point. White countries are portrayed as the "core of bourgeoise" and even white working-class people are called "labor aristocracy". Basically, white countries rejected communism so now Marxists have stopped trying to appeal to whites altogether, and they're trying to sell it to all the nons of the world as a means to get revenge on whitey.

>>18583020
>The Bolsheviks also just did stupid Orwellian shit like literally outlawing Christmas, and sending the NKVD around to people's houses to make sure they didn't have Christmas trees.
It’s dramatic and it’s painful, but how else would you create a new Soviet man unburdened by old, bourgeois culture?

>>18583129
The culture war shit is irrelevant, they should just have focused on improving living standards. If the Orthodox Church was such a threat, they should have encouraged something like a neo-Protestant reformation where people had communal churches with people being able to lead services as a group like Quakers do. Instead they tried to outlaw all religion because the Bolshevik politburo was all Jews and rootless middle-class philosophy nerds.

>>18581501
It didn’t fail. Maoist insurgencies are practically the last ones still alive from the communist movements and have been the only successful ones post-1990s with Nepal.

>>18581530
>>18583047
Maoism isn’t third-worldism, it’s a more «loose» interpretation of dialectical materialism. Basically the original synthesis of marxism done by the bolsheviks was very rigid : contradictions were located between the productive forces and their organization, and communism as a result of those contradictions came from the proles being guided by the vanguard.
Maoism on the other hand kept the idea of a vanguard party but was much more loose on the idea of contradictions. These were reduced to simply «opposing forces» and therefore didn’t imply that the proletariat had to be a privileged force. Instead, the Party was expected to side with the masses, which meant that they could ally with the bourgeoisie if it helped the masses for instance

Also one thing to note is that maoism isn’t really an ideology made by Mao himself. It was constructed after his death by westerners and schizos in Peru who wanted a looser interpretation that could allow for better «democratization» whilst simultaneously retaining the element of the vanguard party which appealed to so many petit-intellectuals. Most of what Mao wrote was daoist stuff modernized through marxist lens or propaganda that he didn’t care about. The whole «antagonist/non antagonist contradictions within the people» was invented to justify the early constitution in China to give the State arbitrary power to decide on who was an «enemy» of the people. Similarly the back to the farms movement wasn’t done out of ideological purity but simply because there were too many urban residents at some point. And that’s without even touching on the cultural revolution stuff. Mao was more of a narodnik populist than a bolshevik

>>18581944
>>18581934
No they’re more edgy national-leftists than third worldists. They’re closer to Xi than to whatever black figure people worship these days