If Buddhism is about letting go, then why do they attach themselves to a label like religion?
Buddhism is a godless religion, like marxism.Thus they can see some of the light but their optic is blurry and their path goes wayward like an animal without guide. The ones who follow God and have his word tied around their neck and his name on his arm are like ants, who know what to do without anyone being on top of them telling them what to do, for God himself told them. Whoever puts his faith in men will be like a blind man following a blind man, whoever puts his faith in God and lets him direct his life is like a sun that illuminates and brings daylight wherever he goes.
>>18582038>if these retards claim some things dont matter then why dont they believe all things dont matter?!?!?
>>18582038For guidance. The goal of Buddhism isn't total nihilism.
>>18582038Because they are retards who follow a jeet religion
>>18582038Buddhism is a temporary attachment that allows one to let go of other attachments, like using a thorn to pry another thorn out of your skin. Once you've dislodged the thorn in your skin you throw away the other thorn you used to pry it out.
>>18582054Lol? Buddhists live in monasteries their whole life, without influencing the world in any way. Thats like being given the key of the jail that locks up the whole world and saying "nah, they did something so they need to learn their lesson" even though you know the whole system is wrong and theres nothing to learn from it.
>>18582055Sorry Retard, I didn't realize metaphors were beyond you; I'll say it again in plain English. By attaching yourself to Buddhist practices you can let go of all other attachments but once you let go of all those other attachments you're supposed to also let go of attachment to Buddhism itself.
>>18582067You've just repeated the same words over again with new transitional words in between as though what you wrote would gain meaning lolTry again once you've proofread your ChatGPT-ass response
>>18582069It seemed Retard didn't understand my first post and I thought it might be the thorn metaphor tripping him up. So yes, I restated to him what I already said but without the metaphor.
>>18582076Youre a dumbass Show a buddhist that "graduated" Buddhism or became a boddhisava. 0. The only buddhist who goes around the world is the dalai lama and hes a CIA puppet who gives you the equivalent of pauls "slaves, obey your masters" by telling you "hey, dont worry about their iniquity. This is all an illusion, you just have to not desire anything! (And leave it all to the 1% who charges you rent to have a place to lay your head as if theyre owners of the world)"Retard, thrice stupid
>>18582038How fucking retarded are you? The concept of modern religion is modeled after protestantism and theyre only called the 'religions of thebworld' now because they survived thenchristkek tke over. It's a nonsense category
There are no two English dictionaries that will give you a consistent definition of religion either.
>>18582038The label is expedient for identification of Buddhist beliefs and practices>>18582055>Buddhists live in monasteries their whole life, without influencing the world in any way.Only Buddhist monks and certain monastics (lay renunciates) live in monasteries.Also monks tend to vary when it comes to political involvement, with some monks playing proactive political/activist roles while others see politics as worldly.In Mainland Southeast Asia they have governmental institutions regulating how the sangha acts, who gets to be ordained, and who becomes sangharaja (leader of a monk order)Buddhism isn't a monolith, and what we think we know about Buddhism can either be wrong or only true in certain contexts.
>>18582080Show me what proving bodhisattvas exist and Buddhists going around the world has to do with this thread. OP asked why do Buddhists attach themselves to a religion when they're supposed to be unattached and I answered.
>>18582094>Also monks tend to vary when it comes to political involvementI mean, yeah. I've talked about how theravada monks are practically a caste and even eat meat. Are you surprised that someone who doesnt follow the most basic tenant participates in politics? Lol >>18582096Shut the fuck up, dumbass. You proved yourself stupid, stop trying to pretend otherwise and just slip away like you always do.
>>18582096You follow a practice if it works. Since there are no bodhisattvas we can say the whole spiel you explained is useless, meaning buddhists are retards
>>18582100>and just slip away like you always doI don't think we've ever argued before unless you're only a part time namefag.>>18582102Regardless of if it works or not, that's the reasoning behind it.
>>18582100>I've talked about how theravada monks are practically a caste and even eat meat.They're not a caste. The closest you have to casteist monks is one of the two monk orders in Sri Lanka (the Siam Nikaya), and even then, the other order (the Amarapura-Ramanna Nikaya) is open to all.Buddhist monks aren't religiously forbidden from eating meat either. They have to eat whatever they're given as part of their religious practice.>Are you surprised that someone who doesnt follow the most basic tenant participates in politics? Lol You don't like it when monks don't participate in politics, but when I say they (tend to) do, you don't like it either?
>>18582119Lol, you think im gonna argue with your bad faith misreading but instead im just gonna laugh at your lack of reading comprehension and mock your lack of creativity: is this the best your intelligence can offer? You cant even defend a position with coherent arguments? Hahahaha>Buddhists can eat meatLol
Yeah, bro. Buddha would know about slaughterhouses and he conditions of them and would totally say: "it is compassionate to eat their meat since you know how they live but you didnt see them get killed" Looool, youre a bright fellow, huh.
>>18582126
>>18582038tax benefits from the American government
I don't call myself a Buddhist or identify with any ideologies
>>18582038Just for clarification, the modern form of Buddhist by the west is a corruption of the doctrines of the Sangha. Theravāda Buddhists kept having to purify their religion and keep in contact with Sri Lanka to do this, whilst Thailand and other SEA suckups abandoned it for Western capitalism. I personally do not consider any other branch of Buddhism valid except Theravāda Buddhism.I'm writing this because everybody here is(probably) an atheist uncultured swine who hasn't read anything about actual Buddhist history. So no offense.
>>18582038Whoa... So deep...
What books can I read on theravada Buddhism?
>>18582038They often don’t, your bait thread is weak
>>18582038you let go of unskillful desires
>>18584684Here:Archives on the Tipitakahttps://accesstoinsight.org/Roots of Buddhism in Burma(one of the original maintainers of Buddhism besides Sri Lanka)https://www.burmalibrary.org/sites/burmalibrary.org/files/obl/docs20/Than_Tun-1959-Religion_in_Burma_AD1000-1300-en-red.pdfIf you're using Windows here's a Pali keyboard layout:fsnow.com/pali/keyboard/If you can get "Introduction to Pali" by A.K Warder
>>18582038Because they're LARPing.>I le... don't care... about... anything...Fucktarded and false way to "live".
>>18582038Cos it's a scam like every other one. The Buddha did what he needed to do for himself and he felt it worked, but all his dipshit followers missed that point and instead mimicked his own unique journey. The only people who truly discovered something new in any religion were the original prophets/leaders. Everyone else after is just a stupid follower.
>>18584361>personally do not consider any other branch of Buddhism valid except Theravāda Buddhism.And I don't think any resident evil games are valid except for the first 3 on Playstation but that doesn't mean anything to you does it
>>18582038What is it about Buddhism specifically that makes you guys feel so threatened? It's not a big religion, especially in the West, so I can't imagine you've met many Buddhists in your life. It's the opposite of an evangelical religion; you've never had Buddhists knocking on your door trying to get you to come listen to them preach to you.Yet you guys are constantly making threads like these, desperately inventing arguments against Buddhism and throwing out all these clever gotchas like this OP. Why? If you didn't go out of your way to think about this religion then you would never encounter it.
>>18585169It's the OG proselytizing religion.
>>18585172It is literally the opposite.
>>18585229Buddha instructed otherwise. How do you even think it spread so far? Because Buddhist monks set out and proselytized just like Christians later did.
The Bodhisattva does not concern himself with debates and argumentation
>>18582038Why are they trying so hard to reach nirvana when we never hear about anyone who gets it done? Their method doesn't seem to work.
>>18585247That's why Pure Land is best. Don't even try, just trust in Amitabha, go to the pure land after death, and become enlightened there.
>>18585239>Buddha instructed otherwise.Completely false. In the Pali Canon the Buddha specifically tells monks not to try to convince laypeople.
>>18582038>why do they attach themselves to a label like religion?They're not doing that. You're doing it.
>>18585377https://www.wisdomlib.org/buddhism/book/vinaya-2-the-mahavagga/d/doc370004.htmlhttps://www.encyclopedia.com/environment/encyclopedias-almanacs-transcripts-and-maps/missions-buddhist-missionshttps://www.britannica.com/topic/How-was-Buddhism-Spread
>>18585285What do I need to do to get in?
>>18585163Okay, maybe I came off strong, I should've provided context.Just a summary, the roots of the original doctrines of Buddhism itself came from India, but then Theravada Buddhism specifically, the oldest and still surviving school of Buddhism took root in Sri Lanka and was then adopted by Burma, it was over the centuries purified by Burmese kings and imposed on all ethnic groups by the Burman group, this then led to empires like the Taungoo and Konbaung that colonized parts of modern-day Manipur, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia. Burmese colonalism is largely why parts of SEA identify as Theravada Buddhist.But here's the difference, unlike Burma who maintained a state-basis relationship with Sri Lanka all other Buddhist nations completely diverged, muddying and corrupting the original doctrines of Thervāda Buddhism with their own ideals over time. his is why Buddhism had become tools of hierachy instead in every existing Buddhist nation like that of the regions of Indo-China for muddying it with their own ideals when the Burmese kings enforced it deliberately because he knew they were deliberately unable to maintain it's purity. Other religions do not pretend to be Buddhism, why should we let corrupt versions of Buddhism even be called Buddhism? There is no logical coherence. What point is there when the liberation the Buddha talked of to help people think is misused for remaking Buddhism itself in the name of materialist ideals? The people that follow these distinct schools are inclined to do so because it follows their lineage not because it is right. The will of the Burmese had been passed from the Sri Lankas and we have kept it by the book, nobody else has because they know if they did the power of the elites would come crashing down. (Pic is of Burmese Taungoo empire)
>>18585247Westerner thinking in materialist terms. Typical.
>>18585972Just letting people know I'm the same anon as the one I'm replying to:Even Christianity the foundation of which all secularism and modern contemporary Western ideas are based off support the theological superiority of Buddhism, being due to the inherent claim that man was built in the image of God proves that the very existence of other religions besides Christianity is inherent proof of divinity amongst all peoples. And that thus, Christianity is compatible with every form of religion in existence as it inherently proves the claim. If everything is going to accordance to God's plan, and yet God gave humans free will, that would logically mean everything humans do is God's plan. The end goal of all Theravada Buddhists, is to become Gods, then surpass being Gods at all. And that is exactly what Christian scriptures and theology have prophesised.
>>18585994Is it a Easterner thing to engage in pointless tasks?
>>18586012No westerner, it's a Burmese thing to actually care more about how you live your life instead of being a mindless drone that consumes mush and faps to anime girls all day.
>>18586018Isn't your country currently engaged in a civil war?
>>18586012And fyi putting aside insults, the West has always inherently had a dislike of Materialism. That's literally what produced the philosophical grounding behind Fascism in the first place. And it's only going to grow more and more until idealism replaces it. Don't even know your own history, but I guess I'm Burmese so that makes it pointless by your logic. Actually, is it logic or is it just you in specific being an idiot? Actual Idealism - Giovanni Gentilehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dDtIn2uFqxs
>>18586048Are you seriously going to act like the West didn't have two world wars that killed millions. WHAT A HYPOCRITE.
>>18586049>>18586054Being this mad can't be good for your karma. >how dare you bla blablaJust saying, maybe clean your own house first before lecturing the world...
>>18586048And just to seriously engage with your mutt of a question, it's a true revolution with global implications. Centralization or federalization? Top-down or bottom-up? Diversity or Unitary? Capitalism or Communism. Out of the ashes of this, a phoenix will rise. This is how I see your "great" French revolution:And now France, the supposed original exporter and model of the republic, that has gained up over 10+ instances of mass social unrest in all it's existence. In all honesty, for all the French revolution, all it really did was allow for the formations of the dictatorial parliamentary model through the Jacobins that used meritocracy as a means of assimilating anybody that aligned with their ideals. Was it really even a revolution when the only thing the French revolution produced was a hypocritical charter of a republic built on the classes of Frenchmen that were systematically privileged on the backs of continents? it cannot really a republic if it's solely built on systematic exploitation, but I instead propose the French revolution was really the attempted consolidation of a new class of elite one that gained power through ruthless technocracy and management.
>>18586059I'm a layman I'm not held by the same rules, and yes you just made yourself look like an idiot AGAIN.Also never said "How dare you" that's a strawman. Can't actually rely on critiquing my actual argument so you have to rely on that. I'm not even lecturing anybody, that's pure projection on your part.
>>18585972What if I think the "corruption" of Buddhism by Chan and its lineages is actually an improvement on Lord Gautama's teachings?
>>18586137Define improvement? Yeah, none.
>>18586137LIKE COME ON, YOU CANT SERIOUSLY THINK MAHAYANA BUDDHISM THAT LITERALLY HAS A STUPID AS IDEA AS "Yeah I'm a Buddha the entire time" IS AN IMPROVEMENT LIKE COME ON, THATS JUST WORDPLAY.
>>18586137To define the entire branch of Maharyana Buddhism is to be is that it's ENTIRELY a smokescreen. It's based off what you "feel" and "do". The sounds you hear. Theravada Buddhism at it's core is radical individualism that is then sublimated to serve the collective. Every other branch of Buddhism eliminates that essential apparatus.
>>18585972Based. For the record, most of the surviving lineages of Indian Buddhism are still Theravada, with regular contact with Burma or Sri Lanka. The only difference is strands of Tibetan Buddhism transmitted mostly due to the Dalai Lama taking refuge in India. As someone who has visited India, Buddhism is mostly seen in its Theravada form in India as a less devotional, more meditation-centered and Buddha-centered path. Indians don't see any meaningful difference between Tibetan Mahayana and Vajrayana forms of Buddhism and the local Hinduism outside of theory.
>>18586169Oh thank you! ^_^Yes I'm aware. There's tons and tons of stories I've heard of in some papers I've read on how this one king in Burma was essentially "blessed" in a sense and converted to Buddhism by the Buddha himself which was the mythological beginning of Burma in Buddhism.And yes! I'm also aware of the Hinduist elements of Buddhism we even share a lot of cultural animals like the galon and such. I'm pretty sure we had a Burmese scholar that had like an entire tour of India visiting the various sites in India like Gaya, Buddha Gaya, Baneres etc. And in regards to Indians not seeing any meaningful distinction, it's often the same on the Theravada Buddhist perspective, it's often why it was imposed to essentially "bring order" to the various forms of Buddhism dotted about initially.
>>18586149By improvement I mean teachings that will bring more people to enlightenment.>>18586153I don't think enlightenment is an external thing that someone can find or be given. If it isn't external thing then it's an internal process. If it's an internal process then it's either a process anyone can achieve or it's a process only a select few elites can achieve. So either everyone is a Buddha-to-be or you're an elitist and I think elitism is counterproductive to enlightenment.>>18586153I do think certain branches of Mahayana leave much to desire but I'm specifically talking about Chan and the forms of Buddhism derived from it.
>>18586186>By improvement I mean teachings that will bring more people to enlightenment.But it's literally terrible at it that's why I called it wordplay. Because it doesn't actually do anything.>I don't think enlightenment is an external thing that someone can find or be given. If it isn't external thing then it's an internal process. If it's an internal process then it's either a process anyone can achieve or it's a process only a select few elites can achieve. So either everyone is a Buddha-to-be or you're an elitist and I think elitism is counterproductive to enlightenment.Theravada Buddhism literally maintains itself by having free Sanghas spread about. Burma literally had free schooling for all boys since the 11th century because of this. Read a book. It was so advanced in fact learning method known as the "Su Ci Pu Ba admonitions":These 8 learning words from Burma are the abbreviation of 8 words derived from Pali:[2] Su - meaning Listening/Taking Knowledge Ci - Reflective Thinking/Critical Thinking Pu - Asking Questions/Problem solving Ba - Discussion/Communicative Vi - Investigative/Analytical thinking and Synthesis thinking Li - Taking Notes/Taking Information Si - Practise/Taking for Skill Da - Learning by Heart/Retaining of more Lasting knowledgeThe aim of this framework was to allow for the various processes so as "the learner acquires not only an acquaintance with knowledge but also the disposition to think about them critically, dialectically and analytically". Thus placing great emphasis on the learner, not the teacher.https://zenodo.org/records/3554766/files/5-Philosophy.pdf >I do think certain branches of Mahayana leave much to desire but I'm specifically talking about Chan and the forms of Buddhism derived from it.The foundations are rotten, there is no logical coherence.
>>18586205You seem awfully focused on learning which I find odd. The Buddha didn't enlighten himself by studying at the library for 49 days. He did it by meditating. While knowledge can be useful for practice at the end of the day you can't intellectually logic yourself into nibbana.
>>18586227Yeah, learning. Learning theology so you can understand the Buddha's teachings. Reciting verses so you don't forget and you can remind yourself. Having a ritual routine where you learn and debate on ethics so you know what you believe in. And no I never said you "intellectually logic yourself" that's pure Western projection, just because Sanghas aren't materialist hellholes that grind down students, doesn't mean ours are.
>>18586239Also correction:>And no I never said you "intellectually logic yourself" that's pure Western projection, just because Sanghas aren't materialist hellholes that grind down students, doesn't mean ours are.And no I never said you "intellectually logic yourself" that's pure Western projection, just because Western schools are materialist hellholes that grind down students, doesn't mean ours are.Apologies.
>>18586227And OF COURSE a guy that supports Mahayana would see someone focused on learning as "odd" You're an aesthete. We've been talking for about an hour now, and never once have you said what Chin Buddhism produced.
>>18586227And don't you DARE use the Qing as justification.We beat the Qing 4 times and made two of your commanders kill themselves. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Burmese_War
>>18586096Poor excuses. You don't actually give a shit about Buddhism. You're just a nationalist from an undeveloped shithole, probably living outside it abroad as is always the case with third world nationalists, using Buddhism as an ethnic identity, not as a religion.
>>18586239I think if you'd spent half the time you spent learning meditating instead you'd be much further along the path but I might be wrong. If you attain enlightenment before me be sure to come find me and help me along and I promise to do the same for you.>>18586256It produces enlightenment, the only thing that really matters. You seem to disagree and I have no way of proving to you that it does.>>18586263I wasn't going to bring up the Qing, I don't see military success as any sort of indicator for correctness. I definitely see nationalism and reveling other people's suicides as an obstacle though.
>>18586286This is literally how the layman-monk relationship works, this is a fact, not an excuse. I'm not tied to any of the other strict codes monks are. Second, I do care a lot, I literally read papers on papers tracing this. I even forayed into Christianity to better understand Buddhism's role in relation to Buddhism. Third, Theravada Buddhism for all it's history has never been untied to ethnic identities yes anybody can be a Theravada Buddhist but don't pretend like the West didn't steal, commercialize and export it to take away the role of the Sangha. And in regards to being a nationalist from an underdeveloped shithole? None of these are lies, these are literally are true, that's not nationalism. Burma literally has a history of continually purifying the Sangha like I've said. We've had 3 empires that's the truth. We've had free schooling systems since the 11th century that's the truth. None of these are nationalist fabrications. You're projecting because you have to make space for Burma's foundational role in maintaining and spreading Theravada Buddhism, well I just did.
>>18582038Buddhists didn't invent the concept of religion, they were slotted into it by Western Christians
>>18586292Ykw, you're a waste of my time, I'd rather let the thread die then continue. You're just looping in circle now. I was using the suicide to show how morally and spiritually weak your own followers were fyi, why? Because they focus on material losses.
>>18586319>I was using the suicide to show how morally and spiritually weak your own followers were fyiWell that's a bad strategy considering that most military leaders in the Qing dynasty would've been Confucians rather than Chan Buddhists.
>>18586330"During the Ming dynasty (1368-1644) and the Qing dynasty (1644-1912) Chan was part of a larger, syncretic Buddhist culture"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chan_BuddhismRead your own history dude, it's literally in the wikipedia page. Oh right, learning odd right?
>>18586319>you're a waste of my timePlay stupid games, win stupid prizes. >>18582120
>>18586364Did you just call yourself stupid? ;-;
>>18586351"The Qing dynasty reached its apex during the reign of the Qianlong Emperor (1735–1796), who led the Ten Great Campaigns of conquest, and personally supervised Confucian cultural projects."https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Qing_dynastyWhile Chan was part of the culture at the time, most people in higher government advocated for and practiced Confucianism.
>>18586308>We've had 3 empires that's the truth. We've had free schooling systems since the 11th century that's the truth. And yet you're nothing but a war torn militarist shithole today too focused on genociding your own people to ever unite ever again. What Western nation are you living in? US? Canada? UK? Or maybe even Sweden? Because I damn well know you don't live in Burma. You thirdie nationalists NEVER live in the shitholes you all praise so highly.>Burma's foundational role in maintaining and spreading Theravada BuddhismThe only one who gives a shit is you. The point being made is that you're a blatantly immature hypocrite who is actively going against his own self professed Buddhist beliefs in favor of third world nationalism and an irrational hatred of Mahayana which does not exist among Theravada at large, who is justifying this by saying "well I'm not a monk!". Grow up.
>>18586373You're so gay for me it makes you look stupid.>who led the Ten Great Campaigns of conquest, and personally supervised Confucian cultural projectsEvery country has culture, also again doesn't matter against Theravada Buddhism because they lost to us. Yeah Chan culture was part of the time meaning it influenced and mixed with Confucian beliefs.
>>18586376DUDE. DO I REALLY HAVE TO LINK EVERYTHING? People not caring doesn't imply it isn't true, that's a fabrication on your part. >And yet you're nothing but a war torn militarist shithole today too focused on genociding your own people to ever unite ever again. What Western nation are you living in? US? Canada? UK? Or maybe even Sweden? Because I damn well know you don't live in Burma. You thirdie nationalists NEVER live in the shitholes you all praise so highly.Dude ;-; You're not making a good argument at all. You're kind of just showing you have nothing to stand on besides where I'm from. That just highlights how inferior you are at actually arguing, ironic no?
>>18586412Saaaarrrr, we have reel Buddhism sarrrr
>>18586412Once again, nobody gives a fuck about the Burmese role in Theravada. Nobody is for or against that role, people genuinely do not care AT ALL one way or the other. I am just pointing out how much of a hypocritical clown you are. You're not a Buddhist, you're a teenaged thirdie nationalist who is most certainly living in the West
>>18586428>>18586429Politely, pleaseeee hop off my dick. This is way too much boypussy in one night.
>>18586454I know its a life marking moment for an ant when it interacts with a human but that doesnt mean that the ant is any important in that humans life
>>18586428Oh wait yeah I forgot to mention we made the British call us Masters. Clean my cock later mmkay?https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thakins
>>18586524>we made the British call us MastersThe fact that you take pride in that tells me how you view them and how you view yourself. Lol. Completely colonized mentality.
Buddhists don't think of what they do in those terms, that's a label applied to them by outsiders.
>>18586408>bro does not know about the three basketsNTA, but there have been cross-system influences between Taoism, Confucianism and Chinese Buddhism, particularly in the Chan school that absorbed Taoist concepts quite visibly. Deny this and you forfeit all of your former points.
Wow.This thread sure is something alright.
>>18586529Burma anon here, look we've been arguing for like what 4+ hours? ;-;I don't agree but I don't want to argue more so I'm just gonna stop, have a nice day. Yes, I really do mean this.
>>18586887Apologies but what you just said is actually incoherent to the point of being blatantly long. The three baskets are an established point in Theravada Buddhism too, it's the method in which schools of Buddhism use it which are corrupt and should be considered heresy for.This means the foundation of which you said I'd be "forfetting" my previous points are wholly invalid.
>>18587851>blatantly longblatantly wrongApologies.
>>18586464You literally swapped from questioning if I was a Buddhist, to writing rants about my country, you REALLY do seem to care for someone that's interacting with a supposed ant. Could this "ant" be you instead?
>>18587851>to the point of being blatantly longSAAARRRRR
>>18582038>labelit's assigned, by some guys. in the place
>>18586227The buddha studied the vedas and was versed enough to debate any brahmin
I wonder if any of the pseuds ITT actually meditate...
>>18587855I'm Indian, plus that literally doesn't work when my ancestors made the British call us masters. It's the other way around. But you're already calling me it, so maybe it's just embedded now in you.
>>18587923>I'm IndianI'm not IndianSorry I got LDs. ;-;
>>18587923We wuzzz masters and buddhists sarrrr
>>18587927Theravada Buddhist, and change masters to philosophers, monks, warriors, kings and poets.You're really not making any good points here besides your own intellectual bankruptcy.
>>18587927Oh wait forgot to mention:Also change "wuzz" to NOW.Monks DO still exist, Sanghas still DO exist, we ARE still resisting external forces, we DO still preserve our theology, we STILL have poets. NONE OF IT IS DEAD.
>>18587985Myanmar is literally just an opium growing zone, get over yourselfLol
>>18582038https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/BuddhasTeachings/Section0003.html>“Now this, monks, is the noble truth of stress: Birth is stressful, aging is stressful, death is stressful; sorrow, lamentation, pain, distress, and despair are stressful; association with the unbeloved is stressful, separation from the loved is stressful, not getting what is wanted is stressful. In short, the five clinging aggregates are stressful.>“And this, monks, is the noble truth of the origination of stress: the craving that makes for further becoming, accompanied by passion and delight, relishing now here and now there, i.e., craving for sensuality, craving for becoming, craving for non-becoming.https://youtu.be/GRSb7Hj383Ihttps://www.dhammatalks.org/books/ShapeOfSuffering/Contents.html>“And this, monks, is the noble truth of the cessation of stress: the remainderless fading and cessation, renunciation, relinquishment, release, and letting go of that very craving."The unfabricated, the end,the effluent-less, the true, the beyond,the subtle, the very-hard-to-see,the ageless, permanence, the undecaying,the surface-less, non-objectification,peace, the deathless,the exquisite, bliss, solace,the exhaustion of craving,the wonderful, the marvelous,the secure, security,the unafflicted, the passionless, the pure,release, non-attachment,the island, shelter, harbor, refuge,the ultimate.>Nibbāna"https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/MindLikeFire/Section0007.html>“And this, monks, is the noble truth of the way of practice leading to the cessation of stress: precisely this noble eightfold path: right view, right resolve, right speech, right action, right livelihood, right effort, right mindfulness, right concentration.”https://www.dhammatalks.org/books/WithEachAndEveryBreath/Section0003.htmlhttps://www.dhammatalks.org/books/OnThePath/Section0000.html
