Has Jay Dyer ever been beaten in a debate?
>>18584073He's loses most debates. He ragequits and hangs up when he loses. He lost to that girl erudite and he ran from Dave Farina. He also got crushed by Malpass a few years ago.
>>18584073>orthobro
>>18584073He doesn't debate about the bible with atheists. That's a clear conceed.
>>18584073>lost to that girl eruditewhat did he say?
>>18584086lol>>18584088good point. i should have said against catholics or protestants
>>18584082>lost to that girl eruditekek, this was so dumb https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bSBfcKYiRhU
>>18584112>not knowing agrippa's trilemma
>doesn't even understand nominalismPeak pseud, no wonder he's a writer for Sam Hyde
>>18584073Do you think this rat will try to debate the LORD when he stands at the great white throne judgement?>>18584086>the EPIC BEARD MAN ferries the kids off for their weekly molestationQuite!
>"Think about it though - married for thirteen years, no children..."
>>18584565qrd?
>>18584680He believes that nominalist denial of "essence" in the Platonic sense is the same as a denial of material existence, which is not what nominalists believe. He tried to argue that transgender identity is nominalist because it is the denial of ones male vs female "essence".
>>18584687Dyer is such a fucking retard, how does he have a following at all?
>>18584691It's groypers and MDE kids who listen to him, subwits mostly
>>18584691what else is he wrong about?
>>18584073It depends on your definitions.
>>18584989The age of the Earth.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ha3wdMil6HQ
>>18584073Mr. Dyer had a debate with Jake Brancetella (muslim metaphysician). Can you intelligent atheist anons explain who won that one? Seemed to me like a draw.
>>18584989He's a creationist.
>>18585466i listened to half of this but it's not convincing
>>18585364>>18585538Link?
>>18584073he rarely actually debates, just shouts over twitter randos, restates his position over and over and will never answer a question until he the twitter guy gets tired of it or kicked from the call. the charlie zelenoff of debate. that being said, I didn't go to bahnsen seminary and don't know what a fallacy is so it appears he already pwned me
>>18584989TAG making it impossible for him to be wrong about Calvinism
>>18585538Yup, abiogenesis can never be replacated honestly in a lab. Scientists can't create life.
He once admitted he was a sperg and it was the most self reflective I've ever been him be. It's dumb, too, that he refuses to recommend OCA churches because they hurt his feefees one.
>>18584687Do you not see how nominalism doesn't lead to post-modernism? Have you not heard of Wittgenstein or Godel?
>>18584073>Scholastic Answers who is a catholic whooped him a new vision of Jesus Christs mercy
>>18584073I dislike him ever since he appeared on the FreemanFly show and stole the mans girl
>>18584073He has an unfalsifiable position then claims you lose if you don't agree with it.
>>18584088This. And that tells you everything. Someone who understands the Bible well could completely destroy him. I could, there's countless contradictions and inconsistencies.
>>18584073almost all people are retards with no discernment who couldnt call him out properly so let me summarize a killshot for his position at his own level (not even going to the many bible contradictions and internal critiques, look up Deconstruction Zone for that as an example):dyers position is essentially:1. in order to have a specific kind of existence/world, you need a specific type of god with specific attributes2. we have/live in that world3. therefore orthodox christian god, with those attributesthe killshot is actually pressing him to prove that these attributes are needed and that his god satisfies it. he cant prove it.he has to go to what he views as divine revelation to try to do so, but this never actually develops into him explaining anything and instead he then always tries to act as if he has 80 iq and suddenly forgot what an internal critique is, since he will then require you to give your own world view for comparison and will run away from an internal critique.essentially insinuating that as long as his story lore is deeper than yours while also being vaguely self-consistent (filled with "we dont know" when pressed and appealing to the flowing and wide/vague nature of the church tradition (some bishop somewhere surely has the right opinion so anyone/any amount of others being wrong is fine), then that means that his world view by default "wins" and must be true. but just because we dont know something doesnt mean that we are forced to accept the others position, we just might never actually come to know that thing given our limited human bodies and ability.
>>18587933 (cont)he also argues around the fact that his morals are objective as they are rooted in god who helps him have actual true knowledge instead of relying only on his senses, but this is obviously begging the question. the "brain in a vat" type of arguments do not, as he argues, destroy the possibility for knowledge to exist at all, no. they instead just destroy the possibility for HUMANS to have absolutely certain knowledge (and yes, that includes this sentence too, since again, just because there is a chance of you being somewhat wrong about everything, does not actually mean you ARE wrong about everything.)jay is probably one of the better debaters compared to the average retard of a person, but i think he is simply too hopepilled and thats why, in my opinion, mostly but not entirely only, his subconscious believes the jewish myth, but for the goyim (christianity). a pascals vager type of idea where he kinda knows that if he is wrong, then the world is already lost, since there isnt much else out there to warm the cattle like the idea of cosmic justice of the, softened by time, jewish myth.i dont particularly glorify any of these people, but they are useful to learn more about these topics easily:https://odysee.com/@KnowMoreNews:1/Judeo-Conspiracy-Mix-2:2https://www.youtube.com/@DZDebates/videosi personally think, that even if the world is to essentially die in the coming decades/centuries, and to save it we need such an insane amount and depth of delusion within 'noble' lies, and to treat people as the cattle most of them are and want to be, then the world doesnt deserve to be saved anyway.
>>18584073Dyer? Who are his parents?
