convince me chritianity is better than paganism
You aren’t going to actually worship this, so there is nothing to discuss.
>>18585915still better than worshipping a jew on stick
The best argument of a Larpagan is a shot from an anime scene.>>18585921
>>18585969What is your best argument christcuck?
the strong eat the weak
>>18585915>Implying pagan myths aren’t allegories >Implying Yahweh didn’t get BTFO by iron chariots and Chemosh in a text that Christians claim to be literal history.
>>18586050>Implying pagan myths aren’t allegoriesThey aren't
>>18586057They are and educated pagans in antiquity thought so. Theagenes of Rhegium, a pre-Socratic philosopher, interpreted Homer allegorically. The Stoics also allegorized myths and they existed centuries before Jesus of Nazareth. Plutarch, a pagan Middle Platonist philosopher and priest of Apollo, wrote a treatise titled “On Isis and Osiris” which interpreted the Egyptian Osiris myth allegorically. Porphyry of Tyre, a pagan Neoplatonist philosopher, wrote a treatise titled “On the Cave of the Nymphs in the Odyssey” which interpreted a brief description of a cave in the Odyssey as an allegory for the soul. Proclus, another pagan Neoplatonist philosopher, wrote a now-lost commentary on Hesiod’s Theogony which allegorized it.
>>18585909I do think Christianity is in a sense better than paganism, it's our sister religion, but i think Islam is better than both.But you'd have to define "paganism" it's a broad term
>>18585921>anime
>>18586073>educated pagans in antiquity thought soThat's because they were atheistsThe only thing that matters is what priests and 99% of the general population thought, not the oddballs writing papyruses
>>18585987>What is your best argument christcuck?
>>18586138No, they were not. They still believed in the existence of the gods and defended traditional religious practices. That is not atheism, actually read the shit they wrote.>The only thing that matters is what priests and 99% of the general population thought, not the oddballs writing papyrusesThen I guess we should throw out the majority of Christian theology since the theologians who interpreted Genesis allegorically were a minority of the population. Historically the vast majority of Christians were peasants who believed in a literal 7-day creation. No, biblical literalism is not something that was invented during the Protestant Reformation, it was something the vast majority of peasants already believed in. The Protestant Reformation simply made a de facto belief de jure.Also most pagan priests in mid to late antiquity were Platonists who allegorized myths, Plutarch was one.
>>18586119Reddit might be more to your liking if you don't think anime belongs here.
>>18585909It's same shit, really.Greek "paganism" kept monotheizing on its own. Christians just got lucky.If not them, then we'd have some Zeus, Zagreus or maybe Mithras as The One True God instead of Yahweh.
Since no Christian can prove it, I'll end the thread here. Odin aka lord Vishnu and Indra aka Thor won and are the best option theologically speaking.
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>>18586190Greco-Roman philosophers were not monotheists lmao. They still believed in the gods and believed they were all aspects or faces of a single divine principle. This is not monotheism as monotheism explicitly rejects the existence of other gods.Believing in a singular divine principle that all reality flowed from did not require you to smash statues of Apollo or call Artemis a demon since the gods were viewed as intermediaries between humanity and this divine principle.>>18586195Vishnu is not a supreme being. Like Yahweh, he is nothing more than a minor tutelary spirit whom Indians have mistaken for a supreme being. The actual father of men and gods is Zeus, not Vishnu.
>>18586216Zeus is incredibly weak in comparison to Yehwah or Allah. I mean these are omnipotent and omniscient beings. Zeus is matched in potency by Posiedon and Hades. Sometimes Aphrodite, or Apollo or other demo-gods in the pantheon.
>>18586225Tf are you on about? The Ancient Greeks and Romans literally believed he could overpower the other gods with little effort and that they all served or at least respected/feared him. In Book 8 of the Iliad, Zeus boasts that if all other gods tried to pull him down to earth from the heavens with a rope, they would fail and Zeus would pull them up instead. Even in Greek philosophy, he was considered the ultimate rational principle that governs the universe and is synonymous with the Stoic Logos because guess what, the Logos is a Stoic concept which predates Christianity and the Stoics specifically identified it not with some 1st century Judean preacher, but with Zeus, the king of gods and men.The demiurge in Plato’s Timaeus was also identified with Zeus by ancient commentators and Plato himself seemed to echo this sentiment given how much he refers to Zeus as the god of gods in his works. Even Socrates, who criticized traditional mythology for its anthropomorphic depiction of gods, still believed in the existence, divinity, and absolute supremacy of Zeus.Some philosophers like Proclus and Gemistos Plethon even went as far as to identity the Neoplatonist One with Zeus and every god as an aspect of Zeus. This idea that paganism is chaotic free-for-all where every god was equally powerful needs to die. In reality, pagans have always believed in a cosmic hierarchy with a supreme god at the top and all other gods subservient to them.
>>18586266In earnest, I have no what you're talking about. I'll agree with everything you said, as if i understood it. But here's the thing right, >In Book 8 of the Iliad, Zeus boasts that if all other gods tried to pull him down to earth from the heavens with a rope, they would fail and Zeus would pull them up insteadYou presented an idea of Zeus in a tug-of-war with the greek pantheon as something tenable, with him overpowering everyone in a display of his might. But this idea is unimaginable with Yehwah/Allah, even within the divine council. He's the single necessary and uncontingent existence of the universe. Nothing can even think of opposing him, nothing happens if he doesn't want it to happen.>the Logos is a Stoic concept which predates ChristianityYeh i know what Logos and Wisdom traditions of Second Temple Judaism are, or where they supposedly come from.>This idea that paganism is chaotic free-for-all where every god was equally powerful needs to dieThis is just popular media, from movies I've learned Hades had better morals than Zeus, who kinda everyone's wife and created demi-gods, which share in his essense. They would be partial Gods. But in Judeo-Christian and Islamic theology, you cannot split God's essense, because he embodys the exact opposite the essential properties of man. He's the infinite, the complete.
>>18585909The early founding of Christian America is all I have to say that it is better than unbelief.Unbelief leads to people bragging that the computer came from people who believe that this invention and all Light of Civilization comes from them, so that they can do porn, drugs, and argue that SpudCells and things like Dolly the cloned sheep is their justification that there is no God, so that they can go back to arming Abortion Clinics with their army so that they can continue to do whatever they want. But this is going to come to a close, as our nation wasn’t founded on those principles, nor was it founded on mass illegal immigration. If you come to America you should have to be informed that our nation and its laws were formed on the basis that it can only be protected from a moral people and it was done by white Christian Europeans coming over who didn’t mate with the Indians, who didn’t do the Spanish Inquisition, and who didn’t do the Protestant English civil war like Cromwell. It was for. Bible believing, Christian New Testament church for a new world with a new government that based the stripes on the flag on the blood of Jesus.As for pagans, they weee just as much as believers in God as us, because we all used to be pagans or Jews spiritually at some point (whether that is spiritually by reading from Moses, or not).Anyway, modern Jews still have to read about Moses and think about his life just like us. A christian still reads their KJV Bible no apocrypha and knows that God said all the gods are real because he talks through them. The part that makes gods false, is if they are an idol or people are holding to that God in a place of unrighteousness like that nobody else can believe in that God which is what leads us to one God, which came out of the Jews, and was the Creator God of the beginning. Whether pagans worship their god or Jesus , you can tell when they don’t really worship God to keep their self pure. They just sin.
>>18585969Sinning against Jesus by calling him a Jew on a stick is both dishonest because it attempts to represent Jesus under a lie , that he was just a Jew, which could mean he is attempting to defend Jews from the “evil Jesus” because he sees Jesus as a false messiah to the Jews and isn’t the messiah Moses talked about of Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, David. And it also shows he doesn’t believe that other gods have powers. Only the god he chooses to believe. But holding that in a place of sin and unrighteousness reveals he just wants to sin and spit on Jesus.
>>18586394Oh my god you idiot, read the full posts,>or where they supposedly come from.You were talking about Philo of Alexandria before, who merely codified the Logos as the Word, influenced by Hellinstic stoicism.But in Second Temple, Logos was the faculty of wisdom or a semi-divine agent amongst many other interpretative traditions without a fixed definition. It came from a speculative reading of various verses of the hebrew Bible, like wisdom of solomon or proverbs. They had angelic mediators like memra, metatron, etc amongst the wisdom traditions. This had little to do with Nicaean Trinitarian dogma, which arose in response to Arius and other heresies. But some scholars like Boyarin and Segal hinted at a continuity. The earliest fathers like Justin the Martyr's understanding was clearly borrowed by middle platonism of hellinstic philosophy.But I'm not expert in this, you seem to have me beat.
>>18586434I don't care what the Jews think of Jesus, I will never forgive either of them for turning the whole of Europe, with its rich history of natural philosophy, into a schizophrenic cesspool.
>>18586190You forgot to mention the All Father, Odin. You also forgot China’s gods and all the Native American gods and gods in Africa (Egypt/and tribal anfricans) and Hinduism.The Jews did combine a lot of those things in the middle of nowhere which was in the middle of everything. You could even say I AM speaking through the burning bush had severely close likeness to native America spirit worship and Moses asking for God to be present with him if he is going to be sent to Egypt for his people, so God agreed to become a pillar of fire by night and a pillar of smoke by day, and give them the mobile tent/the ark of the covenant and the tabernacle as his physical incarnation for them to be present with them as examples of other religions , miracles, and their gods. Walking on water, miracles of riding on clouds (or chariots of fire like Elijah), coming back from the dead or being brought to Heaven, basically everything you can think of is in the Bible except for spiritual evil like reincarnation of a human being into a lower form of life (like an angel). Actually since humans fell from a higher form of life (Man) to sinful nature humans, that’s technically reincarnation and most people don’t catch that when they read it. I’ve never even seen anyone say that before. (A worm such as I, btw). The Greeks and Romans were likely doing the same with all their ideas , but like some of it became Walt Disney cartoons, I think some of it probably got confused. Whereas the Jews actually found the true God because they always had Him, and because their God actually understood how to discern false gods from a true God , understanding we were a Man to begin with in the garden of Eden. What religion has ever told you that truth? I can read it and know that”s acrually true. Most other explanations of God or religion just do NOT have the truth. Or where we are going.
>>18586216Zeus is not real. Grow up.
>>18586446If you don’t care about anything then how do you think anyone is going to listen to you?If you the “I only care about Islam” poster then we know what you plan and I don’t think you have a future.
>>18586434How could Jesus be evil to the Jews? They are the ones who crucified him. To the pure of heart, they would see someone say “Jew on a stick” and arrive to some pretty shocking conclusions about the person who quoted that. To those who just do Not care about purity of heart, truth, or anything good or of God, they would just see that guy as either paid in the internet comments to be a Democrat, or are just extremely jaded and tired and sinful.
>>18586471He is, otherwise he wouldn’t have answered my prayers. If you deny Zeus, then you must also deny the sky, weather, and existence itself.
>>18586434>>18586479>Jews hate christianityWhat is the race Saint Paul says he belongs to in the Bible?What is the race that the Old Testament says is uplifted above the goyim by Yahweh, and chosen as the apple of his eye?What is the race that the New Testament says goyim should not boast against?What is the race that the New Testament reaffirms as being beloved by Yahweh?What race do you think the early Christians were?What race do you think Ambrose of Milan was based on his contemporary depictions and a quick comparison with Jonathan Greenblatt?a) Jews b) literally any other raceWhich religion alongside Islam does the RamBam say brought the world closer to the Torah?Which religion does Chabad Lubavitch primarily cooperate with?Which religion does Ben Shapiro recommend his audience to follow?Which religion are Ben Shapiro's goy employees?Which religion does Dennis Prager recommend his audience to follow?Which religion are Dennis Prager's goy employees?Which religion is the most popular in the most Zionist, most Zogged country in the world (the US)?a) Christianity b) literally any other religion
>>18585909Can't, it doesn't really solve the problem of evil. I guess it offers better cope, to some. Maybe a better tool for the elites too.
>>18586480>otherwise he wouldn’t have answered my prayers.He didn't. You just forgot your meds.>then you must also deny the sky, weather, and existence itself.I needn't.
If the true God is God, then it wouldn’t matter if I was a Native American in America during Abraham. It means my God is talking to me through my family’s tribal beliefs and this would be manifest in honoring my parents , obeying my parents, and grandparents, and performing love and charity for my grandparents, and God would reward me and these things are universal to what Jesus Christ taught in the Bible.Anyway, most Jews don’t even know what is in the Bible. They see the New Testament and they are told “don’t read that, it’s for christians only.” But when a Jew opens the gospels and reads it, they usually say “what? This is all Jews, I am reading about a Jew who was actually the messiah, the son of God, and it was to the Jews.” But they were told their whole life that it was Christians only.
>>18586482I didn’t say Jews hate Christianity, I said “a Jew on a stick” implies this. I hope you aren’t a bot.The New Testament says we are a new creature that is no longer corruptible and restored back to God’s intended design for Man, that a Jew and a gentile can’t enjoy on its own. So when I got to the question “ What is the race that the New Testament says goyim should not boast against?What is the race that the New Testament reaffirms as being beloved by Yahweh?”I realized you don’t have reading comprehension because the New Testament actually doesn’t reaffirm that Jews are beloved by Yahweh. It instead apologizes for their embarrassment and says they will always have a remnant, but that christians are the beloved. Not Jews.However, God is the root. Not christians themselves. Not going any further.
>>18586480Good job brother Anon. I too went to Spitz Mediterranean and had OG Gyros on the day it rained, praise the Lord!
If you're a superstitious idiot prone to religious fanaticism you might as well follow the religion that defeated all the ancient ones to become the dominant world faith.
>>18585921>okay it’s all fake but>>18586050>god of war in a jar is an allegory o algoAs I said, you aren’t actually going to worship the Greek pantheon, so there is nothing to discuss.
>>18586589I do worship them, is prayers, pouring libations or offering bread and grapes not enough for you?
>>18585909A human being in 2026 cannot be intellectually convinced "paganism" (whatever that entails) is true. It would just be LARPing.
>>18586598Dumping a 20 ounce of Monster Energy on your patio while imaging Kratos nodding on approvingly is even more cringe than the worst fedora meme.
>>18586605Asians are human too
>>18586605>"paganism" (whatever that entails) is true. It would just be LARPing.>I have no idea what paganism is or looks like but I definitely know that it's always inauthenticgreat post>>18586609as if anyone would ever believe that any of the militant sedevacantist tradcath soldiers for christ on this site ever leave their mom's basement to go to church or do charity work or anything. You ever think the reason that you find someone worshipping a god so cringe is because you're just a repressed atheist
Christianity IS pagan, have you not read Exodus? The pharaoh has magicians and the magicians enslave the Jews with the powers of Ra and Osiris. All the gods of all the pantheons exist, it’s just that Yahweh is the strongest so it’s effectively monotheistic not literally monotheistic.
>>18585909Greco-Roman paganism in its original form was a loose confederation of initiatory cults that shared an only partially overlapping mythos. No claims to universal truth or meaningful answers to the deeper mysteries of existence were to be found in their doctrines. Worse still, the only people who were able to fully partake in the religion were the priests themselves, and unless you had the resources to sacrifice a hecatomb (you don't), you wouldn't even have a meaningful chance of petitioning the gods to hear your prayers. And let's not get started on the afterlife, where the virtuous and the villainous shared alike in their fate to be mere shades in Hades. Paganism was good if you were royalty or a priest, and awful if you were anyone else. By comparison, Christianity offers the chance for even a lowly slave to achieve full communion with a personal God, along with an afterlife that rewards virtue and punishes wickedness.
>>18586779> You ever think the reason that you find someone worshipping a god so cringe is because you're just a repressed atheistNo, I think atheists truly believe there is no god. They don’t think it’s a “metaphor” for being based and redpillled.
>>18585909You could make an easy argument that Athena is represented by the snakes and for some reason some people really want to worship that.
>>18585909Become a core shaman, see if it's for you.Core shamanism is the Michael Harner thing
>>18585909 less homosexuals and pedophilia
>>18586806>No claims to universal truth or meaningful answers to the deeper mysteries of existence were to be found in their doctrines.Never heard of Stoicism and Platonism award. Even the Epicureans tried to understand the nature of the gods.>Worse still, the only people who were able to fully partake in the religion were the priests themselves, and unless you had the resources to sacrifice a hecatomb (you don't), you wouldn't even have a meaningful chance of petitioning the gods to hear your prayers.Animal sacrifice by the 4th century was already unpopular to pagans in the Mediterranean and had declined massively even in the century before. They were considered too “messy” and most people had begun to prefer solely bloodless sacrifices that didn’t involve killing animals such as prayers, libations, and incense.Also, most sacrifices don’t even take the form of animals anyways. There are different degrees and levels of offerings and sacrifices. Incense and votive offerings were commonly used throughout pagan Europe. Germanic archeological sites are usually littered with golden figurines buried as sacrifices. Germans made sacrifices of everything really including swords and flags looted from enemies. The Romans often made offerings of oatcakes with butter along with frankincense to Jupiter.>And let's not get started on the afterlife, where the virtuous and the villainous shared alike in their fate to be mere shades in Hades.Completely untrue, look up Tartarus and Elysium. There’s also the fact that many philosophies and mystery cults believed in reincarnation.
As someone who isn't religious, my take on Christianity is it's a religion where you believe a bunch of absurd fairy tales and follow a bunch of arbitrary rules and doctrines jews and other foreigners made up and following these rules and doctrines brings utter ruin to Western civilization because you have to be an anti-racist pacifist if you actually follow the religion sincerely. It's pretty cucked and offers no value whatsoever spiritually. The preachers just spend their days fear mongering about a big jew in the sky who is going to punish you forever if you don't submit. This is about as far removed from enlightenment as a religion can get.Other religions also believe in absurd fairy tales of course but they don't have all these weird strings attached like Christianity. I think some pagans think they have to believe mythology literally because that's what they were taught as Christians. Nothing is allowed to be metaphorical anymore because of the pervasive influence of Abrahamic religion and attitudes.Fairy tales are not useful when the metaphor or original meaning is lost. What is the point of paganism? You can shed the cucked doctrines but what about the spiritual side of things? At least with paganism, you are free to pursue enlightenment. Meditation is much more worthwhile than a single verse in the Bible. Pagans used to do things like that. They used to take psychedelics and enter altered states of consciousness. They used to contemplate life and death and who they were. It's much more important to get in touch with spiritual practices than to burn an offering at an alter to your imaginary friend or to pretend the wine is the blood of a magic flying jew.
>>18586119I'm a raped self-hating sperg who larps as a normalfag in front of other imageboard spergs and this is my post
>>18586119anime website
>>18586915>roman/chinese/germanic/hindu religion>no weird strings attachedYou can tell when the larper's only exposure to ancient religions is a combination of Marvel, Disney's Hercules, and Youtube influencers.
Christians are simply retarded. The greeks had been reading their myths allegorically for hundreds of years and now today there are still retards who think the Bible is literally. Christianity was a step backwards for humans
>>18586991>>18586916Your arguments are based on anime because you're a horny bitch in heat. Anime isn't an argument those who use it as arguments are childish retards.
>>18586831>No, I think atheists truly believe there is no god. They don’t think it’s a “metaphor” for being based and redpillled.yes, that's why you're repressed. You try to dull your non-belief through extremely gay LARPs, but it doesn't fully work, so when you see a guy sacrificing to the gods, your inner atheist cringes.
>>18586605It's easier to believe than Christianity because it doesn't necessarily make any claims about historical events. It's impossible for any intelligent person to suddenly start believing some guy in the Middle East 2000 years ago was the son of God and rose from the dead unless they were brainwashed as a child. Paganism at worst is just interpreting personal psychological phenomena as "gods", which is easier to do.
>>18585909You can't because it's not. Christianity celebrates weakness and servility and letting tyrants beat you.
>>18585921based...
>>18587441>>18587297>are the gods real or not? Well that depends on why you are asking, cishetTiresome.
>>18585921Odin and Thor are Owned by Disney
>>18587470Did rabbi Jeshua fly into the sky or not? Was this a real historical event?
>>18586605Nobody with an education can be convinced of christianity as a whole. That's why you invented 'belief'
>>18585909It is not. Zeus is superior to rabbi Yeshua (Yahweh Junior).
>>18587212Have you looked at the legal genealogy of Adam and Eve to Jesus Christ through Mary and Joseph?Literally means literally.The Bible is filled with allegory and metaphor, but so is Anything. The Bible tells you that the spirit is everywhere and much of the spirit is just trying to destroy you and uproot you like the winds. Only the Christian is the firmly anchored rooted tree that shall survive while the rest are tossed and turned like an aimless vessel in the raging seas.So no. “My Greek Orthodox Church just views it as some really nice pleasant tEaCHiNgS” is not the truth of the matter of it being the kjv bible is the Holy Bible (God’s Word). And Jesus Christ was “the Word made Flesh” meaning we HAVE to agree with one inerrant Word that Jesus was. Was he written by the Koran???? Or was it written by the King James (even the Bible says it must be written by a King).Thanks for giving your full surrender to the Holy Word and True Jesus Christ , not the institutional version the Catholics made. As that is the only way to please God.
>>18585909monotheism which is the reordering of the chaos of polytheism, also links to ancient solar worshipping. Jesus being a solar diety linked through his mother Mary (stella matutina). Also she's "the woman clothed with the sun". Serious shit
>>18585987How about pagan worship revolved around sacrificing and eating humans. That is if they weren't left on the side of a mountain as an infant.Christianity is the Path, the Life, and the Truth. It was so obvious to your ancestors they converted. Vikang religion ends with everyone being eaten by a serpent. Gee what's that remind me of? It's because the same serpent was whispering to them and pretending to be their ancestors and gods.The Saxon's own pagan priests advised the Kings to let the Christian missionaries in so they could learn from them. They wanted out of the cycle of revenge killings and human sacrifice to demons.You can try to make your new based religion, but it will fail. Julian the Apostate tried to revive Neo-paganism in 300 AD and it was already too late. Not to mention, many of the heathens you will encounter don't care about being based, they just want to invent their own morality that somehow always allows them to be degenerates and do butt-stuff.
>>18587234see >>18585987
>>18587536>How about pagan worship revolved around sacrificing and eating humansNo it didn’t, you got that from Simon Salva who got it out of his anus
>>18587681I don't know who that is. There's tons of accounts of pagans ritually murdering and consuming people as a part of their religion. Modern people have to try to use ancient aliens to explain why disparate civilizations have pyramids with this going on. The "aliens" were there, they just so happened to be demons.
>>18587793>Aliens are demonsMeds. Now.
>>18585909It's not about what is better, it's about what's better for (You) specifically. Religion is not only a manifestation of nation's culture and concepts of morality, it is also about the environment where people live. The reason why European paganism has tree spirits and all sorts of small magical creatures like Faeries and Gnomes is because European pagans were born and raised around forests and whatever lives there.If you are European living in Europe, even if you are a Christcuck - I'm sorry to tell you this, but you are pagan, no matter what skins you put on your deities. Europeans only larp as Christians, but in their religious practices they have all the same cultural and environmental identity as back in the day when they were pagans. If average American protestant would see what an average orthodox grandma in eastern Europe does as her daily religious routine they would scream witchcraft. You cannot escape this because it is not some alien framework forced upon you, but an expression of who you are as a person, based on where you were born and raised.
>>18587939>ayo we wuz Christians n shit niggaStop trying to larp as me and fuck off to your "Indo-European" buddies in Hindoostan.
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>>18588939>Jews hate christianityWhat is the race Saint Paul says he belongs to in the Bible?What is the race that the Old Testament says is uplifted above the goyim by Yahweh, and chosen as the apple of his eye?What is the race that the New Testament says goyim should not boast against?What is the race that the New Testament reaffirms as being beloved by Yahweh?What race do you think the early Christians were?What race do you think Ambrose of Milan was based on his contemporary depictions and a quick comparison with Jonathan Greenblatt?a) Jews b) literally any other raceWhich religion alongside Islam does the RamBam say brought the world closer to the Torah?Which religion does Chabad Lubavitch primarily cooperate with?Which religion does Ben Shapiro recommend his audience to follow?Which religion are Ben Shapiro's goy employees?Which religion does Dennis Prager recommend his audience to follow?Which religion are Dennis Prager's goy employees?Which religion is the most popular in the most Zionist, most Zogged country in the world (the US)?a) Christianity b) literally any other religion
>>18589055Here's a simpler question for you: Which race warned about the developing proto-Talmudic movement and eerily labeled them with accuracy?
>>18586852LESS?! What fucking reality do you live in?
>>18589055>goyimHow's the weather in tel aviv?
>>18589105>Jew A rejects Jew B, therefore Jew A isn’t a Jew>>18589408I denounce the Tanakh, the Talmud, Yahweh, and Moses
>>18585921That is just the result of artistic depiction. Jesus was a tradesman. Traditionally he was said to be a carpenter, but the word tekton can also be translated as "builder". This includes building with wood, but the region is stone country. He was moving and cutting rocks all day as well, even though he wasn't an actual mason. Jesus was probably pretty ripped.
I think that god as in a unified higher power exists and is real, and has been interpreted in different ways by different cultures and peoples
>>18585909This statue was a forgery made by a christian
>>18585909>paganismnot a religion
>>18589821Denounce the Tanakh, Talmud, Yahweh, and Moses
RETVRN TO JVPITER
>>18589538talmud allows lying. Give weather report.