"I have a list of 30 known communists working in the State Department.""Alright, Senator, may we see this list?""No."
>>18586755>inb4 /pol/ shows up to tell us how McCarthy was an American patriot instead of a sociopath who ruined countless lives
was this the Epstein Files of the 50s?
>>18586755>that guy at the leftlol
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>>18586755there's a good chance the Army, FBI, etc were doing their own investigation into communist subversives and McCarthy was probably fucking that work up with his actions
>>18586755Note that Eisenhower never said a thing about McCarthy until he started attacking his precious Army.
>>18586781Sort of. Except McCarthy didn't have a list and was just taking advantage of the benefit of the doubt he was given to try and advance his own political career.
>>18586784Attacking celebrities was dumb, random screenwriters in Hollywood weren't in a position to be Soviet spies.
>>18586755Patrick Hurley did the exact same thing a decade earlier.
>>18586792he was elected to the Senate in the 1946 Republican wave and didn't really do anything important in terms of bread-and-butter policies so when his reelection was coming up in 52 he needed some big attention-getting stunt
>>18586781>>18586792It’s like if the Epstein files were a massive open secret and some politician who didnt have them claimed that he actually did have them for the political clout.
Another tulsatranny thread?
>>18586758Freedom of speech doesn't mean freedom from consequences, chud.
>>18586784This. There absolutely were Soviet spies. 100% proven. Bothering left wingers, civil rights activists, and Hollywood entertainers was both a distraction and disruption. Especially since the added noise of every single moron with nothing better to do lobbing paranoid accusations about was wonderful cover for professional intelligence operatives.
>alger hiss>harry dexter white>lauchlin currie>julius and ethel rosenberg>maurice halperin>duncan lee>klaus fuchs>harry goldThe Venona papers have already vindicated McCarthy thoroughly. Also reminder one of the gotchas they pulled at him was about "muh poor old lady" working as a clerk at the Pentagon who was then turned out to have been a Communist party member who lied about it.
>>18586880So Thomas Massie? He literally claimed he has names and would read them on the Congress floor
>>18586792Truth is McCarthyism was widely successful. It's main purpose was to undue the nationalization of the economy, public acceptance of left wing views, and quasi-socialist policies undertaken to win WW2, a goal which it achieved beyond it's architects wildest expectations. It purged the larger American government of anyone with an ounce of integrity or belief in bettering the lives of the American people that might cost the ownership class a cent, permanently crippled the labor movement, and fully brought the entirety of American media under an umbrella of censorship and thought control. McCarthy was only "stopped" once this was all achieved and he had outlived his usefulness to his masters. He tried to maintain relevance by going after the Military but was too stupid to realize the MIC were the people backing him in the first place. So he was "heroically" told to shut up by the military.
>>18587091This but MLK.
>>18586755But the Soviet Union had both spies in the US, as well as a legion of domestic collaborators
>>18587120Their motte is "McCarthy was so sloppy he prevented the government from spotting the real spies" while the bailey is "Communist party members should be allowed to work in the Pentagon".
>>18586755Soviet Spies were real and famously stole US nuclear secretsBut the Red Scare still wasn't justified
>>18586755The 2 drawbacks to the Red Scare were 1. that it strengthened internationalism and pro-interventionism sentiments on foreign policy and 2. that it didn't go nearly far enough on the domestic front.
>>18586795A lot of butthurt over McCarthy is because of that. If he did attack government workers then nobody would care.
>>18587091>It's main purpose was to undue the nationalization of the economy, public acceptance of left wing views, and quasi-socialist policies undertaken to win WW2,that was already over by 1948, LBJfag
I like how in Oppenheimer they're open about them all being Commies while at the same time whining about McCarthy. Real schizo stuff
>>18586804The thing with McCarthy was that the major purges of communists already took place between 45-50’ quietly as the more dangerous Soviet agents were rooted out. Roosevelt had let them fester to much in his naivety of Stalin, something Truman and the State Department corrected as the Cold War began. Notice that most of the ones in this list were caught between that time period. >>18587069By the time of McCarthy came along he made it some spectacle with irrelevant celebrities.
>Puts McCarthy on television >Destroys his careerWhat did he mean with this?
>>18587306as has been already explained, he absolutely did not give a shit about McCarthy until he attacked his precious Army
>>18587091>war economies are most effective when they're centrally planned>this means the peacetime economy needs to be centrally plannedTruly galaxybrained stuff, how has nobody thought of that before
>>18586755>among you there are spies and we have evidence of it!> “May we, among whom there are spies, see this sensitive information that may or may not incriminate us?”>noWhy do lefties pretend not to understand opsec?
>>18586755I wonder how many Soviet spies could have been prevented if Whites were simply prejudiced against lefties and nons
>>18587464>muh leftists whiner shows upOpenly declaring suspicion and knowledge of their presence is itself a direct break in opsec you retarded faggot. He probably wiped his ass with years of actual FBI investigation right then and there.
>>18587580but we know today he was right, multiple high profile "Americans" were communists and it was most prominent among leftists and zionist- "conservatives".
>>18587580>>muh leftists whiner shows uplol you're the same anon who kept denying that Jonestown was an act of leftist political violence in the face of undeniable evidence.
>>18587071>One of the dumbest politicians of our timeYeah I guess
>>18588426You don't get it, he stands up to pedophiles and Israel!
