>81 years later his ideology is completely vindicated by China>China is now outperforming America in every aspect>italian fascism only went wrong because of italy's geography
National Socialism > Fascism
The difference between Mussolini and modern China is that Mussolini was an opportunist who betrayed the wider labor movement to side with industrialists, and he didn't even really create a "corporatist" or national syndicalist system despite being in power for 20 years. China's current thing is a liberalization of Marxism-Leninism that happened because the current global bourgeoisie are unaccountable and can flee to different countries, while starving your own at the most meager reforms like higher taxes.No one besides autistic communists on the internet hates fascism because of corporatism, they hate it because of world war 2, the genocides, and the opportunistic backstabbing of unions and anything related to labor
>>18587039China is de-facto corporatist.
back to nest, bug
>>18587035>The Fascist dislikes earthly happiness and disdains the comfortable life.-- Mussolini, the Decalogue of Benito Mussolini (1940)>Fascism denies the materialistic conception of happiness as a possibility, and abandons it to the economists of the mid-eighteenth century. This means that Fascism denies the equation: well-being = happiness, which sees in men mere animals, content when they can feed and fatten, thus reducing them to a vegetative existence pure and simple.-- Mussolini, The Doctrine of Fascism (1932)Chinese propaganda (2026):https://youtu.be/3jkQ1kcmhc0
>>18587035China has nothing to do with Fascism, you are just another clueless impressionable rightoid moron with the brain liquified by reading /pol/
Mainland Chinese are the poorest Chinese people in the world.
>>18587035Elaborate on the similaritiesBe specific
>>18587039>YOU DIDNT MURDER INNOCENT PEOPLE JUST FOR HAVING STUFF?!!??! YOUVE BETRAYED LABOR!!Why THE FUCK are they like this?Why can’t we just have a reasonable Leninist again? Why must it always be these psychotic liberal communists. We hates liberals.
>>18587222>I am an expert on fascism>t. Non fascist????Nothing in fascism is against what China is doing or has done.Lefties always project their ideology onto fascism. Fascism is more like a spirit, it’s about doing what’s best for the collective.Pre-liberal communists used to have this same spirit then this weird puritanical rabbinical liberalism took hold and demanded everyone adhere to a strict regimen of ideas half that work and half that done leading to inevitable collapse.>muh heckin atrocitiesNot a single idea hasn’t been killed/died over.An idea Putting something above status quo ethics isn’t an argument against that idea.
>>18587035China’s governmental structure is way different than Fascist italy. China runs on meritocratic democratic centralism.
>>18587431>be specificIs this where you award yourself the right to nitpick and say “wel Mussolini didn’t do exactly this and China didn’t do exactly that therefore there is zero similarity”?Both sought to find a harmony between social, economic, and religious strata, both sought to expand and enrich the people as a collective, both sought to defend and safeguard the people from foreign aggression and subversion.These are specific goals which when taken together are the essence of fascism.Sorry if you never learned what fascism actually is.
>>18587051>>The Fascist dislikes earthly happiness and disdains the comfortable life.Didnt he like... do stupid shit the mistress he got hanged with?Lol
>>18587035TRVKE
>>18587035Holding it wrong. After crashing into the ground with the death of the Qing and the subsequent hyperwar, China developed within the last 30 years. As time wears on, it will develop a patina and decay. This is precisely what is happening to the US right now.It's modernist delusion to imagine the march of time as a thing of monotonic progress. Even when the evidence of the cycle of decay and restoration is laid before your eyes, you can't see it. You have to boil it down into competing ideologies which are ultimately all hollow. It's precisely this delusion which has given birth to the irrational surprise that China has not remained a shithole forever. Viewing time as a linear struggle between vacuous word games because you're too stupid to grasp the hyper-granular relational and eternal flux of reality is not an argument, it's just intellectual narcissism. After it has fully decayed, the a political entity on par with the US will return after a century or two. The ignorance of the linear historical model will continue to persist at that time, and contemporaries will be shocked that the North American landmass became a geopolitical power player once again.>>18587039>The difference between Mussolini and modern China is that Mussolini was an opportunist who betrayed the wider labor movement to side with industrialistsThe modern Chinese political philosophy isn't any different. It's much less on the nose about it, sure, but the primacy of the industrialists over their labor is a steadfast feature of party politics, because it's in the party's best interests to do so. The industrialists are, by law, part of the party after all.
>>18587541>China developed within the last 30 years. As time wears on, it will develop a patina and decay.The only thing that could stop or even slow down China is demographics. But automation will more than make up for that.
>>18587039Ah yes China, famously known for caring about the worker and isn't just a dystopian sweatshop industrialist playground.
https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14519860/#q14519860https://desuarchive.org/his/thread/14478065/#q14478143Ming China defeated the Portuguese fleet at the battles of Tunmen, Shancaowan, and Shuangyu Islandhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tunmenhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Shancaowanhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Galeote_Pereirahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ShuangyuOutnumbered Portuguese SLAUGHTERED and raped numerically superior Japanese forces at Fukuda bayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Fukuda_Baythey also humiliated Japanese at Nossa Senhora da Graça incidenthttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nossa_Senhora_da_Graça_incidentThe Japanese had to beg the Dutch to help them crush the Shimabara rebellion and ferry troops over to attack the Spanish philippines because the Japanese navy was so pathetic.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shimabara_RebellionJapan lost every single naval battle to China in the Tang dynasty and Ming dynasty combined, they only won a naval battle against Koreans.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Noryanghttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_BaekgangSole Japanese naval battle was won against gookreans.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chilcheollyang
>>18587451Nothing in fascism is against what China is doing or has doneFascism is the literal opposite of Marxist-Leninist China, Fascism = far rightoid thugs take over the State with the support of industrialists, they are the violent arm of Capitalism when it feels threatened by Socialism becoming popularIn China corporations have no political power, they are subjected to the Party, China is a Marxist-Leninist state where they liberalized the consumer economy (to an extend, there are still Party cells inside corporations making sure that they adhere to Party principles), that's it. They are following their own version of the New Economic Policy
>>18587035Italian Fascismo (AKA: trade unionism) only failed because Mussolini was too much of a cuck and tied himself to Hitler. The world is always better without the Germs.
>>18587946>Germanic tribesHave been misstreated despite their loyalty to Rome to the point where even many Romans started to think that Rome is in the wrong. Not to forget that the collapse of the Roman empire brought many necessary technological advancements (metallurgy and agraculture) that helped Europe become the dominant global power.>4th CrusadeThe dominant powers of the 4th Crusade were Venice and France, dumbfuck. >ReformationThe Church was a stagnant, corrupt institution exploiting Christianity for monetary gains. And in most of the later wars religion was more a statement to what side you were on rather than the leading ideology that shaped foreign policy. Your own example of the 4th Crusade literally proves it.>CommunismSo unpopular in Germany that Marx had to go to France and Britain. Also need I remind you that Germans never had a communist goverment on their own volition besides a small short lived Republic in Bavaria, but most of Eastern Europe did? >WW1The result of a complex web of alliances. Furthermore, Austria-Hungary was a multiethnic empire which was ruled by Germans and Magyars on an equal basis.>Nazis making Nationalism a taboo beliefFucking Niggercope. That is the result of Europe getting on its knees for the U.S., it has nothing to do with the Nazis.>EUMultinational organisationy Germany holds as much power as France and still has to share some power with Italy. Your shithole of a country didn't take in refugees because Merkel was ruling over Germany, it's because you made yourself reliant on the EU and thus had to play by its rules. Genuine skill issue.
>>18587970>NoOoOoOoOoOo>You have to be nice to the Germs while they ruin your society!>Not doing that would be mean!!!!!!!!!!
>>18587863>In China corporations have no political power, they are subjected to the PartyIn China the Party = State and in fascism the corporations are subservient to the State. You just described fascist corporatism. >they are the violent arm of Capitalism when it feels threatened by Socialism becoming popularMussolini and his people were self-proclaimed socialists. Mussolini had 2/3 of the economy nationalized. Mussolini also wanted friendly relations with the Soviet Union.
>>18587974Nope retard, China is following the leninist New Economic Policy, that's not ''corporatism'', it's the opposite of corporatism in fact. Again you are just a clueless teenager who fried his brain reading pol, like many others before you unfortunately
>>18587973Back to /pol/ with you, nigger.
I hate both Chuds and Tankies but for some reason Tankies piss me off way more
>>18587979>projection.jpg
>>18587978>Again you are just a clueless teenager who fried his brain reading polThe only boards on here I use are /v/, /tv/, and /his/ lol. You can't argue without devolving into childish insults.>China is following the leninist New Economic Policy, that's not ''corporatism''In China, both labor and capital are absorbed into the State and reconciled. This is exactly what Mussolini wanted. 1. Labor and capital both have representation in the State in the form of committees and other various organizations.2. Independent trade unions are banned, the official union system is expected to work with employers and the state rather than organize adversarial bargaining.3. The government sets strategic priorities and steers investment through planning, subsidies, and regulation.4. Major industries such as banking, energy, telecommunications, railways, and defense are dominated by state-owned enterprises.Everything I just described was practiced in Italy and China. China obviously LARPs as communist, but everything about it is corporatist. Combine this with China's nationalism and autocracy, and it is extremely similar to fascism. I'm assuming you're a leftist, so the idea of your favorite AES state actually being de facto corporatist upsets you greatly. You will never be able to divorce yourself from your biases long enough to look at the arguments objectively. China's political economy in practice resembles a corporatist system regardless of its constitutional or ideological self-description. China's flag itself is corporatist as fuck, the stars represent the working class, the peasantry, the urban petite bourgeoisie, and the national bourgeoisie being subservient to the CCP or the State (the big star).
>>18587978How is China Marxist-Leninist and following the New Economic Policy that Stalin got rid of>>18587863
>>18587288>GDP per capita Kill yourself
>>18588025Yes, GDP per capita, as in how much the average person contributes to and participates in the economy. China is the second most populous country in the world and its economy still trails behind a country with less than a third of its population
>>18588028>Yes, GDP per capita, as in how much the average person contributes to and participates in the economyGDP itself is a faulty method of measuring quality of life and per capita also ignores wealth inequality and just measures economic output divided by the population and if used would make tax havens like Ireland Switzerland and Singapore the most “productive” in the world>its economy still trails behind a country with less than a third of its populationIt’s still the 2nd largest economy by GDP if you wanna use that still
>>18588028Qatar has one of the highest per capita GDPs of the world, but the country produces very little actual value.
>>18588077TAIWANNUMBERONE
>>18587288Then why do overseas Chinese people of note move back to the mainland instead of to Taiwan?Imagine if overseas Korean PhD grads keep moving back to North Korea
>>18588086Even if adjusted with exchange rates GDP per capita still has the same issues listed before
>>18588077By the same standards you can argue that China's GDP is measured by how many empty buildings Evergreen built before they collapsed
>>18588103NTA but Chinese real estate prices are back down to where they were 20 years ago but Chinese GDP per capita keeps growing. So this isn't an argument.
>>18588103Im only saying GDP isn’t a good measurement for anything besides economic output and you’re not wrong that it can be faulty and inflated like with your example if it’s to be believed
Why do people want China to be “owning the gringos” so much? They’ve done well for themselves in the last few decades, but compared to Chinese people (who obviously have a different base iq than Latinx) who took a different development path, communism was a complete disaster.
>>18588118China has been in a recession for the past 5 years
>>18588121The TRVKE is that China's relative success has nothing to actually do with Communism, they'd be in an identical spot today if they were Capitalists instead, their relative success comes largely down to simply having a functional government and a large population
>>18588121They're third worldists, their entire worldview is based on whatever is contrarian to the American world order even though China has closer diplomatic ties to the US than they do to their favela laden shitholes
>>18588124Taiwan gives actually a very good picture of where they would be if they didn’t experiment with retarded ideologies like communism!
>>18588122If China is in a recession then so is 80% of the world which have a lower GDP YoY growth rate.
>>18588124Republican China couldn't stop Japan from seizing manchuria. Red China pushed the Americans out of north Korea.
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>>18588126Taiwan is, by construction, what the KMT government was left with when they can't hold the Chinese mainland, which is a prerequisite to governing China. If you can't get that right it doesn't matter if you achieve economic miracles on an island later.
>>18588134Yes none of these countries are in a recession. The world avg is clearly well below China's growth. Thanks for proving me right.
>>18588132Red China couldn't prevent Vietnam from occupying Cambodia
>>18588126Any state would benefit from a world power paying for civilian and military infrastructure from the beginning of its existence
Fascism is pretty much the end game system. If Fukuyama described fascism instead of liberalism he would have been closer to correct re end of history. Shitler corrupted it and gave it a bad name
>>18588007>China's flag itself is corporatist as fuck, the stars represent the working class, the peasantry, the urban petite bourgeoisie, and the national bourgeoisie being subservient to the CCP or the State (the big star).I think the CCP controls the state, and the state is subservient to the CCP. This might not seem like an important thing to stress but the fascist party in Italy was subservient to the state. It ended up becoming that way pretty early on.Also I don't think this really gets at what made fascism unique. I think it was a very unusual and distinct early 20th century phenomenon. I don't think there's any fascist-type regime in the world today.>>18588121>Why do people want China to be “owning the gringos” so much?Powerless losers on the internet who LARP as 20th century ideologies want China to be that because it makes them feel good.>>18588122>China has been in a recession for the past 5 yearsYes. The economy is in the shitter, but foreign sentiment about China is like 4-5 years out of date. Right before COVID was the peak of China's boom and attitudes towards China were still stuck in the attitude that they just make buckets and bolts, which was no longer accurate. Now people have been thinking China is doing really well rather than a bunch of people going bust, afraid of losing their jobs, and cutting back on spending.
>>18588153Yes that's clearly much worse than losing Manchuria and XinjiangAlso Red China operates a naval base in Cambodia right now so that's a piss poor example to begin with
Post Mao China is practicing National Socialism with Chinese Characteristics. Its the perfect fusion of Hegelian-Kojevian dialectics, state centered Schmittian authoritarianism, and pragmatic realpolitik.
>>18588161>Also I don't think this really gets at what made fascism uniqueCan you elaborate?>I think the CCP controls the state, and the state is subservient to the CCP.They're the same thing.
>>18587039>thing is a liberalization of Marxism-Leninism that happened because the current global bourgeoisie are unaccountable and can flee to different countriesI think it's more related to the near universal abject poverty involved with real socialism.No?
>>18587863>In China corporations have no political power, they are subjected to the Party,lol.
>>18587978>the leninist New Economic PolicyPrivate ownership of the means of production isn't very ... communist... or even very ... socialist.Where have I heard this before?
>>18587035>Liberals will literally fellate Mussolini before admitting that China is Communist.
>>18588124>they'd be in an identical spot today if they were Capitalists insteadThey are capitalists.
germshits always get raped by Poles. shitalians get what they deserve for allying with germshits
>>18588260China literally is not communist, even communists will tell you so.
>>18588160This is because, Fascism, is simply monarchy.The dear leader is the kingThe Party is his court of loyal followers seeking favour.Inevitably, the title of Leader is passed down to the offspring of the Leader.The Chinks are currently fighting internally over exactly who this gets to be right now. Eventually one faction will win and one will become the hereditary Leader.This is the end state of all Socialism. The recreation of a monarchy.In fact, this is really the true purpose of socialism. It's a tool to destabilise nations, so the existing establishment can be removed, and a new hereditary monarch installed.Senior socialists are perfectly aware of this of course, which is why they purge all competitors the second they gain power.
>>18588157>¡chu don’t get it, cabron!>¡taiwan is only rich because el estadios unios paid for their defense!>… well their defense from being ruled by dysfunctional mainland communists…¡Ayyy caramba!
>>18588260They are brainwashed into thinking that everything they don't like is Communism and Communism always fails anyway, so they see that China has been successful and the cognitive dissonance is too much to bear so they come up with /pol/tarded explanations like ''uh China is actually fascist just like me!''
>>18588357The legitimate government of China has been three times more successful with a fraction of the body count, sis.
>>18588406How can the government that lost control of China be the legitimate government? Use your brain
>>18588211>Can you elaborate?I think it's about ideology. Italian fascism had a unique and distinct ideology, beliefs about why they were doing what they were doing, what it was all for, and what their ultimate goals were. It was not "let's just do class collaboration" or "have a single-party state." There have been a lot of single-party states.>They're the same thing.Not exactly. There are Chinese state institutions which are formally not party institutions but the party exercises control over them. The Italian fascist state didn't quite work like that.
>>18588417It's called a Rump State sweetie
>>18587035I would much rather live in modern italy than modern china.
>>18588438Aka larping
So what you got understand, for leftist mutants, their only real interest in “politics” is the opportunity to humiliate and brutalize non-mutants. The rest is just cant and buzzwords. So while digging through every sociopathic failure of a revolution of the 20th century, they eventually come across the Cultural Revolution, and it makes their ladystick twitch. Basically anyone who isn’t a loser is a target, and logic itself is considered bourgeois. Shit so hot they are basically coming in their hello kitty panties. Whether or not it was actually good for the Chinese people is entirely immaterial - it’s a perfect example of everything they want to do locally. So now, despite having a side by side, irl example of the effects of their extraneous ideology, it just washes over them. ”Communism” itself was never the point.
>>18588203>Post Mao China is practicing National Socialismthen why does pol hate china?
>>18588092Because they're Chinese? Taiwan doesn't have an open door policy for Chinese to move there.
>>18588438Rump states are the definition of failure. When you lose 95% of your land and people and flee your capital and never return there's no ifs ands buts.
>>18588449>Taiwan doesn't have an open door policy for Chinese to move there.I'm sure Taiwan which is trying to attract Indian labor right now won't let an American PhD grad in to found a startup currently valued at over 30 billion after 3 years of existence.
>>18587035China peacefully rose to a position of hegemony, Mussolini never saw a war he didn't get involved in
>>18588604You seem pretty dumb. Taiwan has extremely high wages, which of course capitalists want to depress by importing jeets. This is also why for a capitalist looking to start a new company, moving to red China is more attractive - you can pay your workers a third of the wages of Taiwan.
China is a hellhole and the bright bug minds pushing for it's technological dominance and wageslaving for it's export driven economy are just ants with no idea of who they are supporting in the CCP
>>18587970>Retarded Germbabble Back to work, Hans
>>18587035China expresses the accelerationary spirit
ur not white shitalian
Fascism is inherently deeply militaristic and dictatorial. You can't reduce it to just corporatism.
>>18588751>This is also why for a capitalist looking to start a new company, moving to red China is more attractive - you can pay your workers a third of the wages of Taiwan.No it's because there's actual AI talent in China whereas Taiwan is fully specialized in chips and doesn't actually know what to do with them after making them.If a "capitalist" (dumb meaningless term) just wants cheap labor he should move to North Korea since they provide the cheapest high-IQ labor by far, by your logic.
>>18588774>Noooooo please Chinamen stop starting businesses in your country please stop making reusable rockets stop making AI stop climbing up the value chain you don't know what's good for you I a foreign alien enemy know please listen to meLol
>>18589389Shut up Zhang, they are supporting a totalitarian 1984 regime
>>18589438China AI: open weight, free for anyone to useUSA AI: closed, subscription model only, will refuse to do what you ask and lecture you insteadWho is open, who is control freak?
>>18589464ask Chinese model about Tiananmen Square or dictator for life Xi Jinping, when will people vote the next elections, also I really hope you are posting from Beijing, Hong Kong people, Uyghur people, Tibetan people, all would love to secceed from that totalitarian shithole, but since you want to live there, go right ahead
>>18589677Since it's an open weight model it can be post trained to learn about all that, and you can run it in a closed environment on hardware that you own or otherwise trust.All models are biased including fable, sol and grok, the difference you can never modify them yourself.
>>18589677>but since you want to live there, go right aheadYes, he did just that >>18588092
>>18589677You're talking to a legitimate schizo by the way. He has this weird delusion that he used AI to program and has absolutely nothing to show for it.
>>18587035>China is now outperforming America in every aspect
>>18589920
>>18589847There is a phrase in Chinese called playing a piano to a cow. The cow won't understand a masterful rendition of Chopin - she will think it's noise.Explaining AI capabilities to luddites is like that. You can show them AI can build entire businesses now and they will shrug it off. You can show them an app or webpage and they will say it's like customizing their PSP interface. These people are commonly found on places like reddit and the C++ and rust committees.
>>18589927You thought Chinese unicode characters made LLMs run more efficiently lmao. You're actually retarded
>>18589939I didn't, I pointed out Chinese language happens to be one of the more token efficient languages, which it is. I also pointed out the Chinese people who are at the forefront of AI development probably aren't going to change their spoken language because some idiot on 4chan who also happens to be a retarded luddite thinks they should. This caused a lot of seethe.
>Chinese people who are at the forefront of AI development
>>18589945Correct
>>18589953UH OH!
>>18589945China permanently surpassed America in video generation AI with Seedance 2.0 and Sam Altman had to shut down sora out of embarrassment.
>>18588028>China is the second most populous country in the world and its economy still trails behind a country with less than a third of its populationYes, and that's not a coincidence, because the larger your population, the more difficult it is to raise your gdp per capita.
>>18589955
>>18589956AI "art" is probably the worst possible metric to be a leader in
>>18589963Seething luddite or seething Hollywood pedo which is it?https://youtu.be/L1CGUv-nXlE?is=4BZ2U_2f0J_QIltw
>find source of changs image>the only metric Chinese models are leaders in is webdevWhy do the Chinese lie so much bros?https://arena.ai/leaderboard
>>18589969Don't forget gamedevhttps://youtu.be/0eXdjlTXkaw?is=zHjpiHFeeOR88C8i
>Point out Chinese AI is at the frontier/forefront>Posts benchmark and video examples>Umm ok but that's just one category!Lol
>>18589968There's not advantages to using AI to make art. For one thing you can't claim copyright ownership of AI generated works and for another thing in order to make AI generate the type of artwork you want requires a significant amount of prompt engineering which eliminates the point of using AI as a force multiplier to begin with since at that point you're better off just making it yourself. I understand AI has its uses in programming and task automation but art is not a good selling point for the technology. This is embarrassing and desperate
>>18589963I remember when openAI unveiled sora in 2024, many people started saying China will never catch up to this, this is what America is capable of etc.Then China came out with kling before sora even released. Then hunyuan and minimax. And then seedance. And then Sam Altman shut down sora. What happened?
>>18589980>many people started saying China will never catch up to this, this is what America is capable of etc.Nobody has ever said this about AI even once anon. Take your meds
>>18589977Kimi k3 has fable levels of coding but at 1/10 of the cost. It even costs less than gpt 5.6 sol while outperforming it. Finally it has no safeguards so it can actually do what you tell it to, which is why it was able to solve internet security bugs that fable refused.
> Finally it has no safeguards so it can actually do what you tell it to, which is why it was able to solve internet security bugs that fable refused.
>>18589981Haha, I remember distinctly especially from the 1450 Taiwan cyber army. This was even the general public's attitude before deepseek r1 came out.
>>18589986From the Trump administration's AI advisorhttps://xcancel.com/DavidSacks/status/2078984980588531855#m
>>18589969He's mentally ill
>>18589994I think being anti-AI, being in denial of AI capabilities, or being in denial about China AI capabilities, should count as mental illnessYou keep getting BTFO in this thread btw, doesn't it get tiring?
>>18589996Sorry my guy but China is objectively not an AI leader in most respects according to your own standards, no amount of gaslighting or spamming jpegs is going to change that
>>18589999Just outright in denial now
>>18589377>militaristic>dictatorial
>>18589999 (checked)
>>18590000https://arena.ai/leaderboardThis was the website you used is it not? Funny how I don't see Chinese models in the top 3
>>18590002Sorry but it got debunked >>18590000
>>18590009You literally debunked yourself lmao
>>18590007I can clearly see k3 at the top in webdev and near the top in most other rankings
>>18590011Meds, schizo
>>18590012Your ass got humbled, face it bro you lost
>Posts how Kimi k3 can solve bugs that fable refuses to solve>Umm you're lying meds schizo meds meds schizo>Posts evidence>SilenceLolThis guy is getting BTFO so much it's laughable
How did this thread go from how italian fascism is good as proven by China to seething about Chinese AI?
>>18590016>Gets BTFO>Y-y-you l-lostWhat a subhuman lol
>>18590020You are on /pol/ 2.0, what do you exspect?
Wumao aren't sending their best it seems
>>18590020>seething about Chinese AI?People who are used to China not having any technology are finding it very hard to adjust to a world where they are at the frontier in multiple areas. The changing world is literally hard on them to reason about.
>>18590020This guy is a legitimate schizophrenic and completely derailed another thread with Chinese AI and rockets for literally no reason. He claims to be an AI programmer too.
>>18590023Not an argument saar
>>18590027>He claims to be an AI programmer too.I work in big tech and make more than you and the other seething NEETs and humanitiescels in this board. Sorry it makes you seethe!
>>18590020I think it's the chinkspammer but he found a new niche to ruin threads with instead of Japanese war crimes
>>18590034That guy ain't me he still posts with wikipedia citations kek
It's hard to argue about China when you're a seething aging millennial/gen X whose brain literally cannot catch up to the new reality where China is at par or ahead in numerous technology fields. Past some point people's brains crystallize and this is the best proof. Even though they won't realize it whenever they think about China they think about it like it's the 1990s and are shocked each time they are presented with a modern day fact.
>>18590032>I work in big tech and make more than youNo you don't, if you did you'd have better things to do than derail threads on here and call people luddites. This is peak unemployed behavior
>>18590039Lol we have the most free time dude this isn't a McDonald's worker shiftI'm waiting for PR approvals
>>18590039He's employed by the 50 Cent army and they started utilizing AI more in their propaganda/rhetoric
>>18590047Sorry I get to shitpost on 4chan at work while unemployed humanity majors seethe at me
>>18590047If I were a paid Chinese shill why wouldn't I talk about AI? Since it's one of the areas where China is utterly mogging the former developed world (EU, Japan)
Being anti-AI isn't luddism, it's Technoskepticism, AI shills want you to think that not wanting chat bots to strip people of their agency is the same as wanting to live in a cave. Although I think it's funny that this rhetoric is coming from a Wumao of all people because Ned Ludd was more or less a socialist of his day
>>18590058>not wanting chat bots to strip people of their agencyNobody wants this. This is a strawman argument.
