why does this race cause instant seething, confusion and controversy from pretty much everyone?
>>18587588Every single modern nation state in the Americas and arguably the modern world as a whole was built upon their brutal subjugation, so shitting on them is unironically a top priority to morally justify our current existence
>>18587588They do? They pretty much keep to themselves.
>not Indian, not asian>2 continents full of cannibal savages>we wuz living in harmony with nature and shieeet>kill adult settlers, raise the boys as sons, rape the lolis>lives off mouthwash and gibs>why do all our women go missing? fuck off wypipo we can (not) police ourselves >Heya howa
>>18587588AMERINDIANS DO NOT CONSTITUTE A RACE; THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN «AMERINDIAN RACE».
>>18588454injuns are real, "cum genius"
>>18588543THERE ARE MULTIPLE AMERINDIAN ETHNICITIES, BUT THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS AN «AMERINDIAN RACE».THERE ARE THREE HUMAN RACES: ARYANID, CROMAGNID, NEANDERTHALID; THERE ARE ARYANID AMERINDIANS, CROMAGNID AMERINDIANS, NEANDERTHALID AMERINDIANS.
>>18587588For the same reason israelis shit on palestinians, their entire identity and justification for existing is built on scapegoating and demonizing palestinians
>>18587795They're unironically an extremely overhated race, like the peak of their genocide happened centuries ago and they're still recovering from it, they barely have any institutional power except for countries like Bolivia, basically nonexistant soft power and also not a significanr population yet most comment sections about them are filled with extreme hate, people pushing narratives justifying genocide, or just wewuzzing as them to justify non-natives living in the americas today
>>18587588Justifications revisions and denial of the mistreatment of natives in colonial states in the Americas like it wasn’t just empire building>we HAD to colonize them and they were barbarians and needed to be “civilized” into forced labor and have their resources extracted Pretty common apologetics
Because of profiles like this one.
>>18589204almost based desu but it's too passive and you're left with a different problem. Indigenous languages are dying, there's no time to waste. If it were up to me, I'd send out a questionnaire to all citizens of the country "are you Spaniard or Indigenous?" and those who choose the former are subject to a firing squad. From now on anyone who claims Spaniard identity chooses death. The goal isn't to kill large amounts of people, it's to make Spanish identity impossible, so the social forces impeding indigenous revival are gone, and immediate progress can be made.
>>18589195You forgot the "chinks or muslims arriving in the americas would've been six gorillion times worse" line
>>18589204Literally the first pro-amerindian ethno nationalist profile I've seen in the wild, based as fuck
>>18587795 You don't hear much about the subjugation and destruction of old cultures in North Africa, the Levant, Central Asia, Siberia, China, or among non Bantu pre colonial African peoples. Because no one focuses on historical guilt the way many White Americans do
>>18589247>>18589247I haven’t really seen people use that one do they really think the Chinese or Arabs would actually colonize the Americas
>>18589303>old cultureskeyword culture, those were cultural displacements, not racial AND cultural displacements like what happened in the americas, polynesia and australia
>>18588436>not Indian, not asianThey are quiet literally just Asians with bigger noses. Your typical 32andMe can't even really tell those two apart and has to put them in a common category.
>>18589310>not racial AND cultural displacementsHow do we know that? Who knows how many Indigenous groups were wiped out when entire once influential cultures disappeared
>>18589320""""wiped out"""" and it's just an adjacent ethnicity conquering then assimilating another adjancent ethnicity like romans """"wiping out"""" carthaginians even doe both were brown meds with similar cultures whose lineages still survive today, I'll take that any day over being actually wiped out by a completely foreign race
>>18589328>both brown>similar culturesOther than both having a civilization, their cultures were wildly different. Romans were a land warrior Indo-European culture. Carthaginians had a maritime merchant Semitic culture. Practically opposites.
>>18589204i didn't do any of thati'm from finland
>>18589360It’s just some fag larping anyway
>>18589303Those were not really genocides per-say and also not really in recent historical memory. The example you see in the Spanish conquests is more akin to what you typically see in the old world. Incoming elites positioning themselves as elites, subjugating locals accompanied by varying degrees of mixture and assimilation of locals. Meso and South American cultures also already already had organized Imperial structures so it was in large part simply a matter of imposing themselves on top and extracting tribute. they didnt have incentive to wipe them out but rather keep them around to exploit them for manpower, tribute, food production. the english migration was much more of a demographic settlement project where they sought to recreate their old world societies. the environment was a totally different landscape, instead of pre-colonial, centralized states, it was a more decentralized frontier of various native groups, no pre-existing state apparatus to inherit and tax. the english were also more interested in acquiring land to build homesteads, and had little need for using indigenous labor for which they had indentured servants and west african slaves . The local natives were not peasants to exploit as with the spanish but competing landholders and so it was a true state-sponsored ethnic-cleansing in that case. To be clear, I'm not a libtard saying hurr durr whites were more evil. They enjoyed unique advantages and incentives, any other civilization given the same incentives and capacity, would have done the same or probably worse and less guilt desu.
>>18589358meds are all brown and carthaginians were actually more related to modern sicilians than any semitic group, but that's irrelevant anyways because semites and meds are basically the same
>>18589304Those guys tend to be videogame-brained motherfuckers who think history is some structured game of EU4 in which every society on earth is subconsciously building towards the goal of becoming a colonial power and eventually creating the world as it exists today from the moment they ariseI mean, the chinks didn't even colonize Taiwan until after europeans started doing it and infamously gave up on even sending large scale trading missions to south and southeast asia right next door, why the fuck would they even colonize the Americas in the European style in the first place, let alone in a particularly genocidal manner?
>>18589450Yeah the Chinese and Arabs already had their own empire already to worry about where the European colonizers were made empires through their colonization
>>18589304> do they really think the Chinese or Arabs would actually colonize the AmericasNot necessarily, the implication is that whypipo are actually the most moral and merciful of all races and that the injuns should be grateful that the europeans were the ones who got in a position to conquer the Americas instead of the inhuman sociopathic east asians and the stupid barbaric arabs, who in their minds would surely have just wiped them out from the face of the earth without hesitation. They probably don't genuinely believe that either of those societies COULD have gotten to the americas, but that's not the point of the argument
>>18589461Most of Central America and parts of South America still have large Indigenous populations. North America was more sparsely populated, and after European diseases and large scale settlement, its population changed dramatically. If Arabs or Chinese had arrived first to colonize or conquer the region, a similar process probably would have happened, many Indigenous people would likely have died from disease or war, while many would have been assimilated and converted in some areas or replaced by settlers in others. It is also possible that today very few people would know much about the original Indigenous cultures
>>18589503And then you come across the problem presented here >>18589450What makes you think that the chinese or the arabs would even want to engage in large scale settler colonialism in the first place instead of just partaking in trade and diplomacy as they both did with the societies of Taiwan and southeast Asia? And if they did, what makes you think they'd be more brutal than europeans to the point "few people would know much about the original Indigenous cultures"?
>>18587588he has a great physique, modern diets and sedentary lifestyles took this from us...
>>18589461This is true though, if Arabs had reached the Americas first there would be literally zero remnants of Amerindian civilization left. See the total erasure of pre-Islamic Arabia for example.
>>18589639Yeah, much like how there are no traces of pre-islamic civilizations in India and Indonesia
>>18589601Islam spread in more violent ways than just "trade and diplomacy". Do you think modern China grew to control what it does now by just "trade and diplomacy"? Europeans crossed oceans to do what the "traditional" land empires of Eurasia had been doing for a millenia, somehow this ocean crossing makes it uniquely "evil" lol
>gets shitfaced wasted and blames whitey for all their problems despite getting free Healthcare, free college, free tribal dividends just for existing >muh native rights to kill whales like muh ancestors in aluminum boats with diesel engines and guns
>>18589730>Islam spread in more violent ways than just "trade and diplomacy". In the places immediately adjacent to them in the earliest years of muslim expansion maybe, but obviously not overseas like in maritime Southeast Asia.>Do you think modern China grew to control what it does now by just "trade and diplomacy"? They came to control most of what they have now because they themselves ended up as one of the many peoples conquered by the manchus, whose borders they inherited. Before that, the closest the Han Chinese ever got to colonization was the expansion of chinese civilization towards what is now southern china, and even that was probably more of a matter of cultural assimilation than genocide. Like i said, they didn't even conquer Taiwan until after europeans established a presence there, and were infamously dismissive of the idea of financing huge trade expeditions to South and Southeast Asia, so why would they ever get the idea of sending settlers to some continent across the sea?
>>18589639There's plenty of pre-Islamic ruins in arab countries today, also why are you acting like the spanish moor rapebabies didn't destroy quite literally every single amerindian city or building that was still in use? The only precolumbian ruins that remain standing today were either abandoned for centuries or millennia and consumed by nature (eg: tikal) or were so remote and difficult to access that they were preserved (eg: machu picchu)
>>18589601Hypothetically, because they had empires earlier than Western Europe and presumably advanced navies during the medieval period. But, of course, they still were not close to the European level of navigation, exploration, and warfare skills.>trade and diplomacy This has happened all the time
