>>18587709
How can anyone believe in creationism in 2026? There's literally ZERO evidence for it being true outside of the "holy books" that claim it is.

I mean... evolution as a process exists, organisms (homeostatis particularly) adapt to environment to fulfill their needs

The problem is when you confuse process with progress and intertwine them. Theres many recipes for dishes but at the end of the day their purpose is give you nutrients.

>>18587721
>muh evidence
Learn what a logical syllogism is dipshit. If everything happens by accident then nothing can have purpose. If evolution is true then your argument has no purpose, it's an action that occurred by accident.

>>18587752
>"I have no evidence for my position other than mental gymnastics derived from a loose appreciation of this fancy term I learned"
I accept your concession

>>18587742
No that's not evolution. That's like saying that we sweat when we get hot therefore that's proof of evolution. Evolution is the transformation of a being to a different being.

>>18587758
Youre not an authority, shut the fuck up

>>18587754
>asserting something means it's true yet deductive reasoning is mental gymnastics.
Yeah you're mentally retarded. Wait until this retard learns the logical method scientists use to get to their scientific theories.

>>18587767
Again, your concession remains accepted.

>>18587760
So apparently I need to be an authority for something to be true. Pure retardation.

>>18587769
You have no argument or anything whatsoever backing up your bullshit. Stop shitting up the board with your bullshit.

>>18587768
You conceded that you don't know how scientists arrive at their scientific theories. It's ironic how a fuckwit like you argues against something as having no "proof" yet you don't understand what you're defending.

>>18587770
>appeal to authority fallacy
You're saying I have no argument while making the most obvious fallacy one could make in an argument. You are the one shitting the board you brainlet.

>>18587776
A 5 second google search shows that my definition of evolution is correct snd yours is nothing but mindless trolling, youre a dumbass incapable of doing any real trolling

>>18587780
>muh I searched something up and it told me it's true therefore it must be true.
How do people like this exist. kek

>>18587782
I know, right? You spend day after day geting pounded on this board and i know you dont have anything else going on with your life at all hahaahahahahah

But keep on trolling us, buddy. Laughs are being had.

>>18587709
Jimbob thinks the earth is flat

>>18587780
And someone could have being told by God himself that he is true. So by your logic God is true.

>>18587786
>And someone could have being told by God himself that he is true.
What?

Lol

Youre that burma retard who got humiliated because he cant do past-present tense?? Lmao

What a pitiful existence. Many such cases, sad!

It's even funnier because evolutiontards don't actually believe anything is true but an accident so everything they're doing right now is an accident. Right and wrong does not exist. Their arguments are all accidents, nothing they say is true according to their own scientific theory.

>>18587709
>If the mind is the brain, that means thoughts are like a fart

>>18587790
No their arguments are not accidents
Evolution isn't true, none of what you said is actually the case in reality

This is an internal critique of a made-up hypothetical scenario. Who cares?

>>18587833
>Evolution isn't true
Yes it is

>>18587709
How old is the Earth, OP?

>>18587964
Why would I need to know the age of the earth? I hope you don't claim you know it.

>>18587709
>b-but desert schizo from 3000 years ago wrote about noah's ark!!

Christkeks will always be more retarded

>>18588099
>it's schizo because it doesn't fall into my world view.
Ironic considering your worldview doesn't give inherent meaning to anything therefore what you're saying is incoherent and nonsensical and has no meaning. If you're able to read and understand this then you just made yourself look like a complete retard.

>>18588085
Do you think is closer to 6000 or 6 million?

>>18588119
Who teaches you to say this nonsense?

>>18588155
How do you know how to respond if there's no order in your mind?

>>18588151
I don't know since I haven't measured. I hope you're not implying that you know the age of the earth.

>>18588119
>meaning cannot be constructed, it must be inherent
immediately debunked when you remember that you are speaking language, a series of arbitrary sounds made up by humans with assigned meaning meant to communicate perceptions and ideas.

>>18588176
Non-responsive.

>>18587709
Because they can't do basic math.

>>18588183
Lol... are you saying that theres humans that have considered things meaningless? Meaning IS part of our existence as humans. Our brain creates narratives according to chemicals and viceversa. Meaning is inherent to life, retard.

This is the only time where saying that reality is meaningless is seen as "normal"... yet again, this is the only era where dying of hunger not caused by famine is also a normal thing. Or where dumb ass people like you dont get slapped around for saying stupid shit all the time... guess were not so bad after all.

>>18587721
The King James Bible is the strongest evidence there is.

>>18587709
It is motivated reasoning, you see. They want to live like monkeys so they adopt a religious belief that tells them they are monkeys and that they are super smart for believing such nonsense.

>>18588176
That would only be the case if Atheism is true, which it isn't

>>18588193
>strongest evidence
>gets basic shit like what is the biggest seed to exist
nope sorry, I know daddy beat into being a tard but your book is wrong

>>18588187
>Non-responsive
So why did you respond retard?

>>18588192
>Meaning IS part of our existence as humans.
And what's our meaning then genius?

>>18588226
God presides in the great assembly;
he renders judgment among the “gods”:

2 “How long will you[a] defend the unjust
and show partiality to the wicked?[b]
3 Defend the weak and the fatherless;
uphold the cause of the poor and the oppressed.
4 Rescue the weak and the needy;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.

5 “The ‘gods’ know nothing, they understand nothing.
They walk about in darkness;
all the foundations of the earth are shaken.

6 “I said, ‘You are “gods”;
you are all sons of the Most High.’
7 But you will die like mere mortals;
you will fall like every other ruler.”

8 Rise up, O God, judge the earth,
for all the nations are your inheritance.

>>18588201
I was arguing against evolution not against atheism you dumbass. If you actually watched the YouTube video and didn't have the attention span of a fly you'd find out that there's Christians that stand by the theory of evolution.

>>18588235
>How do you know how to respond if there's no order in your mind?
What makes this true?

>>18588192
really living up to your name. This entire post is incoherent

>>18588262
Earliest records are of abstract stuff: drawings on walls - funerary places

Youre just an ignorant retard who doesnt know shit about anything and speaks about everything.

>>18588265
yeah, that's crazy man, all human thoughts emanate from the platonic world of ideas, and all language has inherent meaning which flows from the platonic forms (truth is of one nature, of course), which is why there's only one language in the whole world and all humans speak it fluently from birth without having to be taught how to read and write. No human has ever arbitrarily just made up a word and decided that it means XYZ, words are deduced from the careful study of the platonic forms.

>>18588278
Lol

Language develops because humans need to transmit MEANING

Dumbass

>>18588278
>which is why there's only one language in the whole world and all humans speak it fluently
Jung called it collective consciousness

Does that depend on chemicals too? Lol

There’s this specific strain of American Protestants who got triggered by modernity in the late 19th and early 20th centuries. They’re still screaming about basic biology a century later. You’d think they’d be able to understand that science can’t disprove God, but they’re honestly really riled up about being mocked by some 2000’s atheist dipshit online.

>>18588287
There's no meaning being transmitted
Just humans trained in the use of language, talking

>>18588332
The first funerary rites were related to fire and the afterlife

That is purely meaning... but as ive said, youre just ignorant. This is basic history stuff, grade school.

>>18588287
So did the mouth and tongue develop before or after we started trying to talk when we were just a puddle of goo?

>>18588340
You think the tongue only serves a communication purpose?

You know senses are there for a reason... right? Youre so damn stupid, man. Do animals have a tongue to make sounds or to feel stuff? Are sounds a byproduct of their existence... or is it all part of nothing becoming something just because?

Or does it all point towards all creation having a purpose. Youre so retarded youve hit a limit for today.

>>18588346
You think a person can speak without a tongue and mouth? Try cutting your tongue off and stitching your lips together and see what happens. Also you said communicating, I said speaking. You can still communicate without your mouth and tongue you fuckwit. Wait til retard finds out about sign language or writing.

>>18587721
1. Everything is evidence of the masterful work of God 2. In particular, there are features of your own design which cannot be denied to have intent without absurdity, e.g. your eyes which you must most absurdly deny to have a purpose of seeing. This function must be pure random coincidence under evolutionism, which demands mockery rather than consideration. 3. The testimony of the holy scriptures, being the infallible word of God Himself, are the ultimate proof of any controversy, being true by definition.

If one's penis starts to feel more like a finger than a penis then what's the proof that it's not evolving into a finger? How many generations did it take for a non-penis to become into a penis? Did we just have a dangling object hanging off of our body until one day it started working? Like who fucking falls for this shit. kekkk

>>18588207
Proof the book is wrong?

>>18588501
Lol?. The word was meaning.

But you keep evading questions cause youre a dumbass. No more replies for you.

Retard thinks MEANING is a thing, like a cup. Just because we use a noun when talking about "it" in English language.

>>18588790
>MEANING is a thing, like a cup.
Lol?

For a mapuche, an araucaria is more than a tree. For a celt, an oak is more than some tree.

This is basic language stuff... MEANING, dumbass. Semiotic.

God, you guys are ignorant on everything... you dont know science, you don't know history, you don't know the basics of grammar and rethoric

Did you guys even study something?

>>18588795
When you talk about MEANING being transmitted by language, are you being highly metaphorical
Or just slightly metaphorical, like electricity being transmitted in a copper wire?

Do you think there's an actual thing being moved

>>18588845
>When you talk about MEANING being transmitted
9>>18588287
>Language develops because
>>18588192
>Lol... are you saying that theres humans that have considered things meaningless? Meaning IS part of our existence as humans. Our brain creates narratives according to chemicals and viceversa. Meaning is inherent to life, retard.
>>18588265
>Earliest records are of abstract stuff: drawings on walls - funerary places
>Youre just an ignorant retard who doesnt know shit

Buhbye

>>18588873
A funerary rite would transmit little MEANING to someone who has never been trained in the language of burrowing dead bodies and placing stone cairns on top of them

>>18588891
Then how come it appears everywhere and in distinct societies that had no communication with each other?

Are you seriously retarded, man???

I mean... im educated so I know youre not pretending and you're really asking these questions... did you even go to school??? Wo

>>18587709
Evolution is directly observed

>>18588894
Stone cairns have no inherent meaning

A man who have never seen a dead body being buried, would just find a pile of conveniently placed rocks

>>18588916
Sure thing buddy, whatever you say. Youre the one who knows about this... people who've written books and studied this? Charlatans not on your level.


Lol

>>18588924
Be explicit, what are you alluding to?
Is the claim that stone cairns have inherent meaning, even to people who know nothing about death, burial, funerary rites, place markers or scavenging animals?

>>18588934
Uh huh

>>18587784
Lmao

>>18588936
Suppose I've never seen someone die

I come across a stone cairn
What MEANING does it transmit to me? By what mechanism? How is any of this supposed to work

Besides, this seems like an empirical question, we could actually test it
Bring a bunch of children, or people who have been raised in extremely insular environments, to a stone cairn and see what happens

>>18588948
>What MEANING does it transmit to me? By what mechanism? How is any of this supposed to work
>>18588192
>are you saying that theres humans that have considered things meaningless? Meaning IS part of our existence as humans. Our brain creates narratives according to chemicals and viceversa. Meaning is inherent to life, retard.
Youre not gonna get any new answer because I've already replied to anything and everything your small brain can come up with... this is like a 2nd grade kid thinking he can outwit the teacher.

Youre pathetic. This is your life, spending all day saying wrong shit on an imageboard... no time dedicated to study, no time dedicated to work, no time dedicated to anything meaningful.

No wonder you think meaning doesnt exist... even koko the gorilla learnt sign language to transmit meaning but here we have anon... who's incapable of things animals are. Lol... what a genius.

No wonder atheism is the norm, theyre the simile of a centinel island person with internet access...

But desu that would demean the centinel island person, for theyre able to sustain themselves off earth. Youd be dead within a couple of hours if let out in nature. Lol

>>18588960
>>18588957
Focus on the stone cairn
What meaning does it transmit to someone ignorant of death and burial rites? How does it do that?

>>18588963
lol

Life after death, dumbass.

>>18588963
>How does it do that?
Painting are a bunch of scribbles put together but people have managed to open their minds through things like the meninas of velasquez

See how retarded you are? Right in this very moment youre obtaining meaning from a bunch of random scribbles. You say its "your" computer, "your" "family"... everything is embedded in meaning because that is part of being a human

God, how could someone made in your likeness be so goddamned stupid???

>>18588099
>b-but freemason schizo from 200 years ago wrote about the origin of species!!

Evolutionkeks will always be more retarded.

>>18588900
Have you ever seen a monkey turn into a human?

>>18589151
I accept your concession

>>18587752
>If everything happens by accident then nothing can have purpose. If evolution is true then your argument has no purpose, it's an action that occurred by accident.
Sophistry and non sequitur. You're just too stupid to see purpose without Jewish sky daddy because you're a subhuman slave

>>18587721
fpbp

>>18587709
I believe in the one true God the Most High who is in Heaven above us and His son Jesus Christ who died on the Cross for our sins and rose from the grave after three days and anyone who doesn't believe in Him shall be cast into the Lake of Fire to suffer for Eternity during the End of Days where He shall return and Judge us please pray for all believers who are children of God and He came to bring not Peace but a Sword for He is the Way, the Truth, and the Life in the Name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit AMEN

>>18588972
>Right in this very moment youre obtaining meaning from a bunch of random scribbles.
I have been trained in the use of English language, letter are not random, but neither do they hold inherent meaning
Letters are meaningful to me, because I've been taught English

The scribbles on your screen would not transmit meaning to a Sentinel Islander

>>18589645
The meaning you attribute to everything is a creation you simply accept as inherent part of reality for you cabnot stop your brain from functioning, dumbass

Do you realize? The diffegence between humans and animals is that humans are schizos who validated their hallucinations to the point of imposing them on the whole world and passing it down as if it were something normal.

Concepts such a "you" are something not natural... do animals recognize themselves as an individual when they see their reflection? The idea of an identity is in itself an acceptance of meaning, which ive repeated time and again... is intrinsic of existence


Time and again with the same shit said in different ways, are you really so stupid that you cant comprehend such a simple concept?

The only people who still believe in Christianity are browns and illiterate third worlders

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The human brain is made to process meaning... you are born in a delta state and at young age you move out of it but the foundation is laid there.

>>18589664
so please tell me from what physical realm does objective meaning emanate? Is it the platonic world of forms? Are you a platonist?

>>18589698
>so please tell me from what physical realm does objective meaning emanate?
God, youre so stupid. Did you even read the thread? Ill give you a taste just to show you how stupid you are, less than 5 minutes ago i posted this:
>>18589654
>humans are schizos who validated their hallucinations

Youre an absolute dumbass incapable of even having a coherent conversation let alone debate someone.

>>18589705
so you concede that meaning is invented by humans, or "self-validated schizophrenic hallucinations," as you put it?

Youre not plant nor mineral... so youre an animal. A literal animal who hears voices in his head and called that "consciousness".

First it began by assigning a sound combination to specific things (i.e. "naming" animals) and now it has evolved to the point where we have empowered wastes of oxygen like you trying to say where these voices come from... whewlad

>>18589711
The first point is recognizing that meaning is inherent to existence.

Whether you want to acknowledge the deeper meaning we've found through that (science, math, etc) or simply deny it all as meaningless is not my problem. As I've told you, I have a happy life and im not an ignorant loser who displays his ignorance in everything on some imageboard

>>18589721
>The first point is recognizing that meaning is inherent to existence.
word salad. The word meaning defines arbitrary symbols which are used to express thoughts regarding the underlying substance of a thing.
Something which is inherent is a necessary and inseparable quality of a thing.
Existence is the negation of nonexistence, or nothingness.
What you are saying is that encoding observations regarding the substance of a thing using arbitrary symbols is a necessary and inseparable quality of existing, which is obviously not the case considering lots of things exist and don't encode meaning via language.

>>18589740
>word salad
Lol

I accept your concession