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I know that the Mayans knew how to make rubber balls, and the Europeans didn't. What else?
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Maybe OP wasn't aware that rubber trees didn't exist in Europe.
Like, oh wow they knew how to make chocolate and tomatoes too.
Not to mention llamas.

Europe BTFO!!
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>>18588117
Latex is not produced only by trees. One example is the Taraxacum kok-saghyz.
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The numbers zero.
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>>18588117
These are good point anon, I agree, Euos are BTFO, can you believe Italy couldn't into tomato sauce?
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>>18588117
True
That being said, the natives did know how to vulcanize rubber, something that europeans couldn't really figure out until the 19th century, so OP is technically still correct
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>>18588228
Europeans discovered vulcanization in 300 years while the natives took 14 000 years.
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I'll try to make a larger list tomorrow, but an interesting potential one is that the Mesoamericans might have invented paper around the same time as or before China

As far as I can tell, both seem to have done it around 100BC to 100AD, unless I'm missing something?
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When you say European how old are we going?

Gravettian culture their agricultural technology predates Natufian by 10k years. They domesticated dogs at least twice 33k years ago. First hot smelting metallurgy 8.5k years ago Vinca culture, and first two story homes, and first written language and yes Vinca script will be upgraded from proto-writing soon the academia is slow. First concrete Iron Gates culture. There are a lot of European firsts. First multi-ton architecture is 35k years ago Gravettian. First boomerang 40k years ago early Gravettian. First lunar notation I believe is also Gravettian.
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>>18588109
>people with access to rubber make thinks out of rubber while people in a place with no rubber trees don't
Fascinating observation.
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Amazonians knew how to make highly fertile black earth as Amazonian soil was garbage but they all apocalyptically collapsed into hunter-gatherers after the first European passed by.
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>>18588109
>things the Indigenous people knew how to do and the Europeans did not.
Bathing.
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>>18588552
we wuz

>>18588117
>europeans couldnt domesticate rubber because geography
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>>18588669
>Bathing.

>Europeans didn't bath and shieeet

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stabian_Baths

https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balneario_de_Archena

Are you USAian?
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>>18588109
Coffee
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>>18588117
It's always fun how /pol/-tards suddenly become aware of geography and environment when the comparison is unfavorable to whites
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>>18588728
Also first advanced art. Gravettian art is so advanced it is still controversial. First musical instruments.
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Gravettians were also first to textiles. They were also the first cereal processors. Just learn about what was happening in Europe around the LGM they were ridiculously advanced.

Burial of two children dated 30k year ago with 13000 ivory beads. Each taking 1 hour to produce. 4 years if working 40h a week. The hunter gatherer narrative has been thoroughly thrown out.
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>>18588903
>>18588552
those were people who got replaced by EEF and Yamnaya, very little of them survive in europeans, vinca were eastern shifted eef brownoids. but i do agree these were advanced cultures, the HG narrative needs to be thrown out yes. its just I hope you arent being selective in understanding this only in the context of the european continent for an underhanded reason. HG societies throughout the world were quite complex indeed.
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>>18588928
>replaced
Wrong. And you are also wrong about the Yamnaya specifically who merged with the Indus Valley culture. You have all the retard talking points.
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>>18588552
Oh so europeans are WE WUZZIN now??
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>>18588828
I love coffee.
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>>18588828
Coffee's from eastern Africa, retard.
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>>18588999
lol Yamnaya never met IVC you retard.
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>>18588999
>You have all the retard talking points.
everything I said is correct and now it appears I pegged your motives correctly lol.
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>>18588109
Writing since it was independently invented in the americas but not europe
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>>18589347
also present in that pic, numeral systems were also independently invented in the americas unlike europe
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>>18589352
Including 0
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kek why are yts so dumb?
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>>18588117
>Like, oh wow they knew how to make chocolate and tomatoes too.
I mean that requires developing agriculture by your own which is something europeans didn't do either
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>>18589388
Good one.
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>>18589388
For the same reason.
Europe lacked the plants in both quantity and quality that made the transition from hunter-gatherer to agrarian possible in the regions that did develop agriculture independently.

Environmental determinism isn't wrong because all geography is equal. It's wrong because it's an attempt to explain European's success through geography despite Europe being average or below average by every metric that actually contributes to development.
If it was a true explanation for Europe, then why didn't Europeans develop agriculture using their superior native agricultural package?



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