How come china didnt conquer Japan if they had such good mariners and ships that even Portuguese were impressed with
Because most of Chinese history is fake and historically the coats near Japan was underdeveloped compared to the coasts along the South China Sea
>>18597244This. Those junks were literally deathtraps floating on water, hence the name. Dogshit vessels that would sink in blue waters.
umm..ackshully you're supposed to pronounce the name of the boats "Yoonks"
They didn't need to
Because they lacked aryan blood
>>18597237Why doesn't America conquer Cuba
>>18597237Once upon a time Kublai Khan sent a massive army to invade Japan. One lone samurai saw the fleet and realized Japan would be fucked if it landed. He got on his knees and prayed to his gods and anyone else listening. A giant tsunami came out of nowhere and dashed the entire fleet before it could land. Thus the invasion of Japan ended in failure.
>>18597237They did. The Yuan Dynasty tried to invade Japan twice and failed both times.
>>18597237They didn’t even conquer Taiwan until 1661, and it only happened after the whole mainland was occupied by barbarians while the emperor fled to myanmar
>>18597237They had a chance to do something with Zheng He, but the emperors didn't want it
>>18597237Most of the Chinese dynasties didn't give a shit about what would be a backwater to them. The Chinese heartland was much more prosperous and easier to control than some frontier where the people resented you and considered you the other. It's the same reason they didn't fully maintain control over the steppenigs and jungle asians of Vietnam and Cambodia. It was easier to collect tribute than rule an undeveloped region with less farmland and thus less taxes
>>18597237Kongsi republics was based as fuck and im tired of pretending otherwise
>>18597395They have https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guantanamo_Bay_detention_camp
>>18597899Same time frame.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H%E1%BB%93_Qu%C3%BD_Lyhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chen_Zuyi
They feared the Samurai.
Great way to bankrupt your dynasty.Japan was also lowkey poor
>>18597407>oncedidnt this actually happen twice?
>>18597499>barbarianskekpeople don't often refer to the dutch as barbarians
>>18599006Them samurai got slaughtered in Korea and are jobbers in general
In all seriousness, China felt like it was already at the center of the universe and wasn't interested in conquest just for conquest's sake. And as anyone who has studied Japan's resources can tell you, Japan was until very recently a shit place to try to conquer. Even if you win, congratulations. You won a bunch of rice paddies and nothing else.
>>18597260300 Junks
>>185972371. No incentive (japan was already a Chinese tributary state)2. Internal struggles3. Very expensive, overseas campaigns aren't cheap4. Strategically difficult, Japan is a mountainous island known to possess a civilization that can muster armies
>>18599602Japan was only briefly a tributary state of China before it very much decided it was its own separate empire with its own emperor. Since China demanded that all tributaries recognize the supremacy of the Chinese empire, the two didn't talk much after that, and in fact during the imjin war Toyotomi in Japan drew up plans to conquer Ming China along with the rest of Asia. During the a short lived truce the Chinese offered to recognize Toyotomi as king of Japan and a vassal of China, which caused Toyotomi to go apeshit and renew the war until his death in 1598
>>18599490Japanese doing fine on Korean peninsula until Yi meme cannon
>>18597596A lot of morons have Paradox brain>bro why didn't these rulers from a completely different era, culture, priorities, religious mindset, and state of affairs, with perfect hindsight, start those massive civilizations projects to fill these and these areas with the right colour pops
>>18599610If only Hideyoshi had gotten the Euro shipbuilding blueprint in 1586...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAoinrFMgQ0
>>18597237they had already achieved cultural victory in japanit was already a chinese colony and the japanese submitted willingly and enthusiastically. whatever the japanese could offer to the chinese, they got itinteresting how the japanese ended up doing the exact same with the united states centuries laternation of natural cucks
>>18599956All he had to do was convert to Christianity like his generals, but he wanted to keep his concubines
>>18597237Why bother, the administration had enough on their hands
Japan was always a poor backwater compared to china until the late 19th century.
>>18597254>hence the namekek. but are righr, they weren't suitable for deep sea.
>>18597237The Chinese definitely weren't the best mariners and boat builders in the region, those were in SEAWhat I find weird is that West didn't adopt the junk rig more. Sure, it happened to some degree (i.e. Lorchas), but it never really spread outside Asia before the modern era. It's a really good rig from what I understand.
>>18601543Even mr. modernizer himself, Emperor Meiji, kept his concubines, no way someone like Hideyoshi was going to give his up.
>>18602625He was just jealous https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bateren_Edict
>>18597237Because they couldn't. Setting aside the failure of the Mongol invasion and assuming the Chinese could launch a successful invasion, how would they hold it? Both the Japanese and whoever the Chinese sent to govern would know that any revolt or civil war would necessitate yet another difficult amphibious invasion to put it down. They'd break away again almost immediately.And what would the Chinese gain for the trouble? Japan was poor and had no resources that the Chinese wanted.
