Tyrant.Thief. Murderer.Dictator.
sorry cleetus but you're just going to have to pick your own cotton from now on
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>>18599999Witnessed.
>>18599999Hey, nobody forced the Confederates to fire on fort sumter. Had they simply stayed and rode out Lincoln's presidency, theyd have kept their slaves. But no. As Lincoln said in the 2nd inaugural, this was what had to happen, as God willed it.
>>18599999https://www.researchgate.net/publication/339518087_Determined_to_Suppress_Everything_Like_Free_Speech_Lincoln%27s_Private_Letters_Reveal_Aggressive_Use_of_Newspaper_Censorship
>>18600033Fort Sumter was South Carolina property that Lincoln's troops were squatting on. South Carolina was well within its rights to remove them.Nobody died.The first causalities were Lincoln's men killing protesters in Maryland.
>>18600133Another accident: Federalist troop died from gunpower explosion after ceremonial surrender.
>>18599999Lincoln dickriders can't refute this
>>18600133That assumes you have the right to secede. The war's outcome determined that you don't, any more than you had the right to keep slaves. But in the end, the abolition of slavery was the ends to justify all means.
>>18600154you lost tranny
>>18600007Razorfist did a whole video on the shit Lincoln did that people try to sweep under the rug. He similar to MLK jr. If he wasn't assassinated, and didn't have a PR campaign lionizing him. I doubt he would be remember as fondly as he was. (He didn't even free the slaves, he just try to weaponize them when he was losing and it didn't really work. Hints pushing the war crimes.)
>>18600033It was all a Jewish fake war like always.
People who want slaves are wimps and pussies who cant work their own land and who are also cheap heebs who wont pay decent wages for their fellow citizens to work their land.
>>18600133>Fort Sumter was South Carolina property It wasn't. South Carolina ceded the ownership of Fort Sumter and its land to the Federal Government in 1805 because it was costly for the state to maintain it.
>>18599999BasedBasedBasedAnd oh would you look at that! BASED!Southerners big mad. Mission accomplished.
>>18600384South Carolinan payed the taxes for construction.
>>18600253>/u/ mods joining 41%Yeah.
>>18600410>>18600357>redditoid>eslSign of a browns hand
>>18599999He sacrificed himself so that slavery could be lifted into constitutional status and preserved as the law of all lands controlled by the United States for another thousand years.Press f.
>>18600154>Lincoln dickriders can't refute thisBut he put down the Confederates like the rabid dogs they were, so it's all good.Confederates killed over 110,000 service members of the United States of America.Kill all Confederate apologists.Kill them.
>>18600689>>18600253DC bootlickers gonna zoom zoom
>>186006811000 year? America already Zog states after both world war.
>>18600615No it was financed by the federal government which by that point in time received most of its income through import tariffs.
>>18600816>NoWhich fund by same South Carolina government
>>18599999And somehow still the lesser of two evils.
>>18599999Holy numbers..
>>18599999How Honest Abe really felt about Christianity:"My earlier views of the unsoundness of the Christian scheme of salvation and the human origin of the scriptures have become clearer and stronger with advancing years, and I see no reason for thinking I shall ever change them." ~ 1862 letter from Abraham Lincoln to Judge J.S. Wakefield, after the death of Willie Lincoln
>>18599999Lincoln, nor the majority of the people in the North cared about the wellbeing of slaves, which motivated them to oppose the westward expansion of slavery. Their opposition toward westward expansion was simply to keep blacks out of the new territories. Those territories were reserved for white settlers and Northern business interests. Probably most importantly, whoever controlled this new territory, added more representation in Congress. “The whole nation is interested that the best use shall be made of these territories. We want them for the homes of free white people. This they cannot be, to any considerable extent, if slavery shall be planted within them.”~Abraham Lincoln, “Speech at Peoria, Illinois,” October 16, 1854The War of Northern Aggression was about raping state rights, tariffs, and forming a dictatorship. One we still live under to this day.>These United Statesprior to his war>The United Statesafter.The Union was voluntary.
Preserving the union did not justify ending slavery. Ending slavery justified preserving the Union. This was what Lincoln sagely realized by the wars end, and what the abolitionists had said all along. The war was a test to see if the nation could redeem itself for the contradiction of all men being created equal yet owning one another as slaves. This is why Lincoln would not let freed slaves kneel to him. He merely saw himself as the instrument of the greater forces that drive history.I do not hate the south for trying to secede. In fact, had they not tried, slavery wouldn't have been abolished, only perhaps restricted. From the blood and fire of war emerged a union purged or slavery. That alone is enough to justify everything else.
>>18600033>confederates fire on a fort>lincoln takes the opportunity to kill 700,000 AmericansYou have to admit that is fucking psychotic.
>>18600224That’s retarded. Every other country in the hemisphere got rid of slavery without killing 700,000 people. Lincoln was just an awful person. And remember the states he kept in the union are last in everything, making it even worse.
>>18600615If you build a house and sell it is it still your house?
>>18600825The vast majority of import tariffs was generated in northern ports.
>>18601118You can’t have soldiers in someone else’s territory without their permission
>>18601110Lincoln gave the Confederates many off ramps. The Confederates could keep their slaves until 1900 if they surrendered in 1862. The Confederates could receive compensation for their freed slaves if they laid down arms in 1865. Yet each time, the secessionists hearts were hardened, and so total defeat became the natural and just outcome. It is like a Disney movie when the hero gives the defeated villain a chance to walk away, but the villain, unwilling to accept defeat, launches one last desperate attack but only seals his fate in the process
>>18601116>Every other country in the hemisphere got rid of slavery without killing 700,000 people. Lincoln was just an awful personWhy are you blaming Lincoln and not the states that seceded and enshrined slavery in their constitutions
>>18601123Fort Sumter was federal territory because South Carolina sold the land, are you following?
>>18599999Big Ape wants his tariff muneh
>>18601094yeah, heres what really happened>US maps out the West more>northerners want to move out West>Big Railroad wants northerners to take the train out west>"but, how can we compete against businesses that use slavery out west?">Douglas and Lincoln endlessly debate if slavery needs to be outlawed for northerners to get jobs>abolitionist faggots constantly screeching in the background during this. (John Brown himself was a rich nepo baby)>Big Railroad backs Lincoln. and the rest is history.
>>18601145You say rich nepo baby as if John Brown didn’t give up everything for the cause he believed in
>>18599999Abraham Lincoln invaded another country in what was NOT a Civil War. The Confederacy was not a rag-tag guerrilla operation nor a military dictatorship. It was an organized confederation that followed Constitutional procedures in seceding from the Union just as the New England states had done to varying degrees five times throughout the years. In the South, state conventions were held and the public chose to leave the Union. This was no military coup led by a dictator. Jefferson Davis was elected in a democratic process. A Congress was also elected and foreign diplomats were sent abroad who secured “belligerent nation” status from England. The Confederacy was not seeking to take over Washington or invade the North and it offered to compensate the government for forts within its territory and to pay its share of the national debt. It was a war for independence from oppressive taxes that dwarfed King George III’s, and then it became a war to repel the invasion of the North, a war begun by Lincoln without consulting Congress.
>>18599999Both the Southern Confederates and the Indians stood in the way of the Whig/Republican dream of a North American economic empire, complete with a subsidized transcontinental railroad, a nationalized banking system, and protectionist tariffs. Consequently, both groups were conquered and subjugated by the most violent means. (The Real Lincoln: A New Look at Abraham Lincoln, His Agenda, and an Unnecessary War, Paperback Edition, New York: Three Rivers Press, 2003, pp. 222-223)
>>18601132Racists know they can't justify slavery outright, so they deny and deflect to any secondary grievance they can think of. It doesn't matter though. Monuments to the Confederacy will still topple all the same, and beautiful memorials to emancipation and the path to multiracial democracy will arise stop their odious ruins.
>>18599999One of the greatest myths surrounding Lincoln is that his war saved the Union. Clearly, it did so geographically; just as clearly, however, by destroying its voluntary nature – which the Founders had emphasised and which had been taken for granted thereafter – the war ruined the Union philosophically. In the Declaration of Independence (1776), Articles of Confederation (1777-1781) and Constitution (1788), the states described themselves as “free and independent.” These documents could not be clearer: states delegated specified powers to the federal government which they had created as their agent, and they retained ultimate sovereignty for themselves. When they put their signatures to the Declaration of Independence, America’s Founders announced the secession from the British Empire of the states which they represented; and when George III signed the peace treaty ending the war, he named all of the states individually. He waged war against thirteen states, not a single entity called “the United States Government.”~ From “SIX BIG LIES ABOUT ABRAHAM LINCOLN,THE SLAVES AND THE WAR”by Chris Leithner.
>>18601171>Racists>RACISSSSTTTTTLmao imagine crying that in 2026 as if its still a magical hammer to shut people down.
>>18601014Based
>>18601151just because youre a dumbass with a martyr complex doesnt negate you being a nepo baby. just look at modern day ICE protestors.
>>18599999Having already written an arrest order for the Chief Justice of the Supreme Court a few months earlier, on September 12-13, 1861, Abraham Lincoln sent soldiers to arrest all suspected Southern sympathizers in the Maryland Legislature, 51 persons in all. The grandson of Francis Scott Key, author of the Star Spangled Banner was one of those arrested and sent to Ft. Henry.
>>18599999Abraham Lincoln violated the oath of office and suspended the Constitution. Lincoln planned to arrest the chief justice of the Supreme Court and gave his friend and U. S. Marshal appointee Ward Lamon the discretion over when to execute the warrant. The effort was short-circuited when Congress eventually informed Lincoln that if and when habeas corpus were ever to be suspended, that action would be under its purview not his. He ignored that Congressional directive but dropped the effort to arrest Chief Justice Taney. Lincoln suspended the Constitution he was sworn to uphold and made himself a dictator. He totally eliminated free speech and press, eliminated due process even though civilian courts were still operating, and eliminated the public’s protection from him (habeas corpus). He discarded the 2nd amendment by confiscating guns from legitimate state militias in states which had voted to remain in the Union (Missouri and Maryland). He eliminated the 10th amendment by arresting entire legislatures which had voted to remain in the Union, basing such incredible actions on the hunch that they might change their minds. Maryland's was arrested and Missouri's chased into exile and replaced by sycophants. He unconstitutionally created two states (West Virginia and Nevada) to increase his electoral college total in a close re-election bid.
When Lincoln entered Richmond, countless ex slaves came out to see him and celebrate. At long last, they were free men and not someone's property. Two tried to kneel to him, but Lincoln wouldn't let them. Motioning them to stand, he told them to only kneel to God, the true author of their liberation.
>>18601171>abolitionists had 160 years to prove racists wrong by winning people over with "multiracial democracy" "critical race theory" "diversity">opinions on Lincoln at an all time low as of 2026>polls show modern zoomers are even more racist than their grandparents.
>>18601203I too write fanfiction
>>18599999>Nick Fuentes says the Confederacy was anti-White>"The real redpill is that the Confederacy was not based. Think about it. These hillbillies k**Ied a million White people so they could keep black people in America."Yeah! Imagine if the Confederacy had won and all the blacks had been allowed to stay in America! Thank goodness the Union won and shipped them all back to Africa.
>>18601219okay, but what would have really happened if Henry Clay won instead of James K Polk?
>>18601224There wouldn't have been an unjust war of naked territorial conquest against Mexico.
>>18600290Ya ever see that historian guy who seethed and shitted himself over that vid?
>>18600224>That assumes you have the right to secedeWhich they did. As prior to Lincoln's war of rape and murder, US was a union of voluntary members.If the Union had not been voluntary, most states would not have joined it back when the Constitution was being written up.
>>18600384And it became theirs again when they voted to leave the Union.
>>18601227>unjust war>Mexican troops cross Rio Grande and murder US soldiers>unjust warAbraham Lincoln once asked General Winfield Scott this question: "Why is it that you were once able to take Mexico City in three months with five thousand men, and we have been unable to take Richmond with one hundred thousand men?""I will tell you," said General Scott. "The men who took us into Mexico City are the same men who are keeping us out of Richmond."While based men like Jeff Davis was off killing Mexicans, Lincoln was at home preaching the gospel of a big big big national bank
>>18601242The us troops had crossed the disputed border with the specific intention of having Mexico attack them. Grant was also there fighting the war, and in his memoirs he called it totally unjust.
>>18601242Also, if it is just for the US to invade Mexico for the goal of territorial conquest, so too would it be just for the Union to have invaded even an independent southern Confederacy. Except the union never even recognized the confederacy's independence.
>>18600290Yeah but I cant listen to that guy talk. Give me a normal person talking about it please.
>>18601019>The War of Northern Aggressionterrible name. you guys couldnt have come up with anything better? all the confederate songs are absolute bangers so I believe you can do better. this is an awful name for a war.
>>18601237Federal land belongs to the federal government. Your state may secede but you do not have the rights to own say the national parks or military bases in your state since it isn't your land to secede with.
>>18601300Most of the songs in the south were made by Yankees. Hell dixie was made by an Ohioan
Tbh you don't even really have to argue against Lincoln. Yeah he destroyed the Union and all that, but why waste your breath when his sycophants refute themselves? They've resorted to writing fanfiction about how he was going to send all the negroes back to Africa to defend him. They can't defend his actual actions, so they praise him for things he didn't do and had no intention of doing.
>>18601368We same lincolnites don't claim the chuds who talk about forced repatriation. You can have them. Journal entries by Lincoln's associates suggest he repudiated his prior belief in promoting voluntary repatriation sometime around 1864.
>>18601300It was correct name. Yankee always false flagged. See example like Iraqi and the Iranian war.
>>18601317I know that but, most? I dont think so. I dont think a yankee wrote “i’m a good old rebel”. an irishman wrote “the bonnie blue flag”. what did yankees write other than dixie?
>>18601119>>18601135Fed promised surrender the fort but Lincoln lied.
>>18601246>>18601249>>18601135It was border conflict between the North and South.
>>18601382When did Lincoln or even the fed promise that? There were northern supplies and reinforcements en route before Lincoln even took office
Anon posts facts and all Lincoln dickriders can cry is racismmmmmm lmao
>>18601421>Lincoln’s first action as president was to send supplies (food and necessities) to Fort Sumter, explicitly escalating.>Secretary of State William H. Seward naturally opposed resupplying Sumter due to his secret dealings with the Confederate commissioners currently in Washington.
>>18601317The Anti-Dixie Union was sing by a Tennessee native. Lincoln himself loved both "Dixieland" and "Bonnie Blue" songs.
>>18601435Buchanan was attempting to supply the fort before Lincoln was in office and unauthorized secret dealings with a cabinet member isn't the entire fed promising il
>>18601130The confederates can’t fight if Lincoln doesn’t agree to. But he did, killing 700,000 Americans. Worst president ever. >>18601132Because Lincoln didn’t have to fight them. But he did, killing 700,000 Americans. Worst president ever. He could have just let them go. They rank last in everything.
>>18601135Not after succession.
>>18601314>they attacked muh fort>better kill 700,000 peopleNow I see why modern psychologists think Lincoln was autistic.
>>18601317Southern Soldier fucking slaps.https://youtu.be/WUajwtw2Esc?is=PPxivcCOFo5wubye
>>18599999The South is rising again, deal with it.
>>18601671I heard this song on my steel box DVD of Civil War documentaries.
>>18599999>>18601708Reconciliation worked somewhat for a good century.Then various groups on the left decided to hold up Dylan Roof and start going after the South. Southern history, southern heroes. Pissing on the graves of not only Confederate troops but also Union ones.These people honestly hate the South more than the soldiers who were dying to Southern shot.Go on twitter and you'll easily find some fucking jeet pissing themselves over Robert E Lee. Shits wild.They never talk about the black dude; Emmanuel, who shot up a church in Tennessee as revenge btw.When I was a kid you'd see this flag everywhere. Nobody fucking cared.Most of the people who attack the South, its history. Its heroes. Its culture. Have no blood relation to that war. None. Zero. Yet they want to lecture us that do. Its tiring. Rename schools. Rename military bases. Tiring. I say fuck em.Lift the rebel flag.
>>18601435>>18601456>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UrnjBf8hZNc&t=662s
>>18601317Now we gaming.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOr9clmx7wkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gONnTDQcHCo
>>18601817Reminds that most anti-southern American heritage view come from pajeet, commie, them/they, and democunts/republicucks (Israel worshippers)
>>18601817>Reconciliation worked somewhat for a good centuryThe north raped the south for the century following the civil war. It was basically colonialism.
>>18599999Maga cunts are setting the bar pretty fucking low for themselves. Absolute dumb fucks.
>>18601300Dakota War of 1862 proved white northerners are aggressive
>>18601380Then why did the South attack the North first?
>>18601668So you would feel comfortable someone attacking your home by throwing rocks through your windows and not doing anything? They didn't hurt anyone after all
>>18599999>99999FACTS
>>18602889How dare the North ensure that black people had the right to vote after 1865!
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>>18603387>>18601435
>>18603560Resupplying a fort in a forign territory is an escalation? So if you have a base on an island you should just never send supplies there so it can be weak? Still doesn't negate the fact the South willingly chose to commit a violent act first.This is no different than a store owner getting added security and a nigger attacking the store in "provocation"
>>18603819Lincoln wanted preserve the union, so he bait.https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/lincoln-and-fort-sumter/https://www.abbevilleinstitute.org/rethinking-fort-sumter/
>>18599999Yup..
>>18599999Based Total cuckfederate deathTotal landowner death
>>18599999Literally did nothing wrong
>>18600253This
>>18599999Cringe Total yankikes deathTotal freemason death
A million musketeers will play buckshot and Nessler ball on the golf field!
>>18603908Still not a hostile action that the South took. You can twist all you want. The fact of the matter is the South still fired the first shots and started hostilities unjustly.
>>18603553Could’ve done it without colonizing the south, but that way is less profitable.
>>18603819>my fort got attacked>better kill 700,000 peopleDo Lincoln apologists really?
>>18604421Why did those 700000 people unjustly attack Lincoln?
>>18600224>You don't have rights because I just refused to respect your rights
>>18599999It's in general a mistake to allow the ruling classes of belligerents to survive due to misguided mercy. Even in roman or feudal times this was well known: when you defeat a violent rival, the prudent thing is to also slay or wipe out all their leaders or maybe all males, then rape and wed the wives. Or your mercy will be rewarded with a knife in the back. Ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.Every recognizable part of antebellum south should have been violently destroyed and all it's leaders hung, and then we might not have to suffer this kind of shitposts and cancer today.
>>18601236they had the right. because lincoln claimed it was NOT about slavery. so south had the right to claim its "remedial right" (that would be otherwise inapplicable to due immorality of slavery). and lincoln didn't want to violate the constitution that protected the slaveowners. so whole morally awful, lincoln WAS indeed the unlawful agressor. sorry I don't make the rules.
