Which of this list do you disagree with?
none of those people have changed my life
>>18600715persons* what is the criterion used? I'd slide rabbi yeshu up-to #2 or #1. Buddha at #3, Paul should be lower. He's influencial within christianity, but not known outside it. Gutenberg should be #4, Newton at #5Columbus seems arbitrarily placed
>>18600715Marx should be really high up here
>>18600715I disagree with three whole spots on the list being for the spread of Abrahamics, one would suffice. And the Wop isn't even close to the top ten.
Don't reply to the bait
>>18600715Professional historians want to chuck the "people" who create these types of list into an active volcano.
>>186007151. Jesus2. Muhammad3. Columbus4. Buddha
>>18600715Buddha is the only religious figure/prophet on this list who didn't use his holy powers for personal gain (getting followers)Jesus and Muhammad both performed Miracles in front of crowds to attract attention.Buddha specifically told his high-level followers not to use their powers for that purpose, that achieving true conversion was through teaching and learning instead
>>18600715>jesus>palestine flagCheeky libtards made this one.
>>18601167What flag would you put jesus under? inb4 christian emblem because he was so specialhe came from Palestine, not israel, not jordan, not egypt, not persia, palestine
>>18601167The source book for this list has existed longer than women have been allowed to vote.And it's an appropriate flag.
Kek Newton being ahead of Jesus must be trolling.
>>18600835pretty much this
it would be a cooler list if it used whatever flag or symbol was contemporary for that region during their lifetimes tbdesu. only newton's would stay identical
>>18600715Jesus and Muhammad deserve to be on top, both of them.Newton not really. Euler or Gauss make more sense but I guess Newton is more well known by plebs.Buddha and Cobfucius are ok.Columbus not at all imo. Like the new world would've been discovered without him, it may have been few decades later but in the grand scheme of things it wouldn't have mattered.St. Paul I disagree with completely. Pauline Christianity is the bedrock Christianity sits on but a non-pauline configuration can be stable, no reason to believe much would change without him.Gutenberg yes and he's in the right place Einstein no. Important scientist living in an era where there were dozens of them
1. Parmenides2. Plato3. Aristotle4. Alexander5. Darwin6. Jesus7. Hitler (TBD but seems to have destroyed humanity entirely)8. St Paul9. Constantine10. Nietzsche (post-disease philosophy, albeit incomplete)What exactly is the relevance of Confucius or Mohammed? Degrading the worldviews of various backwaters?
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>>18601139Doesn’t make him more influential.
>>18601396I don’t get you not wanting Columbus but wanting Gutenberg. Someone would have invented the printing press eventually.
>>18600846Who gets main credit for Abrahamism? A fictional "Moses" character or Shaul of Tarsus for facilitating the transmission to gentiles?
>>18601167The Christians of his native area identify with Palestine, so seems reasonable.
>>18601718judeo-christianity and islam are clearly 2 distinct religions with some shared commonalities. I think it should be catagorized as 2 religions
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>>18601167The sadducees and pharisees would agree.
>>18600715Swap Confucius for Cleisthenes or Pericles. The global obsession with democracy stems directly from the actions of these two comically influential men.
>>18601174>What flag would you put jesus under?The Roman aquila. He was a subject of the emperor. I feel like this would be a given.
>>18601701Not necessarily. Movable typefonts famously showed up in China but they weren't valued. Not only because they used massive amounts of symbols, but also because the Chinese literate classes were inherently interested in calligraphy and this just destroyed the art in a sense.In Ancient Rome large market for books existed, but they just maintained large scriptoriums. The demand for books Gutenberg answered was present for a hundred years by then, but the market was just in a stable state of books being high cost, low volume and high margin goods for elite consumption.In Europe itself there were no parallel developments either. They did have woodblock prints but that was less elastic for obvious reasons and again nobody seemed to add 2 to 2 there.And then Gutenberg thinks hey I can make metal font blocks, and use screwpress to make the print very consistent to then make a lot of money selling books that I can mass produce now. And it radiates from Mainz. It imo really is the case of one man figuring out there's this demand for a product that can be satiated by applying a combination of technologies that were just out there, while everyone else just sat on them without ever making that combination in their heads.
>>18600715Jesus has to be the luckiest man to ever liveLiterally some crazy street preacher who got raped and crucified by romans but the most known man to ever livedLiterally personally unimpressive as hell and even people like Donald Trump are more impressive personally.
>>18601167Put on your kippah
>>18600715Why Newton over Darwin? Why no Pasteur? Where's Genghis Khan?
>>18600715The entire list is retarded. It's based on a book by some non-historian without any real methodoloy. The book was also published by his father's publishing house.But Muslims especially lap this shit up because they somehow think this "proves" that even non-Muslims see Muhammad as the most influential man in history. Which isn't even something particularly good. If I somehow managed to create a virus which would wipe out 99.9% of all humans I would also be very influential
>>18602352>So buttmad about Islam he has to make it as influential as something that wipes out 99.9% of all humanity just to get his point acrossThanks for proving the book right, Islam lives rent free in your mind meaning it is very much so influential to your own life. So much so you cannot even stop seething about it in every thread
>>18602451Ah yes, the old "if you're calling me out for being retarded, that means I'm doing something right" argument. Beloved by a lot of cultists (Scientology for instance)>Islam is influential todayNobody denies this. Israel is also very influential in world politics (especially compared to its population size). Does that mean what they're doing is good?>So much so you cannot even stop seething about it in every threadHaven't visited /his/ in over a year now so don't know what the fuck you're talking about. BTW, this is the guy whose book you're shilling right now. He organized an entire conference to get Muslims deported from the West. Good to know that's where your money went to
>>18600715What a bullshit chart
>>18600809Most 4chan users are solipsists so they wouldn't even credit their mothers for their births
>>18602217True, Paul did most of the work to make Christianity a world religion.
>>18600715The most influential person ever was Grug, a caveman in East Africa 120,000 years ago who first suggested that his tribe should migrate North, which eventually led to literally every event in history.
>>18602217This is cope. He was obviously good at what he was trying to do. And getting crucified was all according to his plan. He larped as the messiah to get crucified and actually went through with it.
>>18600835>what is the criterion used?nothing, this is a list made by a literally who decades ago that Muslims have been talking about for at least 20 years because it ranked Muhammad at the top. It's based purely on some random nobody callex Michael Hart eyeballing it
>>18601953all of these flags are modern. obviously Confucius was not from communist china, St. Paul not from the Republic of Turkey and Columbus not from Italy. Bethlehem is in Palestine, Nazareth in Israel, so the Palestine flag is correct.
