Why has Brazil, since the beginning of the 20th century, consistently been—by a wide margin—the leading technological power in Latin America? Why are Mexico and Argentina unable to catch up with Brazil?
>latin american technology404
>>18602027Believe it or not land is important to development. Over time it enables compounding growth of your population and literal expansion of every sector of your economy. It is not a coincidence all the worlds leading powers also hold a lot of land. This is not the only reason but it is a big one and lets nations, all things being equal, play on easy mode.
>>18602027The bar is on the floor. Brazil is only home to Embraer because they had a once-thriving aviation community in the early 20th century and many of those retards still think they beat the Wright Brothers to the first heavier-than-air flight. But Brazil is no longer home to the same pioneer anyways, since they were all whites from Europe, and Brazil is no longer home to white Europeans
>>18602060>still think they beat the Wright BrothersThat's like 20 other countries, if that's going to be your dig chud you're really going to need to try harder.
>>18602068>That's like 20 other countriesNobody thinks this but Brazilians dude, sorry I have to be the one to tell you this
>>18602071>Nobody thinks this but Brazilians dudeDude you haven't traveled and it shows, the Kiwis have a guy, the brits have a guy, the french have a guy, the brazilians have a guy. Lost of countries think the US ignores their claim and they were technically the first. They're fucking wrong, but the Brazilians aren't the only ones being wrong.
>>18602080The French have like 3 guys, and the Germans have 2 I think
>>18602087Nah, the Americans have 2 and one of them is german and the French have 2 (or 3?) and then there's some guy in NZ and then the Brazilian dude.
>>18602080Most of them agree that the Wright Brothers were first my guy
>>18602109Did you google it my guy and decide to agree with me? Good job dude, I knew you could be right like me if you tried.
>>18602060>Brazil is only home to Embraer because they had a once-thriving aviation community in the early 20th century"Literally Just Making Shit Up" AwardEmbraer is a Cold War baby of the Brazilian government, which partially involved German engineers coming over after 1945, and was kept incubated and alive by the ultra protectionist Military Junta (another detail people often miss, but the military government was extremely restrictive to foreign imports and Brazilian domestic brands 'thrived' in this era). It has absolutely nothing to do with early 20th century aviation enthusiasts being in Brazil.
>>18602027>Brazil>leading technological power
>>18602080In the UK pretty much everyone learns about the Wright Brothers.Santos Dummont has partial recognition in France because he was Franco-Brazilian and made his exhibition flight in Paris
>>18602027Better to say it's a leading *industrial power, but in that aspect Mexico is in fact Brazil's peer.A lot of it comes down to government policy deliberately pushing for that industrialization in partnership with the USA via automobile manufacturers, steel mills, hydroelectric dams, etc... Vargas famously joined the Allies in WWII in exchange for Roosevelt giving him Steel Mills, and after him Kubitschek was obsessed with cars and pushed hard for Ford, Willys, GM, etc... to open factories in Brazil, which is why Brazil is actually a fairly major motor producing nation (later on they also got FIAT, Mercedes, Volkswagen, etc... all setting up factories there too).Funny bit of car trivia is that the Willys brand survived in Brazil longer than it did in the US thanks to its subsidiary there kinda taking a life of its own and hanging on for a bit. Also Toyota Land Cruisers built in Brazil use Mercedes engines because of a weird licensing deal and Toyota's refusal to export their machinery to Brazil at the time.
>>18602027The margin is not that wide, ngl. At least wrt Mexico. The main factor separating the two is that Brazil makes Micro-chips. Anyway. Mexico is a branch plant economy subordinated to the U.S and the Argentine Economy is a form of post-modern performance art.
>>18602260Probably the only thing spics do well, aside from esoteric bullshit: Chasing novelty. Now, establishing robust and competent infrastructure to compete with the developed world at scale? No.
>>18602027Embraer took advantage of the fact that big aircraft manufacturing companies weren't building regional jets even though there was significant demand for it.
>>18602060>the Wright Brothers to the first heavier-than-air flightThey did lol keep coping timmy
its just a huge shithole with lots of land and people. normally it will have some things here and there, itd be absurd if macacos didnt have any sort of development. but it just grows aimlessly.
>>18602195>In Latin AmericaAnd he's not wrong. They're the most industrialized followed by Mexico and maybe Chile after them. Idk how much Argentina counts since despite their development they can't seem to have a stable economy beyond 15 years. Then there's Uruguay that has a high standard of living but doesn't make anything. Colombia after them? Then maybe Peru??
South America is a clown continent
>>18602351Yall are fine when they suspend the constitution to jail and torture people that may or may not be varying shades of gang members
>>18602351which is the worst continent? Africa?Oceania?S. America?
>>18602351This is a fairly un-wacky action, though.
>>18602357Usually when a country devolves into dictatorship there's more of a run-up to it, perhaps a revolution or the collapse of the existing government or an economic collapse, not the existing head of state randomly deciding to suspend elections without warning, that's clown world shit
>>18602355Why the fuck does Asia always get a pass? Half of it is a frozen wasteland that turns into literally all of the -stans. Yeah, the east coast has Anime and factories but the south is jungle-shithole, then India, and then backwards ass desert oil tycoons. But because we like K-pop and JJK we give the other 95% a pass, fuck that. Asia sucks. >>18602361>Usually when a country devolves into dictatorshipWho says there wasn't? It's Nicaragua, who'd notice?
>>18602355I would unironically rather live in Gabon or Botswana than Venezuela or Brazil
>>18602363>Who says there wasn't? It's Nicaragua, who'd notice?The country has two heads of state, a Husband and Wife, he obviously decided to suspend elections as a show of gravitas and amor for his significant other, a show of latin american romance if you will. It would be sweet if it wasn't so sad and embarrassing
>>18602365See that's just because you have shit taste and are a retard though. >i dun wan to live in Brazil uhuhuhuSame amerimutts that go on and on about >America BIIIG And every state having a different flavor. Brazil is huge, If you can't find a part you like that's more on you than on it.
>>18602368>HUEHUEHUEHUE BRBRBRBRB??????yeah no thanks joao
>>18602368The US state with the lowest HDI is still ranked higher than the Brazilian Federative Unit with the highest
>>18602370>no counterpoint in the face of FACTS and LOGICgood memes mang
>>18602373Shift those goalposts much??
>>18602377You're missing the point, unless you just forgot what your original post was arguing about
>>18602373>0.866 vs 0.868Look at Mississippi go. >my state is 48God fucking damn these red voting retards.
>>18602380It's comparing the absolute best with the absolute worst to be fair and Brazil still can't compete
>>18602379Gee maybe I did just forgot what my original post was arguing about, let's see....>>18602365>I would unironically rather live in Gabon or Botswana than Venezuela or BrazilTherefore:>>18602373>I'm going to compare Brazil to the worlds most developed nation and thereby skewer it with my enormous wit!! TAKE THAT BRAZIL!! >PWNED!Golly gee whizz man.
>>18602375what's the size of the favelamonkey diaspora in the US vs the unitedstatian diaspora in Brazil
>>18602383Your argument was that Brazil is '>le big' and thus its range of development must surely vary considerable and must therefore not all be a complete shithole but like...c'mon now
>>18602382No you're comparing the best of an undeveloped nation with one of the worst parts of THE RICHEST NATION ON THE PLANETYeah, no shit it can't compete. Did you find out the equator is kinda warm too?? Did you want to share that??
>An estimated 1.4 million Brazilians live in the United States>Brazil is home to over 1.4 million foreign-born residents, of which around 91,000 are from the United States>Brazil has an estimated population of about 213.5 million people>The total population of the United States is approximately 342.6 million peopleNow go sacrifice a goat to the magical black cubans, cleiton
>>18602386My argument is that Brazil is big so there's variety in people, climates, regional cultures, cities, diets, etc. like every state has a different flavor (remember that you insecure monkey?). Just chime in with some other irrelevant bullshit why don't you?
>>18602386>let me tell you what your argument isYou know what?? I think Brazil is objectively better than the USA by probably every metric.
>>18602392so where's the mass migration of yanqui doodles to favelastan that would support that
>>18602392In fact I can't actually think of a way America is better than Brazil. Brazil has better food, better quality of life, more money obviously. Cleaner streets and no drug addicts wandering around.>>18602393Why would they ever let you in?
>>18602394I can't recall citizenship restrictions being much of a barrier to spics emigrating to the US, why is it ostensibly stopping gringos from mass migrating to Brazil
>>18602390 legit think this chud shat himself to reply at the idea someone somewhere might compare his beloved burgers to that those dirty churascos >>18602389Fake news
>>18602399>>18602397
>>18602397Because you're pussies.
>>18602401Or it's, maybe, just a shithole
>>18602400That's a fair point.
>Across Brazil, 39 percent of all schools lack basic hand-washing infrastructure, according to the WHO/UNICEF Joint Monitoring Programme for Water Supply, Sanitation and Hygiene (JMP). lmao, based favelamonkey slumdogmaxxxxxing
>>18602402I mean for a second I could maybe consider that, but then I see that Americans are pussies, and I just have to concede that has to be the reason. There's just not really another explanation here my guy
>>18602406That's wrong though.
>>18602411>trying to complain about proper mannersBarbarians.
>>18602408>>18602408>u r 2 pussy 2 favelamaxxx, huehuehuehehuiesounds like cope. now pray to the magical black cubans to strike me down, cleiton
>>18602410prove it
>>18602408>>18602408....i can't honestly find a flaw here.
>>18602414Well across Brazil 100% of schools are awesome and have bidets too.
>>18602413You're the one that can't throw away poop paper. Why do you want to keep it anyway? It's gross.
>>18602416I'm an American and I fucking love my bidet so there
>>18602417>Chicken sacrifice in Brazil is a protected religious practice performed within Afro-Brazilian traditions like Candomblé and Umbanda. This ritual has faced legal challenges regarding animal cruelty, but supreme court rulings continue to defend it as an expression of constitutional religious freedomnow sacrifice a chicken to strike me down, slumdog
>>18602418>American>washes his assWell now we all know you're lying
>>18602419I cant even fathom the amount of moral depravity it takes to not kill a chicken. How do you function sir? You must be unwell, do you lack chickens??
>>18602421The magical black cubans won't cure your grandma's diabetes, slumdog
>>18602422What do you know you don't even clean your ass and keep your poop papers.
Brazil isn't all hue hue hue hue favelas. Unlike Mexico with its agrarian natives, Brazil and Argentina did not racemix much. Although Brazil had a mulatto population up north, the south was mostly white. Brazil and Argentina then had an influx of European immigrants to their temperate regions from the 1890s to the 1930s, like the US's Ellis Islanders. They thus had a core of wholesome white folks, rather like South Africa.Leaders like Vargas and Peron provoked fear of anglo imperialism to justify military spending and protectionism and open up business opportunities for their clique and supporters. However Vargas killed himself after an apparent botched attempt to assassinate his rival which shifted public opinion away from this style of government, contrasted with the enormous popularity of Peron.Thus Brazil struck a better balance between protectionism and free market competition to develop its own aerospace industry. At this time aerospace was a sensation advancing rapidly from the piston engines of ww2 to the moon landings 24 years later (as old as 4chan), it was the perfect way for the government to display Brazil's independence from the dreaded anglo. At the same time Brazil curbed the extremes of corruption plaguing Argentina, which can easily cripple an industry like this where safety is paramount.Embraer was lowkey subsidized by the state, even run by a former civil servant, and due to interest from the public and military it received heavy oversight. The deal was they had to manufacture safe reliable technologically up to date aircraft that would sell in the private sector, then they would receive more military contracts, which they did since they had enough of a pool of talent to draw from and could import any new technology they needed from wealthier countries.
>>18602355Obviously Africa, what the fuck kind of question is this? Oceania is 90% Australia, a country so First World that they think Americans and Europeans live like poorfag bums. South America still has places like Argentina, Chile, Uruguay, Costa Rica, etc. which even if it not ideal, can offer a fairly civilized and enjoyable life to anyone middle-class and up.Africa's best country, South Africa, is still such a Mad Max tier crime ridden mess that it makes Rio de Janeiro look like a Tutorial Level pvp zone. Real talk I've actually been to both (Capetown, Joburg and Rio, São Paulo) and South Africa's crime and inequality are worse by far.
>>18602361Oh so you're just kinda retardedOrtega has been slowly eroding Nicaragua's Constitutional limits for years now, you just didn't pay attention to it on the news because Nicaragua is not that irrelevant, but this is not an overnight thing by any means.
>>18602363The -stans are "alright", the real horror show in Asia is places like Myanmar/Burma right now, where even Chinese citizens are getting kidnapped and enslaved into criminal gangs and shit, absolute fuckfest of a place. Then of course there's the Middle East, which is still Asian by definition.
>>18602425>Brazil and Argentina did not racemix much. Although Brazil had a mulatto population up north, the south was mostly whiteUtter nonsense, Brazil was "race mixed" since day 1 because the Portuguese didn't consider it appropriate to bring their women to the colonies. The first Brazilians were pretty much all the sons of Portuguese men with indigenous or African wives. The Bandeirantes themselves were often mixed Euro-Indian mestizos who knew the inland tracks explicitly because they could communicate with or had blood relatives on the Indigenous side of the equation
>>18602027They're a massive country with a big industrial output. The only one who gets close is Mexico but Mexico is basically the US' China and Argentina is way smaller and has too many problems. Brazil's isolation and push to assert itself as a regional superpower also made it more susceptible to develop it's own tech industries
>>18602361Ortega has been dismantling Nicaraguan civil society for a while now, as he had done in his previous governments. And he did ascend to power through revolution, in 1979. >>18602366>Sad and EmbarassingI keep hearing people talk in these terms about global politics and I honestly do not get it. Do you actually feel these feelings? Are you trying to socially humilliate a state? Is politics a soap opera to you?Actually considering the terms in which you interpret the events it's fairly clear it is. But at that point why would it be embarassing or sad? It'd be deeply romantic, if anything. But it is all vibes anyway.>>18602578Every single country in the world bar a select few African States + Burma + Venezuela and Haiti "can offer a fairly civilized and enjoyable life to anyone middle-class and up."Ok maybe not middle class because you are most definitely over-estimating how the middle class actually lives. But being within the top quarter of society everywhere is comfortable. >>18602589Then Gold was discovered and a solid third of Portugal moved into the place lusoficating great amounts of it. That said though, Brazil and Argentina's White mythologies do need to be dismantled.
>>18602616Oh fanfuckingtastic, another Goiânia accident in the making, this time much, much bigger and possibly happening much closer to some other country.
>>18602351Honest question If you are an open dictator why would you even bother with fake elections?
