The best thing he did was bomb yugoslaviathe worst thing he did was either>sign into law the AWB and brady bill>sign nafta>normalize relations with india>create the WTO>end the yugoslavia bombings prematurely (there were still living yugos)
Ruby Ridge.Waco.Clinton Body Count and I don't mean the hoes he's banged.
>>18603316>nafta>WTOi dont mean to sound like a libtard, but i blame Reagan for ushering in CATO institute freemarket autism for all this. everything else is valid.
>>18603316>>>/pol/
>>18603342clinton was president from 1993-2001, that's over 25 years ago, retardo>>18603339and clinton still fucking did it. reagan, hw, and clinton all suck>>18603322Ruby Ridge was H. W.
The 1990s were humanity's golden age. Time should have simply froze after the fall of apartheid.
>>18603316He came extremely close to solving the Palestine conflict. I'd say it was his greatest success but also greatest failure.
>>18603585that's a completely irrelevant no one cares thing>>18603578that's when all the free trade shit started. it was the beginning of the end
modified asylum laws to make interior deportations nigh impossible, quintupled naturalizations, gave illegal aliens welfare, food stamps, Medicaid, SSI, bilingual schooling, banned immigration enforcement at schools, defended minority-majority redistricting, launched force of federal observers to prevent "voter intimidation" in mixed districtsPresided over Pigford v. Glickman (1999) which said it was racist to deny black people loans, and repealed Glass-Steagal, encouraging speculation in housing markets. Combination of race-blind lending and rampant, obscured speculation set the stage for the financial crisis.Granted China most favored nation status in WTOApproved of basically every corporate merger that could possibly come by, particularly the telecomms.Basically he was an easily distracted, affable, charismatic guy who was deluded into thinking all the whirlwind changes happening around him would go over smoothly.
>free trade and corporate monopolization and unfettered speculation? nah no problem, it'll just help people's 401(k)s.>Huge foreign influx and native deracination and racial grievance politics? No problem, blank slates and all that. I'm literally MLK.The mind of a fool whose only concern was being liked and getting blowjobs from secretaries
>>18603611>that's a completely irrelevant no one cares thingSolving the palestine conflict was his biggest shot at solidifying himself as one of Americas greatest presidents. Instead his legacy became the man who cheated on his wife and lied.
>>18603623there are more important things happening in this country than palestine
In retrospect, he was extremely greedy and corrupt. That will be his longest-term legacy. >Repealing Glass-Steagall and leading to the rise of finance capital as the main driver of the entire economy>Repealing limits on all sorts of corporate consolidation or ownership, leading to absurd situations like ClearChannel controlling most radio stations nationwide>Using corporate 'cutouts' like Loral Space & Communications to launder money from foreign/corporate bribes>Signing the 1998 DMCA and copyright extension acts in order to give more power over media to the biggest corporationsEtc. On and fucking on. Clinton was one of the greediest Boomers who ever Boomed.
>>18603624The overhwelming majority of things OP listed were foreign policy related.I know Americans have a bit of a Israeli complex at this moment, but I remain firm on my position that solving the Palestine conflict would have dwarfed all other 'accomplishments', and the fact that he came extremely close is quite remarkable.
>>18603615>>18603622good post>>18603623>>18603630>olving the palestine conflict was his biggest shot at solidifying himself as one of Americas greatest presidents.the palestinian crisis is a complete nonissue that doesn't affect a single human being. my life as an American would be no different either way and it wouldn't have 1/1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000th the impact of say, the Panama Canal, Louisiana purchase or all the land (and major ports) Polk took from mexico
Reading through this thread really gives you a clear explanation of why the modern right seems to be such a motley crew of weirdos. Nativists, trade restrictionists and industrial manufacturing workers, anticapitalists, isolationists, 2nd amendment absolutists, "traditionalist" Christians. All these disparate strands have banded together and taken over the neocon conservacuck party that in the 2000s hated the shit out of them. Ironically many neocons are still in this party too lol.You might wonder what keeps all these people stuck together, but then you see that they were collectively shoved into a corner by Clinton, they were grouped together by their opposition.
>>18603644>You might wonder what keeps all these people stuck togetherpretty much just hatred for dems since all of their policies are bad. I mean at this point even leftists are pointing out their policies are terrible Also as much as lefties don't want to admit it, they basically have the same policies as clinton had, only more extreme on the race, homo and abortion stuff because clinton couldn't have gotten away with it in 1993
>>18603644>>18603653oh and he couldn't have gotten away because the US is radically different from when he was elected. in 1990 (I know he ran in 1992) there were 19 million foreign born and 13% of kids had at least one foreign born parent. in 2024 those numbers were 50 million and 26%
>>18603653The left has radicalized themselves and then pretend like their position now has always been normality.This video speak volume (only 2 minutes long but you should watch it)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H59R7Mt_fZQ&list=WL&index
>>18603666Sorry proper linkhttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/H59R7Mt_fZQ
>>18603653>>18603655Yeah I just never realized the coalition of dems that the RW hates crystallized so neatly under Clinton. All of it can be traced back to him and it hasn't evolved in anyway except to get browner, for obvious reasons.Like he checked off every box: let's piss off this faction with Waco, then this faction with the WTO, then this one with illegal welfare, etc.
>>18603666>>18603673it's not even just that, it's a demographics thingforeign borns, unless they come from like cuba or colombia or some other communist shithole overwhelmingly vote dem and voters with at least one foreign born parent overwhelmingly vote dem foreign borns and their kids for instance are almost always in favor of more gun control. they just have completely different values than someone whose family has been in the country for 3 generations or more. it also doesn't help that prior to and into the 1990s American culture like Johnny Applesneed, Paul Bunion, Tom Sawyer, the hatfieds and mccoys, cowboys and indians, the founders ect were heavily pushed in schools and American media. Think about how many cartoons you saw as a kid that referenced classic Americana and now that's not in the media and schools only really teach cultural American stuff that happened after FDR was elected and try to teach a lot more foreign cultural shit so there's not a shared American culture like there was in 1995>>18603674yeah, exactly. the GOP is a big tent party with a bunch of different small causes, whereas the dems are basically just clinton dems and clinton dems who want more government spending
>>18603316>sign into law the AWB and brady billNonsense, AWB can still be struck down brady bill? idgaf, inconvenience. >sign naftaWe should have integrated more>normalize relations with indiameh>create the WTOmeh>end the yugoslavia bombings prematurelyYeah, it's bad. If that's really it he was pretty benign.
>>18603692>Nonsense, AWB can still be struck down brady bill? idgaf, inconvenience.both of those things are terrible. also the awb expired. the brady bill is being used for illegal registries>We should have integrated more"send more jobs to third world countries with lower wages"nafta can only work if you require uniform wages, taxes, benefits and worker protection laws across all 3 countries>meh"send more jobs to india, infinite jeets">meh"send all the jobs to whatever country has the lowest wages and weakest worker protection laws"
>>18603710>nafta can only work if you require uniform wages, taxes, benefits and worker protection laws across all 3 countriesThat's what integrating means.
>>18603710You seem to really hate capitalism
>>18603710All of your complaints are things done with things he did not actually the thing he did.
>>18603721the fact that we didn't do it doesn't make NAFTA good or workable. it was a failure>>18603722sure>>18603725what the fuck are you talking about? he signed the brady bill, he signed the awb, he sold out Americans by starting the free trade shit, signing nafta, creating the WTO and normalizing relations with india. he also failed to genocide the yugos
>>18603322Ruby ridge and waco were More the fault of Janet Reno. NAFTA was his biggest mistake. We should have elected Ross Perot.
>>18603733Ruby Ridge happened in 1992. clinton and reno weren't involved
>>18603730>what the fuck are you talking about?123 agreement was Bush not Clinton, Clinton just "normalized" relations because sanctioning India over nuclear weapons was retarded and never going to work. Similarly "jeets taking muh jobs" is also an entirely different trend happening well after his administration ended. So you're blaming him for something someone else did not what he did. Free trade is inevitable as markets grow. Trying to prevent it through protectionism only ensures that your industrial sectors aren't competitive when someone somewhere inevitably discovers they like money.Trying to set up a bloc like NAFTA is exactly what a smart country would do the problem is as usual the government half assed it.So yeah, NAFTA was a fuckup but not because of what you think. Manufacturing can't stay in a 1st world country without drastically reducing the workforce. WTO is another one, great idea, Most of its most grievous failings happened well after his administration ended. Genociding the Yugos was never the plan. Nor is it nice, shame on you.
>>18603762>Clinton just "normalized" relations because sanctioning India over nuclear weapons was retarded and never going to workwe should have never normalized relations with india. it provided zero benefit to humans> Similarly "jeets taking muh jobs" is also an entirely different trend happening well after his administration ended.it only happened because he normalized relations with india>Free trade is inevitable as markets grow. Trying to prevent it through protectionism only ensures that your industrial sectors aren't competitive when someone somewhere inevitably discovers they like money.that's bullshit. free trade killed the global solar panel market. now china is the only solar panel maker and pretty much 100% of all electric cars outside of the US are chinese because they destroyed the yuropean domestic market. free trade only benefits the mega rich>Trying to set up a bloc like NAFTA is exactly what a smart country would do the problem is as usual the government half assed it.all nafta did was unemploy a ton of Americans and make millennials worse off than their parents >Manufacturing can't stay in a 1st world country without drastically reducing the workforce.it can, if you don't play the retarded free trade gameWhat the fuck is the point of an economy or country if it leads to worse living conditions for the citizens of said country?>WTO is another one, great idea, Most of its most grievous failings happened well after his administration ended.the WTO was so fucking bad obongo bitched about it and no one fixed it after trump intentionally shat it up in like 2019>Genociding the Yugos was never the plananother clinton mistake
>>18603627It's incredible how much of the current corporate hellscape is traced back to his presidency. Or rather, Hillary's proxy presidency.
>>18603316>sign into law the AWB and brady billThe backlash over that was so bad that Democrats never tried to fuck with gun control again.
>>18603778He didn't even sign a single trade agreement with India. Your chud outrage and shit flinging makes no sense as usual. You shit on the free market while simultaneously shitting on agreements that try to limit its scope and organizations that try to regulate it. So your point is fucking nothing. You don't have one. Regulating it is bad, not regulating it is bad, limiting it is bad, not limiting it is worse. You want to go back to 1979 when everything was objectively shittier by every quantifiable metric out of nostalgia and pants shitting obstinance even children don't possess. You whine about the WTO the same way boomers and Magatards whine about the UN. It's a body to legitimize foreign relations, In this case trade, there's nothing inherently shit about it, it it's all about how you use it. NAFTA was a stepping stone to the building of a trade bloc that could see us out produce a command economy like China that unlike the USSR had the ports, manpower and relations to actually become powerful and retain it. It aggressively used state subsidies, cheap industrial power, and massive scaling to push costs far below what Western manufacturers could match. Trading freely with someone like Mexico who both has manpower and close transportation ties with the USA could have checked that if used properly but I'm sure some dipshit that lets someone being brown stand in the way of making money fucked that right up. And no, genocides are still bad. fuck you.
>>18603644both parties are like that now, you dummy. milquetoast consensus centrism like in the 2000 election isn't a thing anymore.
>>18603805literally every democrat president since him has supported the AWB and tried to get a new one passed and there has been a ton of state shit. they just can't a majority in congress because everyone in a purple district or state would lose their seats>>18603810>He didn't even sign a single trade agreement with Indiahe normalized relations with them. they should be under embargo persona nongrata like cuba>You shit on the free market while simultaneously shitting on agreements that try to limit its scope and organizations that try to regulate it.such as?>You want to go back to 1979 when everything was objectively shittier by every quantifiable metriceverything was objectively better in 1979, you retard. also I want to go to like 1972>You whine about the WTO literally no one likes the WTO. no one has tried to fix it in over half a decade> boomers and Magatardsthanks for admitting to being a third world yuropean homosexual> It's a body to legitimize foreign relations, In this case trade, there's nothing inherently shit about it,there are videos of obongo bitching about it a decade ago due to china dumping solar panels for less than the cost of the components to destroy domestic industries >NAFTA was a stepping stonea stepping stone to ship all the jobs to third world countries to benefit the mega rich at the cost of normal Americans >China that unlike the USSR had the portsChina does not have unrestricted access to the ocean. that's why they seethe about Taiwan>rading freely with someone like Mexico who both has manpowerfree trade only works if wages, taxes and worker protections are the same across the block, which they weren't and aren't > fuck you.fuck you and fuck yugoslavia >>18603814dems are basically one united block of foreigners who want to ban guns, have open borders and trannies and who dickride the mega rich
>>18603831>everything was objectively better in 1979, you retard>everything was ok during the Carter years...
>>18603845American demographics have only gotten worse and worse since 65 so it's perfectly valid to say any year in the past is better than the present.
>>18603859>the left absolutely believes in arming themselvesthere are maybe a dozen people like this in the real world.
>>18603845>>18603850in 1970 the US had the lowest rate of foreign borns, 4.5%. It was 14.5% in 2024, the highest since 1890in 1979 someone could graduate high school, not go to college and own a home, have a wife, 4 kids and be middle class and go on vacations and shit and retire when he or she hit 62. free trade and immigration made that basically impossible in 2026>>18603859lol no. gun control is leftist. leftists always want to ban guns. all American leftists are super anti gun
>>18603814Look to today's underground for the mainstream 25 years from now. All the "alt" political ideas in the 90s espoused by guys like Pat Buchanan became mainstream.
>>18603868>free trade and immigration made that basically impossible in 2026lolThere are retards that actually believe this
>>18603859Technically true. LBJ banned shipment of guns through the mail in 1968 to prevent 60s militants from getting ahold of them (yes prior to 68 it was completely legal to mail a gun through the US post office)
>>18603868there is no point trying to argue in good faith with someone who thinks opposing the deracination of America makes you a dumb pants shitting nostalgic chud.They hate you and want you dead, they would prefer if tomorrow everyone like you disappeared. They can't be "convinced"
>>18603845/threadEnjoy your absurd crime rates, shithole cities with rows of porno theaters on the blocks, serial killers, 12% inflation, and garbage cars because that was the Carter years.
>>18603882he obviously meant a return to 1970s demographics, you're arguing in bad faith because your race's survival probably depends to some extent on white people being universalist and race-blind.
>>18603873we currently have the highest rate of adults living with their parents since the great depression and millennials are worse off than their parents financially the average American was unironically better off in 1979>>18603881you're right. they/them is some kind of foreigner who benefits from free trade and who hates the US>>18603882you're acting like we didn't just have like 30% inflation for years and that we don't have shithole cities now.
>>18603882also baby boomers in their prime instead of being old and dying
These people literally think white America is just pedophiles and porn addicts and murderers and weak, broken people who couldn't compete in manufacturing and industry.They have a cartoonishly pathetic image of us and honestly "debating" with them will never end well.
>>18603882>>18603893imagine if people talked about your native country this way."Oh you want to decolonize and return to pre-colonization demographics? Enjoy your mud huts and spears and witch doctors"You would never take them seriously. Why shouldn't we treat you in kind?
>>18603888>we currently have the highest rate of adults living with their parentsThat's not a bad thing, the trend of moving out when you're 18 was a mistake.
>>18603901Faggot freak.>>18603907raise your standards. Don't settle for the idea that it's impossible to own anything in your 20s.
>>18603905>return to pre-colonization demographicsthat's called ethnic cleansing, anon
>>18603913stop trying to anklebite me, faggot freak.
>>18603894>these peopleplease don't call them people >>18603907it's literally a sign of decreased prosperity
>>18603644Wow American political parties are built by a spectrum of ideological coalitions that work against a man they disagree with. A profound statement. Liberals who still justify Clinton’s long term awful policies are this pretentious, it explains how they somehow thought keeping Biden at the helm for four years was a good idea. Times changed dumb old fart.
>>18604128You didn't even understand my post, I was not remarking that parties are coalitions, I was remarking that the timing of the coalition forming was interesting. At the time of Reagan's presidency, a Waco cultist, a manufacturing baron, and a nativist had nothing in common. Incredibly disparate strands came together all at once. But you're an illiterate communist so it shouldn't come as a surprise.
>>18603623He did nothing to pressure Israel, how was Oslo ever going to be enforceable? It was a farce even with Rabin’s most sincere efforts, everyone surrounding>>18604136 him was preparing to undermine it. Clinton himself was firmly pro Israeli, scuttling Bush Senior’s detente with Iran and starting unilateral actions against Iraq that set the stage for the 2000s Middle East interventions.
>>18604136>What does a Waco Cultists, Industrial Baron, and Nativist have in commonThey are all generally socially conservative? It’s honestly simple, doesn’t need a word salad to justify why they are against Clinton’s socially liberal ideology. You don’t have to be a communist to recognize this. Bush Senior would have been the better Cold War choice, Clinton was handed the reigns of the victory over the Soviet abomination. Yet he made retarded choices that would lead to a rival Eurasian Bloc within 2 decades, while America’s industrial potency, economic robustness, and social stability was unraveling.
>>18604150>all generally socially conservativeNo they're not, that's the point. They could be incredibly socially liberal, you don't have a good theory of mind for these type of people, you probably haven't met them. Literally David Koresh, the Waco cult leader himself, was super socially liberal and loved racial diversity and encouraged black people to join.Some manufacturing CEOs are pushing back against Haitian TPS expiration because they employ Haitians at their factories and don't want them to leave.Nativists too, they often support gay marriage and love abortion because blacks proportionally abort far more babies than whites do. Nativists often are urban right wingers who despise rural or country social conservatives who think white people should just abandon the cities and move to small towns instead of going through costly and slow deportation efforts in places like New York and Chicago.
>>18604158These people were NOT a solid coalition under Reagan, they are NOT unified by social conservatism, and they are the eclectic backbone of maga, which people wrongly assume is just inbred prejudiced hillbillies from Nebraska.
>>18603316And normalized relationships with India is bad because...?
>>18604128>it explains how they somehow thought keepingto be fair, there was no way he was running shit and even NPR said that none of the senate confirmed cabinet heads were actually doing anything and basically the entire executive was being run by a bunch of unelected, unappointed, not confirmed career bureaucrats who were not part of the political process. the deep state, if you will. >>18604136>>18604158you can't prove that the waco cultists did anything wrong >>18604150Did H.W. and Clinton have literally any meaningful policy or platform differences? both were anti gun, both were pro nafta, both were open borders cocksuckers (H.W. signed the H1B and student visa bill). H.W. quit the NRA because he loved gun bans so much. H. W. had no problems at all with Souter being a straight up communist on the scotus. at some point someone confronted H.W. and H.W. Said he though Souter was great and that souter was doing an amazing job. H.W. also appointed Sotomayer to a federal judgeshipit's not even like that's the first time both candidates were basically the same. Cleveland and harrison had super similar platforms. There wasn't a ton of difference in terms of platform from like Truman to Ike to kennedy to el BJ to Nixon to ford to carter. I'm sure there are examples of guys who lost who had the same platform as guys who won, but it's not like we learn about the platforms of the losers
>>18604169>H. W. had no problems at all with Souter being a straight up communist on the scotus. at some point someone confronted H.W. and H.W. Said he though Souter was great and that souter was doing an amazing job. H.W. also appointed Sotomayer to a federal judgeshipConversely he also appointed Clarence Thomas, so...
>>18604166imagine if indians were persona non grata like cubans, except they couldn't come here on rafts. zero indianszero scam callszero indian call centers when you need to call customer service zero shitty products made in india
>>18604169I'll give Bush the benefit of the doubt because he had a Democrat Congress his entire administration and could only sign Democrat bills into law. Much of that stuff was not really his fault.
>>18604176Also zero counterweight to China's rising power. Democracies must have each other's backs. Also, most scam callers these days are based on poorer countries than India.
>>18604169>you can't prove that the waco cultists did anything wrongthey didn't, I was replying to someone who assumed Waco types and reshoring manufacturing types only teamed up because they were both chuds, not because they were both victims of Clinton.> Did H.W. and Clinton have literally any meaningful policy or platform differences?Clinton quintupled naturalizations and gave illegals SSI welfare, food stamps, mandated bilingual schooling, Medicaid, banned immigration enforcement at schools, enshrined majority-minority redistricting.If things had just been limited to H1b and student visa, and hypothetically ICE had got going in 1992, the country would be unrecognizable. Only 10 million or so Americans today descend from the student visa -> h1b pipeline and they're a considerably low-fertility group. The H1bs are destructive for America in a lot of other ways, but the demographic crisis would not be happening if Clinton wasn't so gung-ho on illegals, who are really just the worst.
>>18604169>Cleveland and harrison had super similar platformsit was largely a matter of disagreement on tariffs
>>18604182Good. Hannah Arendt wrote that interracial marriage would be the key to global peace.
>>18604182>Clinton quintupled naturalizations and gave illegals SSI welfare, food stamps, mandated bilingual schooling, Medicaid, banned immigration enforcement at schools, enshrined majority-minority redistricting.This was mostly his first two years when Democrats controlled Congress.
>>18604175H.W. 100% only nominated Thomas because Thomas was black and he was filling Thurgood Marshall's "the black seat" and he probably just saw Justice Thomas as the most qualified BLACK PRO BUISNESS judge he could pick and didn't figure Justice Thomas would be in the majority on social rulings since the court was super liberal until Roberts got on it and even then it was still pretty liberal until RBG heroically died to prevent a black man from replacing her>>18604177I don't think he was against any of that shit. He was a CIA man from Massachusetts. Pretty sure he was a socially liberal, give all the money to the rich cuckservitive like Romney and McCain. >>18604181india is a bigger threat to humanity than china. we should have alleged with china and russia to eliminate india.and no, the scam shit comes from india. It's not like the illegals where the illegals come from the countries between mexico and panama and not actually mexico. all of the bad indian shit comes from india
>>18604186> Hannah Arendt[a] (born Johanna Arendt>14 October 1906>Linden, Province of Hanover, Kingdom of >Prussia, German Empireevery time. fucking germans
>>18604201>btw Jewish groups were pissed off when Abe Fortas retired and the USSC had no Jewish justice for the first time in almost 60 years and Nixon didn't appoint a Jewish replacement. he said the Court had no designated black or Jewish seat on it.Nixon also had an opposition Congress his entire presidency. By all accounts he was a traditionally small government conservative who had opposed FDR when he was a kid, but was only able to pass whatever legislation Democrats allowed. One questions if HW Bush was since he was a New England blue blood.
>>18604201>>18604208Jews were fucking seething because Brandon "gave" Breyer's "the jewish seat" to Brown Jackson even though Kagan is literally a jew, so jews are already over represented at 11% vs 2% and from fucking 2010 when Kagan was confirmed until RBG died in 2020 1/3rd of the scotus was jewish
>>18604201The problem was most Jews were/are Democrats so Nixon would have a hard time finding a Republican to fill that seat. In fact literally every Jewish USSC Justice has been a Democrat appointee.
>>18604208I don't think H.W. was socially conservative. Ike seethed about getting tricked into putting commies on the bench. Pretty sure H.W. and Romney were social commies who just wanted to be president and to make money and couldn't give less of a fuck about conservative social issues.
>>18604208i find it most peculiar that he's called the last New Dealer president which contradicts everything i've heard about him and his beliefs
>>18604217>I don't think H.W. was socially conservativeidk he spent a lot of time complaining about the Simpsons and rap music, unless it was just for optics
>>18604189no, the SSI was denied and then he was only able to pass it in 1997 or something to that effect. I don't remember the details, but he was consistently pro-illegal throughout his term. the Elian Gonzalez stunt was just that, a stunt.
>>18604201weird that this post was killed
>>18604223Romney signed some anti fag marriage law in like 2006ish when he was trying to up his profile for the 2008 presidential election and then never really did any anyfag thing outside of that when he wasn't directly in the national spotlight trying to run for president
Really touching bit of recent history how the winter 2020-2021 plan trusters built up a mythos around Thomas possibly invalidating the 2020 election. Edits of Thomas as Bane and Gigachad. Then of course the election is rightfully certified and troons rush in to mock the plan trusters for thinking le based black man would save them. Then five years later, Thomas is running around disenfranchising blacks kek.
>>18604219I think that's just people trying to draw a line as to when the party system created by FDR starts and when the party system created by Reagan starts. Nixon also greatly expanded the size of the federal government with a bunch of new federal departments and environmental regulations
>>18604219idk but Nixon's first public appearance after leaving the White House was a rally in small town Kentucky in 1978. i don't think HW would have been comfortable with that corn fed crowd at all.
>>18604240>Nixon also greatly expanded the size of the federal government with a bunch of new federal departments and environmental regulationsAs he said, that amounted to signing Democrat bills into law. His own party did _not_ control Congress when he was president. Also FWIW, Nixon vetoed the Clean Water Act but it was overridden.
>>18604232Reading about that period is like a fever dream, I have no idea how history books will accurately convey it.>McCain goes on MSNBC>McCain: "Ugh, thank god I get to talk to someone SANE like a libtard for once Haha! Isn't Obama just the most incredible wonderful magical negro you've ever laid your eyes on">MSNBC host: "Yes you're absolutely right, but wait, don't you agree with those Nazi republicans on abortion">McCain: "oh fuck. yeah i guess you're right, I did kind of dislike abortion in the 1980s. I guess I should kill myself. How awesome is Obama btw"meanwhile outside the studio there's a Million Libtard March to Restore Sanity going on because libtards are terrified those evil nazi evangelicals might destroy America by...keeping the gay marriage ban in place.John Podhoretz and Bill Kristol as the real lynchpins of the right, opinion columnists getting exiled and debanked for saying you should tell your kids that black people can be violent.
maga is lowkey a gen X phenomenon and you can see why from what they went through in the 2000s.
>>18604226elian gonzalez was a refugee from communism, not an illegal. escaping cuba is different than being a wetbacklike to the point where other wetbacks hate cubans and argentinians >>18604236thomas is gigabased but he probably didn't have the votes to do what he wanted. there's a bunch of internal memos where it's like >giga basedThomas and Alito>based as fuck letter of the law autistGorsuch>moderate homosexualRoberts, Kavanaugh, ACB>homosexual moderateKagan>anti basedKBJ, RBG, Breyer>illiterateSotomayer >>18604245people blame the president for what congress and the scouts do. retards on /pol/ blame Ike for enforcing brown vs Board of ed, when what the fuck else was he going to do? start a constitutional crisis right after WWII? or foreigners (usually slavs or nations with large chinese and indian populations) intentionally acting dumb about what the current president can do without a filibuster proof majority in order to troll and shitpos
>>18603316>>sign naftaAs a Canadian I know why NAFTA is bad and fucking sucks for Canada since it lead to massive deindustrialization & demilitarization, and accelerated brain drain, among other things, but why do Americans complain about NAFTA? As far as I understand you're basically getting everything you could hope for out of it: Canada no longer competes as a manufacturer, we sell you all our raw resources at preferential rates, and then Canada imports everything from you. We're literally the only cunt on the planet that still buys more stuff from American than China.NAFTA has been a ?huge success? for Americans, I encourage you guys to tell me why you don't like it. This position confuses me.
>>18604254Thomas didn't write many opinions in his early years on the bench except on a few relatively unimportant cases.
>The Rally to Restore Sanity and/or Fear was a gathering on October 30, 2010, at the National Mall in Washington, D.C. The rally was led by Jon Stewart, host of the satirical news program The Daily Show, and Stephen Colbert, in-character as a conservative political pundit, as on his program The Colbert Report, both then seen on Comedy Central.[2] About 215,000 people attended the rally215,000 libtards marching in the street because the Tea Party cons wanted lower taxes. Unreal. All these people are probably walking in a trance now, literally every day waking up to 900,000 forced removal deportations and USAID defunded and the Democratic Party literally without a leader and being torn apart by a black establishment - brown radical rift.
>>18604254The Little Rock integration was a targeted move because Eisenhower decided to enforce it on a small, electorally unimportant, and safe Democrat state as opposed to Texas, a big state which the GOP were then seeking to establish themselves in.
>>18604249yeah McCain must have just agreed to be a sacrificial lamb or something since there was no way he would win after Bush and the 2008 collapse. I'd have to think a lot of republicans were thinking ahead to 2010 and 2012. That and McCain was the only senator to vote against MLK day which is hilarious >>186042532/3rds of white men under 40 voted maga in 2024>>18604259he also famously didn't talk until Scalia died. like there's some weird fact about how from 2006 to 2016 the only thing he said during oral arguments was to ask for the ac to be turned on or something. because he doesn't care about the oral arguments and instead prefers the written arguments and scalia asked all the questions anyway
>>18604258because it led to millions of manufacturing job losses and deindustrialization, and because no one wanted Canada to be deindustrialized or demilitarized either. Americans do not view Canada as a rival. All the sperging about annexing Canada was retarded agitation by news junkies who are obsessed with every line in every new speech from the president.Support for Canada might be one of the most bipartisan strong opinions in all of America since Anglos (who are still the bulk of conservatives) think of Canada as an enlightened polite Anglo forest paradise or they like Alberta, and liberals think of it as a liberal utopia where they'd flee if America became a fascist state.
>>18604192>would be in the majority on social rulings since the court was super liberal until Roberts got on it andthe Court was moving to the right since Nixon, although the justices appointed by previous presidents were there for some time.
>>18604258it sent all the jobs to mexico because mexican labor is so cheap and other countries like CHINA used mexico as a mule to get around tariffs when selling shit to the US >>18604261>>18604249yeah the sanity and fear stuff was in 2010 when obongo lost the house. Based Ted Kennedy having a fucking stroke and then not dying for months in the only based thing he ever did in his life (he also murdered a woman and got away with it) so dems only had a filibuster proof majority of like 120 days. also what was based as a group of congressional dems, ironically including tampon tim, refused to use that majority to pass gun control
>>18604262/pol/ seethes about little rock because they think Ike should have told the SCOTUS to eat shit, which is something only Jackson and Lincoln ever did
>>18604274Lincoln had the excuse of a wartime emergency and Jackson was not going to sic the Army on white men for the Cherokees' sake.
>>18604272they upheld Roe in 1992. the court was also leftist as FUCK in the middle of the century with shit like Reynolds v. Sims where they mandated only large cities may have any representation in the state government
>>18604278>Lincoln had the excuse of a wartime emergencyLincoln had to deny constitutional rights.Either way, Ike wasn't about to tell the scotus to eat shit after he just got back from WWII
>>18604272yet still of the three Reagan justices only Scalia was a reliable conservative
>>18604264>2/3rds of white men under 40 voted maga in 2024yeah but I think Gen X splits the most maga if you do it by generation w/o gender and race.Trump also won big with Melungeons, Assyrian Americans, Portuguese Americans, Beverly Hills Persians, French Canadian lumberjacks, and Maharishi followers. He also swung 11 points higher with Native Americans.All small, weird demographics are feeling the pressure of globohomo and deracination.
>>18604264>2/3rds of white men under 40 voted maga in 2024Because they were retarded enough to believe him when he claimed his platform was no new wars, housing affordability and fighting inflation and now that he's properly betrayed their expectations to pander to zioboomers who need their property values to go up most of them won't bother to turn out again
>>18604292a lot of the generational shit is also just how white a particular generation is
>>18604286South Dakota v. Dole was the biggest dumbfuck ruling of that era and only O'Connor dissented, and her dissent was an appeal to emotion rather than an actual legal or constitutional argument against the law being ruled on.
>>18604298off topic, thirdie. go back to /pol/ so we can all see your eastern yuroflag
>>18604192All of our doctors come from India
>>18604298fine i'll take the bait.his platform was the same as it was in 2016 zoomie. Free trade for the sake of equalizing first-third world incomes LE BAD. Boots on the ground forever wars for the sake of civilizing terrorists who hate us so they can immigrate here LE BAD. But above all, IMMIGRATION LE BAD.That's it, that's all he promised. No he was not going to give you a cheap house. The president can't do that. When the country is 90% white, then everyone will get a free house. Any earlier than that would be literally suicidal, the Mexicans would literally take over if they were all given free houses. Inflation is way down. No american troops have been sent to Iran, we just bombed the shit out of them.He has always been a zionist, if you didn't know he was a zionist you're braindead.
>>18604314a. they do notb. that's only true for third world countries like the UK where they pay the doctors so little they have to import thirdies to be the doctors because it isn't cost effective to become a doctor therec. in the NSF memos from the 80s that got released in the mid 90s, the jewish head of the NSF under reagan specifically wanted h1bs and student visas to lower wages for American STEM jobs to the point where it was no longer worth it for Americans to get advanced degrees d. would you trust a jeet to be your doctor? I wouldn't. they are literally currently having some mass protest because it turns out all of their medical school exams were fraudulent and have been fraudulent for quite some time >>18604317he did promise to lower housing prices via deportation which would lower housing prices, both due to lower demand and because a lot of the pricing and no new housing nimby shit is about keeping nonwhites out of towns since sundown laws and racial covenants are illegal.like unironically if you allowed towns or HOAs to ban nonwhites then housing prices would go down
>>18604338I just like simplifying his platform down to the three, (conventionally) left wing stances on war trade and immigration. If you really understand his positions on these things, you can't disagree with him, no matter your priors.His three major positions are left wing in the European sense. The French revolutionaries would have aligned with him. Back the workers, fight free trade. Back the workers, fight immigration. Back the workers, fight interventionist war. Like Junger, he understood the worker to be the crucial figure of history at the present.The problem is that he had to apply these positions to an incredibly conservative electorate, the most conservative in the world. The only electorate in the first world that still passionately believes in God and the police and the army.He struggled to articulate it at times, and the whole establishment opposed him. Like Bismarck, he was a traitor to his class. But once everyone started getting what he was doing, around 2022-2023, he basically ended up with the backing of the entire population of the country that doesn't want to dispose of America.
>>18604380>fight interventionist warunfortunate choice of words. I meant oppose.
>>18604380>(conventionally) left wing stances on war trade and immigration.left wingers are pro free trade and open border>His three major positions are left wing in the European sense. left wing yuropeans love free trade and open borders>Back the workers,lefties are extremely anti worker, always have been >The only electorate in the first worldThe US and Japan are the only first world countries
>>18604407First half of the 20th century, left-right meant worker-elite and that was the conventional sense before 1960s insanity. It still roughly means that in Europe which is why I called it the European sense.>The US and Japan are the only first world countriesif one election could change this then it isn't really truebritain is 2.5 years/one election away from electing british maga, just wait and see.
>>18604417in bongland they eat salad cream and beans on toast and eels in jello, they are not a first world nation
>>18604460eels in jello is third world shit
>>18603850The murder rate was like twice as high in the 1970’s
>>18604475aryan beasts eat eels in jello, third world scum eat spicy bowls.
>>18603888>we currently have the highest rate of adults living with their parents since the great depression and millennials are worse off than their parents financiallyThis is a trend in developed countries with almost no immigration too, look at Korea and Japan
>>18604493bongs eat spicy bowls. their national dish is fucking chiken tiki marsala. they have indian fast food chains>>18604496Koreans were literally living under a military dictatorship and eating each other 20 years ago
>>18604492You have no idea what you're talking about. It took 6 years of minimum wage work in the 1970s to buy a house. I could stop right there.The cities were 80% white, Portland were 100% white, Chicago was 60% white, Ivy League universities were 90% white and most other universities were 75-100% white, we landed on Mars, there were tens of millions of manufacturing and industrial jobs, highly skilled university positions had no diversity quotas, we discovered superconductivity and the CMBR, great novels were being written, great music was being produced. You have no idea what it was like because you don't want to consider the possibility that the past was better when it was whiter. So you memorized a fact about the absolute worst thing about the era, the rate of black crime in New York, to pretend things have always been bad.>yeah things may be covered in shit now, but remember 55 years ago when there was that one small stain of shit?This is how you sound
>>18604504>bongs eat spicy bowls. their national dish is fucking chiken tiki marsala. they have indian fast food chainsso do they eat eels in jello or do they eat the same fried chicken fast food that we do.
>>18604507>wethey eat salad cream, beans on toast, eels in jello, indian chicken curry and have indian curry fast food
>>18604269>>18604273>Jobs went to Mexico, then they went to China.>Globalist hegemonic continental power not so tough after being globalized.I didn't know that, that's funny. I was completely aware of the massive outsourcing of industries to China, but didn't know Mexico had a hand in that. I can very clearly see that outcome in retrospect.>other countries like CHINA used mexico as a mule to get around tariffs when selling shit to the USInterestingly, this is supposed to be a huge problem with negotiating any kind of trade deal with Canada right now as every SEA nation wants to use our cunt to do exactly that: move product in and out of Canada to avoid American tariffs.
>>18603339Clinton (and Blair in Bongistan) are arguable more responsible for solidifying neoliberalism as a bipartisan economic consensus and taking resistance to it off the political table than Reagan/Thatcher were
>>18603322Funny to imagine the POTUS both caring about and directly ordering the deaths of a few dozen religious nutcases
>>18604566I mean he literally did. everyone is way more pacified now than they were in the early 90s due to the globo homo immigration shit since foreigners don't give a shit about their host country and it's harder to foment solidarity when the nation is full of foreigners and the you know who have been trying to hide and erase national culture. Like Ruby Ridge, which was under H.W. was a big deal. You had the rise of the militia movement that the anti gunners still fucking SEETHE about. like NPR put out a podcast seething about the head of the GOA going to a meeting in like 1993 in 2020. and the OKC bombing, olympic bombing and unibomber would happen later in the decade. Waco was big news because the gaytf went in like retarded cowboys
>>18604492they called that the malaise era for a reason
>>18604506the census definition of "white" includes Jews, Mexicans, Arabs, etc so don't trust those numbers
