>>18603613By reading and hearing the Word of God be preached, accepting Jesus Christ as your savior from hell, for he died on the cross shedding his own blood for the sins of the world, going to hell himself for three full days and three full nights, but coming out and being resurrected from the dead and believing that it was the Heavenly Father’s power that resurrected him.Which means stop thinking about going to hell and start thinking about going to heaven because you are saved and know you going there.Unfortunately, most people I meet are fearful of anything spiritual. I tried to talk about rainbow colors and each one has meaning, and how everything that happens has spiritual meaning and is from God, and so do numbers. That God’s Spirit is everywhere and that the spirit is reflecting all sorts of things. The good and the bad. But that the bad spirits are just revealing their confusion over things. Whereas the good spirits aren’t. The spirit world is like a murky place, like lake water that isn’t transparent. It’s dark and can’t see anything down there because of mud. That’s okay for the Christian. He can still navigate his way. It takes takes prayer and patience. People freak out or don’t believe it. Understandably. The spirit world can be scary. Now everything is a sign from God, everything that happens. Yep! Even bad things. And you can even get spiritual meaning from anything happening around you. So then I think what happens is it is murky and people nope out. They are thinking of crystal balls, tarot cards, that letter game where you ask the spirits to move it and answer your questions. Yes you aren’t supposed to do witchcraft when you look at the spirit realm. Yo’re supposed to be asking God for direction. Angels are supposed to be glorious. So while you can look anywhere for God, ask God for glorious messengers. Focus on those mountain peaks.
>>18603613If you're one of those christian boys, your God promises your salvation, if you simply believe in him. (if you're a hypocrite, he will say he doesn't know you). I think it's the reformation doctrine of sola-fide, that posits that "faith alones saves". The catholics seem to hold to a kind of synergism of works and grace, or through grace.But essentially, if you do believe in hellfire, you definitely believe in God. If you're from a christian background, Right?
Heavenly Messengers (Angels)Psalm 104:4 – "Who maketh his angels spirits; his ministers a flaming fire:"Luke 2:9 – "And, lo, the angel of the Lord came upon them, and the glory of the Lord shone round about them: and they were sore afraid."Luke 24:4 – "And it came to pass, as they were much perplexed thereabout, behold, two men stood by them in shining garments:"Daniel 10:6 – "His body also was like the beryl, and his face as the appearance of lightning, and his eyes as lamps of fire, and his arms and his feet like in colour to polished brass, and the voice of his words like the voice of a multitude."Matthew 28:3 – "His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:"Prophetic and Human MessengersMalachi 3:1 – "Behold, I will send my messenger, and he shall prepare the way before me: and the Lord, whom ye seek, shall suddenly come to his temple, even the messenger of the covenant, whom ye delight in: behold, he shall come, saith the Lord of hosts."Malachi 2:7 – "For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he is the messenger of the Lord of hosts."Isaiah 52:7 – "How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth!"2 Corinthians 8:23 – "Whether any do enquire of Titus, he is my partner and fellowhelper concerning you: or our brethren be enquired of, they are the messengers of the churches, and the glory of Christ."Obviously God’s salvation should come from glorious places and God can do anything.
You just have to accept the fact that you cant win.You either at risk of wasting your life to a lie only to find out we were nothing but monkeys.Or you risk eternal damnation because you didnt do the bare minimum to save your soul.
>>18603690>if you're a hypocrite, he will say he doesn't know youVerse?>>18603613Well once you wake up in it you'll no longer have to fear it - You'll know you're there forever. Either that or get saved.
>>18603613If christian mythology is correct I'd lead an uprising alongside my oppressed brothers in hell to slaughter ywhw the psychopathic god
When Jesus was performing miracles on earth, there were people like his family who just looked at him like pff, that’s just Jesus. He is just my family. He can’t do anything. So there is a verse that says “and no miracles were performed that day.”I.e. God was defeated by people just not believing in Him.But notice it didn’t stop Jesus . He always going to where God needs him and performing miracles.That’s what I need, that is what we all need. It’s better than a genie in a lamp. Because it speaks of eternal life, never giving up, and thenfulfillment of our desires of our hearts. The thing which we wished for coming true without sin.
>>18603690"Show me your faith apart from works, and I by my works will show you faith." (James 2:18)"For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision nor uncircumcision counts for anything; the only thing that counts is faith working through love." (Galatians 5:6)Faith saves, but saving faith works.
>>18603613>How do you deprogram yourself from the expectation of Santa Claus on Christmas?OP, I know this is hard, but you come from a long line dumb liars who traumatized their children with Semitic fairy tales because they themselves had no honor, backbone, or exceptional intelligence. You can be the first to break the cycle.
>>18603697Matthew 7, you don't know it?21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’
I ask and then God sends me my wife and then she just leaves. Because she doesn’t believe. That isn’t what I asked for. I asked for my wife to fall in love with me and marry me like she promised me she would. God told me it’s like a cantaloupe. I guess that means waiting for ripeness. So I thanked Him for sending me sweet cantaloupe, because it takes so sweet and good. But God truly is just defeated by unbelief. But not stopped.
>>18603613Think about what you’re actually being asked to believe: that the creator of a universe with 2 trillion galaxies decided the optimal method of communicating with humanity was a single illiterate-era tribe in the Bronze Age Levant, that this message got transmitted through decades of oral tradition before anyone wrote it down, that the manuscripts we have disagree with each other on basic details (two contradictory genealogies for Jesus, two different orders of temptation, resurrection accounts that can’t be reconciled on who showed up when), and that out of the thousands of documented religious traditions across human history (most of which also claim exclusive access to ultimate truth, complete with their own miracles, prophecies, and devoted believers willing to die for them) this is the one that happens to be correct, and it happens to be the one you were born into. Every apologetic move you’ve been given (the resurrection is well-attested, the manuscripts are reliable, prophecy was fulfilled) has a mirror version used by Muslims for the Quran’s preservation, by Mormons for the Book of Mormon’s witnesses, by countless traditions for their own miracle claims, and you already reject those with the same skeptical tools being asked of you here, except you applied them inconsistently. The uncomfortable question isn’t “is the evidence for Christianity bad,” it’s “would this evidence convince me if I’d been raised somewhere else.”
>>18603711Greater is he that is in me than he that is in the world.Meaning those boys outside performing works that are mocking me as my next door neighbors who threw God out , said the Bible doesn’t matter, and showed partiality to liking my dad but not his son, and not forgiving him despite sinning against me because they are Roman Catholic. I am Jesus Christ and they are going to hell already because there is no salvation in what they are doing. Even if I forgive them for their actions.
>>18603718>Matthew 7, you don't know it?Sure I do. What you posted isn't it, first of all. Second, that verse doesn't apply to believers no matter how hypocritical they are. Enjoy burning. I'll laugh heartily when you stand for your damnation on that very day.
Is an antifa or homeless drunk or druggie walking down the road performing works because he has his feet down in the earth, greater than those who are saints in heaven and finding rest, just because he is in the earth and “performing works”?No because Jesus condemned their works as filthy rags. Though they have works. It’s about Obedience. Did God affirm their works? Did they affirm their works are of Christ or did they throw Christ Jesus out?1. Judging the Neighbor while Consorting with the WickedPsalm 50:16-20"But unto the wicked God saith, What hast thou to do to declare my statutes, or that thou shouldest take my covenant in thy mouth? Seeing thou hatest instruction, and castest my words behind thee. When thou sawest a thief, then thou consentedst with him, and hast been partaker with adulterers. Thou givest thy mouth to evil, and thy tongue frameth deceit. Thou sittest and speakest against thy brother; thou slanderest thine own mother's son."James 4:11-12"Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge. There is one lawgiver, who is able to save and to destroy: who art thou that judgeth another?"Romans 2:1"Therefore thou art inexcusable, O man, whosoever thou art that judgest: for wherein thou judgest another, thou condemnest thyself; for thou that judgest doest the same things."2. Hiring or Using Wicked People for Evil WorksMicah 7:3"That they may do evil with both hands earnestly, the prince asketh, and the judge asketh for a reward; and the great man, he uttereth his mischievous desire: so they wrap it up."Proverbs 18:5"It is not good to accept the person of the wicked, to overthrow the righteous in judgment."Proverbs 29:12"If a ruler hearken to lies, all his servants are wicked."
3. Perverted and Hypocritical Judgment of a NeighborLeviticus 19:15-16"Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment: thou shalt not respect the person of the poor, nor honour the person of the mighty: but in righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbour. Thou shalt not go up and down as a talebearer among thy people: neither shalt thou stand against the blood of thy neighbour: I am the Lord."Habakkuk 1:4"Therefore the law is slacked, and judgment doth never go forth: for the wicked doth compass about the righteous; therefore wrong judgment proceedeth."Proverbs 21:10"The soul of the wicked desireth evil: his neighbour findeth no favour in his eyes."These verses says that my enemy is hiring the enemy and they are wicked people who hate me and even laying in waiting to set traps for me to call the police and use the government to say I did something wrong. I see them outside my window right now, mocking after cursing me.I know that my Lord knows exactly what is going on.
>>18603741Sorry, what's your point? Also what's your denomination?
>>18603731>that verse doesn't apply to believers no matter how hypocritical they areBut..what I said is just the mainstream christian understanding of this verse. What are you talking about?
>>18603711I might even suggest that faith in the sense of "intellectual assent to some doctrine" isn't necessary at all, going by Romans 2:6-11 and the parable of the sheep and the goats.
>>18603746>>>/x/gangstalking
>>18603711You're a braindead moron.>>18603748>What are you talking about?Maybe this will clear it up: What are the people in that passage trusting in to save them?
>>18603613https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoI0KTnLEm8These two priests go over every theological concern Christians can have in great detailI havent listened to this episode yet, but I would be shocked if it wasn't interesting and insightful
>>18603747Don’t be sorry for not understanding. I’m partially speaking to God.Independent, fundamental, conservative, KJV bible no apocrypha, the blood of Jesus Christ he shed on the cross Baptist.Also I am speaking to the Lord spiritually at the same time as proving a point nationwide because it is surreal. Today I watched the war room on AlexJonesLive.com show live footage of where Black Lives Matter rioted in an intersection and it is still to this day closed down as the Colins Ruiz Autonomous Zone. BLM still hasn’t been judged for what it did by the country. I don’t know the intersection they closed down or what town that is, maybe if people found out if the people there need it back up and a city official is found that will determine what happened, then it can be re-opened. BLM riots happened nationwide and I see the democrats still shutting down streets in my city and turning it into walking zones. They keep trying to build more apartments and hotels and send more people who try to occupy every space that there is with somebody walking. They argue that this presence in the earth is “dominant/alpha male/causes the saints in heaven to recede” thus they are doing more works than the saints in heaven. They are accusing of being lazy for having feet in the house. Which is where your wife is supposed to be btw. I live with my parents in a huge mansion and never left and that is called biblical stewardship taking care of the home. I am spiritually defensive because my wife’s family who promised to marry me twice 33 years apart is Roman Catholic and hires a drunk who does illegal drugs who is in his upper fifties believes that pretending to work outside because he has no money is more righteous than me in my house minding my own business. I also will travel and see more and more homeless people coming from the local apartments walking to our neighborhood. And more and more foreigners are becoming increasingly occupying every space in the city -
>>18603747- I have never known any American to just start existing in every space in the earth that there is, hoping to be found on every street, somebody walking. It is literally some sort of new religion not from here where they are arguing with the saints kin heaven just like revelation says the beast will do. Satan is in the earth in the end times. While the saints are not. The beast blapshemes those in heaven in prophecy, and it is happening.
You can lie to yourself and troon out, but you’ll never be a woman and you will burn in hell forever if you don’t get right with God.
>>18603753You're an oddball, but i see your point. I always figured it meant hollow professions of one's faith in Jesus. merely calling him your 'lord, lord', without a sincerity of belief (doesn't have to include works as an affirmation of that belief). And this is what makes you a hypocrite.But even taking an unqualified view of hypocrisy to its logical-end would entail you could lose a subjective quality called 'sincerity of belief' overtime. This could go against the ethos of christianity, making salvation conditional on fluctuating inner states. Then god's free gift isn't really 'secure'.But I'm just waffling. I don't know anything bout christianity.
>>18603784>Independent, fundamental, conservative, KJV bible no apocrypha, the blood of Jesus Christ he shed on the cross Baptist.Great, I'm glad you're going to heaven.>mindnumbing stream of consciousnessBoring. Have fun with that.>>18603808>but i see your point.What's my point? You can state it in a single sentence if you understand it.
>>18603808Nta.>I always figured it meant hollow professions of one's faith in Jesus.That is the obvious meaning.>Then god's free gift isn't really 'secure'.It isn't. It's like a plant. You have to take care of it to get the fruit. See picrel from Galatians. Faith maybe involving something other than hollow professions of faith becomes less terrifying when you stop believing in the absurd doctrine of eternal torment, but that's a longer argument.
>>18603827>It isn't. It's like a plant. You have to take care of it to get the fruit.You're so fucked. Tick tock.
>>18603825Sorry if I am bugging you by continuing to respond to you. But i must persist.But if we are going to heaven, then my stream of consciousness is important to God because he promised to fulfill our desires of our heart. Which means that “mind numbing stream of consciousness” you are saying is boring. Since it is about my wife who promised to marry me twice 33 years apart, that means I shall not lack in anything good as a saved Christian. I lack her falling in love with me because her mom is Roman Catholic and threatened to kill me legally. So where is God’s wife for me I was promised? I believe in God and that she is received. So I know He cares. Even if you don’t
>>18603904>So where is God’s wife for me I was promised?Probably sitting around waiting for you to get over your oneitis. Stop being cringe.
>>18603613Start by Loving God.
>>18603613>How do you deprogram yourself from the fear of Hell?For me it was the fact that basically all Near Death Experience people report going to Heaven, like, over 90% of people brought back say they went to Heaven. And of the very, very, thin (less than 3%) minority of people who say they went to Hell; there's always something clearly wrong with them and it's never a surprise or "what did I do???" To that point - of the people who do report Hell a portion of them say they could, and did, walk out of it. They could just leave. It wasn't EASY, but they weren't trapped. It just comes off as a very lenient system and that the average person is simply not sinful enough to warrant any kind of exposure to Hell. That and the people who insist everybody is going to Hell, like this Anon: >>18603796 very obviously do not believe in God. At all.
>>18603613Study Buddhism. Hell is finite, your time there is finite. It has a society like ours with rulers, even if its worlds are filled with suffering. While it's difficult to practice good morality and stay on the Buddhist path, it is still theoretically possible to do so. And if you get visited by a Bodhisattva like Ksitigarbha, then you are fortunate as you will progress further on the Buddhist path.
