Pop quiz. Time to test your reading comprehension. Consider the following passage from the Bible:>Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.>Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?>And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.Just one question, pass/fail: In what are these people, the "many" in the second verse, trusting for their salvation?
>>18603763Extra credit: Are these people who lost their salvation, or who never had it in the first place?
baptize your babies and stop using the kjv
>>18603767God's word really stings, doesn't it shitskin?
>>18603763They are trusting their works for salvation
>>18603770What is wrong with you?
>>18603771Congratulations, you pass! Impressive, last time I posed this question on here I got 0 correct responses.
>>18603763>cherry picking passages instead of reading the entire contextngmi
>>18603785There's nothing wrong with me. I hate Catholic preachers. >>18603787Non-responsive. You fail.
>>18603763It's every liar, every retard, every pathetic weakling, everyone whose heart is cold. Most of the nons probably will not make it. So many of them simply are not capable of true compassion. But plenty retarded selfish whites will also be denied. As for Protestants, Catholics, Orthodox christians, there will be overlap. Each sect will be surprised how much God will accept the other two. But compromises of course are made. Each got some things wrong. But like the book says if your heart is true that's all you need
>>18603788Why do you hate brown people? Do you think that’s what God wants from you? Do you think you will not be judged?
>>18603792I don't hate brown people only the ones who are soullessly deceptive
>>18603798Then repent of this hate speech >>18603770
>>18603786Now let's continue the exercise: Those of the first verse, in what are they trusting for their salvation?
>>18603789Non-responsive. Fail.>>18603792>Why do you hate brown people? Do you think that’s what God wants from you? Do you think you will not be judged?Because you're shitting up white countries and the internet. I think God wants me to be racist. I don't think I will be judged for that.>>18603799That's a different guy.>>18603802That's not really continuing the exercise since we have to bring in other material. But I'll answer you plainly: They are believing in Jesus' finished work on the cross. >And this is the will of him that sent me, that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life: and I will raise him up at the last day.John 6:40 King James
>>18603812>I don't think I will be judged for that.Think again, Numbers 12. See also the Epistle to the Galatians. You’re on the road to hell, fool
>>18603815>Trusting in worksNope. It's literally impossible for me to go to Hell. You, however, are going unless you repent of dead works and believe on Jesus.
>>18603763They are trusting in their own idea of what is wonderful works is. They should have only trusted in Jesus Christ’s work on the cross, his own shed blood for us on the cross for our sins, which is our salvation and free gift of eternal life and only way to heaven.Unfortunately I have met these people who call me lazy because they are in the earth and accusing me of not doing wonderful works for the Lord. But I do, my dad gives me chores and I perform those daily chores every day. The same people are my wife’s family and she promised to marry me twice, 33 years apart. I tried to communicate with her about how I still love her after all these years but her mom is Roman Catholic and hates us except my dad she said. But I suspect that isn’t true either. I just give it to God to help me and give me my wife. She is obviously living in darkness and I never got a chance to actually talk to my wife , her mom shut everything down and she can’t talk to me. Her dad still talks to my dad but it’s about how much money he wants to rip off of other neighbors in the neighborhood from sueing them. I had to literally get safe from my neighbors who tried to kill me legally and pray for my wife I received after she asked me to and then her mom made her lie and say she didn’t and that my 35+ years from waiting in our childhood promises never happened. She tried to force me to say it never happened and that only Jesus Christ can condemn them to hell meaning I can’t judge them. So I began to say yes I am Jesus Christ and these things are true. My wife has the same name as me and we both approached each other at six years old and said we’d marry each other. I grew up with her and her sisters. Her mother made them disappear and coaxed me my whole life and then tried to kill me.
>>18603824>They are trusting in their own idea of what is wonderful works is.Close enough. Pass. Stop smoking drugs.
>>18603812>we have to bring in other materialNo we don't. Refer to the verse.>Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord,Faith.>but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heavenWorks.
>>18603816>It's literally impossible for me to go to HellDo you ever stop and think how irrational this is?
>>18603836The will of the father is defined in John 6:40, which is why I correctly cited it. Enjoy Hell.
>>18603847>Do you ever stop and think how irrational this is?I'm not sure what you mean. The statement is true and consistent with scripture, so it's not irrational in that regard. It's sometimes unbelievable how gracious the LORD is that he saw fit to save me, so his love can seem irrational I suppose. I certainly didn't deserve for Jesus to die for my sins. Thank God he did, otherwise I'd be going to the same burn pit as refuse like you.
>>18603830I am a saved Christian and I am ringing a spiritual alarm , not smoking drugs. I am a white, Christian, conservative. I don’t do drugs. I have read the entire Bible from beginning to ending and it took me 10 years to do it at my own pace. I am sharing what happened to our childhood promises to marry at six years old, which is also the same age I got saved in a southern Baptist church. I told her when we were 8 not to worry that we were going to school now and going to get educations. That it wouldn’t matter that we went to different schools. I gave our childhood promises to God to take care of it. I begged God I wanted to really marry her. In Jesus Christ. Still praying hard and waiting in faith and in faithfulness to our promises. Her mom then revealed she is Roman Catholic and hates me and my family after telling me good luck and that’s how she married her husband is from childhood promises , though hers was at their school. Not across the street is where me and my wife of faith is. Saying, there is no salvation outside of the Roman Catholic Church, and her beliefs over here are different. She doesn’t care about what the Bible says. She said no, they don’t care about Jesus Christ, or God, or what they say. I spent 35+ years of my life waiting for her. Not a day went by that I wasn’t outside thinking of her or she couldn’t see I still love her. I used to pas by her house to go to my other family who lives on the other side of them. She told me she wishes her daughter was more like me when I started going to college asking about her to come home. To the apostles, Jesus said shake the dust off your feet of those who reject you (they will use the government to kill you…), so I had to get away from them and can only pray for her now. Needing God’s divine intervention for this situation.
>>18603816It’s literally certain you will go to hell, you are a conceited, impenitent fool. The problem is that you’re some schizo neo-Anabaptist heretic who believes a parody of sola fide. The sola fide thing was always about how penitent people could be saved. This unacceptable idea that impenitent people could be saved would not be acceptable to either side
>>18603861I really, really do not care about the details of your personal life. It's bizarre, imprudent behavior to start oversharing on that wise, and it makes you sound schizo or drugged.
>>18603863Great! Enjoy burning.
>>18603865I disagree because,God does, and over sharing would only be identifiable information on the internet.And two, God said let people speak even if just to himself and God."If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God."You are welcome to ask questions and even to help my testimony as another Christian. Supposed to remember God can do anything. For nothing is too Hard for the Lord.
>>18603860I would never trust you around children
>>18603872Yeah you will loser.
>>18603763>In what are these people, the "many" in the second verse, trusting for their salvation?Trusting evidence the text concedes (miracles) as an apologetic category having evidentiary weight.
>>18603880Wouldn't want them hearing about Jesus, right?>>18603897M'lord.
>James 2:24thoughts?!
>>18603902>Trusting evidence the text concedes (miracles) as an apologetic category having evidentiary weight.Sorry, that's not correct. You fail.
>>18603912>James 2:24>thoughts?!Men are justified before other men by their works, since we can't read the hearts of men.
>>18603902What game is this?
>>18603912Papists have read James 2:24 10 thousand times but verses 23 and 25 not once.
>>18603763Some retarded jew.
>>18603915Yes, it is correct, miracles are not real. Really the passage functions almost as a self-undermining admission: supernatural displays are religiously unreliable signals, detached from the moral or relational criteria that actually matter. If miracle-working can be performed by people who turn out to be "workers of iniquity" and total strangers to the judge in question, then miracles were never good epistemic evidence of anything in the first place.
>>18603854The will of the fatherThat you are supposed to doIs "that every one which seeth the Son, and believeth on him, may have everlasting life"Do you not notice that this is a will you cannot do, because it is god who gives the everlasting life, not you? And therefore, it is another will that you are to do?Anyway. It is my personal conviction that supposed faith that does not result in works was not faith to begin with. A man needs both.Also wishing hell upon another does not strike me as very christian.
>>18603919>>18603922>Chapter rebuking believers for not doing good works towards the poorSola Fide in shambles
>>18603930>Do you not notice that this is a will you cannot do, because it is god who gives the everlasting life, not you?No, I don't notice that, because I chose to believe on Jesus.>Anyway. It is my personal conviction that supposed faith that does not result in works was not faith to begin with.Anyway. Have fun burning.
>>18603935>Being told not to sin means you're going to Hell if you sinYour brain is worthless. I'm going to Heaven forever. Keep stoking those flames, Papist.
>>18603942James 2 falsifies Sola Fide completelyand if you disregard it you are openly proclaiming Sola Scriptura is falseSo which one is it?here go read it:https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=James%202&version=KJV
>>18603763My favorite verses
>>18603942If you sin, you’re going to hell for your sins. Period. If you don’t go to hell, the only reason is because you were sinless, which can only be accomplished through the imputed righteousness of Jesus Christ.
>>18603763>I never knew youFor he knows his own, from before their birth, even in the womb he knows his own that are of God, his children. For them and them alone was the only begotten Son provided, although it is true that the world is saved from hell through their salvation in Christ.Many will not understand this, or refuse to accept it, but it came to pass and the kingdom of heaven was established upon the earth, as it will be again, because God will not suffer that his sacrifice was made in vain.
>>18603947This has been addressed by Baptist preachers countless times. I'm not explaining it to you. You can't understand the Bible anyway, because you reject salvation. Enjoy Hell.
>>18603947You have never read James 2 nor the rest of the Book of James.
>>18603950Right, like I said I'm never going to Hell.>>18603949>>18603951Non responsive. You both fail.
>>18603955In all likelihood, you are in hell right now, the literal and biblical definition of hell which is upon the earth as it always was.
>>18603960>In all likelihood, you are in hell right now, the literal and biblical definition of hell which is upon the earth as it always was.Nope. Hell's hotter.
>>18603960It is appointed to man but once to die and after this the judgement.
Is the Yama really sending that many people to hell? Shiki needs to take a break.
>>18603954I just read it right now, it says 6 (six) times that faith without works is a dead and worthless faithThere is no amount of cope that a Baptist could come up with that absolves their fake faith from James 2>>18603952
>>18603936If I have faith in jesus, how can I not follow his example? Help the poor, love the sinner, cast out the money lender from the temple? What would jesus do? These are the works. If you do not perform them even when you could, you do not have faith.
>>18603974>If I have faith in jesus, how can I not follow his example?By choosing to do something else.>What would jesus do?You're not like Jesus.>These are the works. If you do not perform them even when you could, you do not have faith.It's not lost on anyone with a brain that you're trying to redefine faith so you can keep worshipping Mary. Good luck with that. Tick tock.
>>18603965born in hell, and die in hell, that is the gist of it for most, yes
>>18603982>so you can keep worshipping MaryImplying implications I never implied.
>>18603969I don’t believe you ever have, you people read epic twitter memes that own the protties and literally never darken the door of a bible
>>18603990nice red herringhow does any of that invalidate James 2 tho?