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With whom was fate more cruel and unjust: Native Americans or Black people?
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>>18609790
Black Native Americans
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>>18609790
>cruel and unjust
the white man has bent over backwards trying to make of your kinds men, to elevate you into the kingdom of heaven as children of God, but you are unworthy and your judgement has come or will come soon enough that you do and have always belonged in hell
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Blacks would never have made it to the new world if they weren't imported there by whites
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>>18609798
>whites
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>>18609790
Native Americans, they died from lacking biological immunity to germs
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>>18609798
I think you are wrong by 200 years.
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>>18609815
thats some dumb bullshit and you should feel ashamed if you believed it
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>>18609790
Fate? You're really going to blame their historical hardships to fate rather than the horrid imperialism and racism of the United States?
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>>18609792
the white man has bent backwards genociding half of the continents of the earth
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>>18609790
Native americans, blacks should be thankful
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>>18610810
>>18610803
Your days of blaming everyone else for your failures have come to an end and the bill is due.
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>>18610810
If the conquistadors had totally eradicated the native population and European settlers moved in, the national IQ would be far higher and consequently standards of living.

It is ironic how all the problems in your country today would be solved if we actually were the racist devils you think we are.
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>>18609790
The Natives were subject to downright apocalyptic losses before most of them even saw a single white man. Smallpox fucked them up so bad that the nomadic tribes found on the western expansion were often post-apocalyptic remnants who no longer had the manpower to live a sedentary lifestyle like their forebears had.
And that's before you get to all the deliberate massacres and raping and treaty violation and so on.
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>>18609790
Native Americans, 100%. Blacks suffered initially by being turned into slaves, but at least they have their own neighbourhoods while receiving SNAP and other welfare benefits today. Not to mention that Africa itself is still majority African, so returning there is always an option, though this never happens since the US is a better place to live.

Natives have lost all of their ancestral lands which means that there's nowhere for them to go. Unlike Blacks they were also genocided (at least culturally) since they didn't make for good lapdogs.
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Native americans because aleast black americans get to be the most culturally influential people of the last 2 centuries
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>>18609790
Black people still have an entire continent to themselves, so most definitely Native Americans.
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>>18609790
>Cruel
Either or, I suppose? Do you feel like its cruel when you burn your garbage?
>Unjust
Didn't happen. What was built is white society, the source of all technological, social, and political change of note in the world in the last 250 years. Had both of them been exterminated to the last man, and they weren't, it still would have been entirely justified by what it did for the better good of mankind.
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>>18609815
He's said to have died alongside almost all of his fleet (his voyage relied on nothing but dugout canoes). Even assuming Mansa Musa didn't make up the story and at least one of his men managed to make it to south america, they *definitely* would've died not too long after.
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>>18610936
> since the US is a better place to live.
Very few africans in the americas actually have an african state to return to.
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>>18611023
We bought them a country, its called Liberia.
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>>18611024
NTA but none of them had any cultural ties to that area. It would be like sending Anglos to Hungary
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>>18609790
Native americans, infinitely so, black americans are one of the most priviledged races on the planet
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>>18611026
the real reason they didn't go back is that grifting and mooching off of white civilization is better than having to live amongst their own kind in the hell their sort creates for themselves
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>>18611026
They don't have any cultural ties to ours, either. Daily reminder that none of the founding fathers thought of blacks as potential citizens. They were farm equipment that had kids, no more or less than that.
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>>18611035
>They don't have any cultural ties to ours, either.
Sure but at that point they were already second and third generation African-Americans so why go to some foreign land when you could just stay?
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>>18609790
The fact that even to this day native americans are the most disenfranchised race in all aspects and barely talked about even by so called "leftists" in modern discourse has radicalized into a blood and soil ethnonationalist.
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>>18611038
Because they're not wanted here and actually causing severe problems for the nation in which they live. Its not about what happens to them, its about what happens to us. Americans, proper ones, are the world protagonists. It'll be Americans that drag the rest of the planet kicking and screaming into the next age or decide to end them. Anything that drags down that sole cadre of important people should be dealt with. Simple as.
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>>18609819
Too bad the natives from Mali match perfectly with the descriptions Columbus gave when he described the sea faring traders that met with American natives.

I know you live in fear of the BBC but it turns out they were here before Europe "accidentally" discovered America via a well-documented rapid equatorial current route.
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>>18610810
Meanwhile your mom bends over backwards to suck my cock
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>>18611021
Mansa Musa was a fraud.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-nzafFycvJc
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>>18609810
Fake and gay. If all it took was white people coofing then why did it take so long for the mongols to be conquered?

The idea that the Americas remained in perfect isolation since 1492 and that the natives were fucking around for 20,000 years and never evolved past stone age hunter gatherers is more retarded than what North Koreans are taught about the world.

It's also been quietly refuted by DNA evidence that hard links Malay/Javanese people with the southwestern indigenous tribes, as well as irrefutable trade and cultural exchange dating from 800-1200.
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>>18611194
>look I posted the masonic chud slop again

I'm taking the word of Iberian cartographers over some trust fund raped rapist.
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>>18609792
Retard /pol/tranny
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>>18609790
Natives fell apart due to sickness, infighting between tribes and the white men coming in. The black were sold by their own people.
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>>18611194
> Falling for blatant propaganda
Lmao.

While Musa's status as the richest man actually is unfounded, it's completely irrelevant to this topic.

> inb4 Al-Umari isn't a reliable source

Many of the things he reported Mansa Musa saying align with facts that most would not know, with the most damning of them being the fact that Mali was the source of copper for the forest-belt kangdoms, where it was in high demand due to Ile-Ife (his most southerly independent neighbor).
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>>18613013
Al-Umari's relative accuracy on the doings of the western sudan would suggest that either:

A: This supposed voyage actually happened (which means a few blacks COULD have made it to south america)

or

B: Mansa Musa lied to improve his image

I recall that Ibn Khaldun was actually told of a kang who sounded suspiciously similar to Musa that instead came to power via violence. Assuming this mysterious kang actually was Mansa Musa would give him a motive to make up the story.
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>>18611185
Africans never even discovered fucking Cape Verde of Canary Islands which are right next to their coast. You must be total dumbass to think they conducted voyages across the Atlantic
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>>18610810
They mostly of died of diseases. Only about 50K natives in North America died in wars with white people
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>>18609790
Blacks. Natives had plenty of land and resources, navigable rivers etc. but never did much out of it.
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>>18614766
Despite their ancestors being buckbroken farming equipment, niggers are now spoiled rotten by liberal whites who treat them as retarded kids that need to be shoehorned into every aspect, the same doesn't apply to injuns
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>>18609790
American Indians had it way worse. Even today they barely have anything going for them.
>inb4 muh casinos
Only a handful of them (mainly in the southwest) took advantage of this loophole to build profitable gambling businesses. The vast majority are poorfags who live like trailer park trash.
>>18615172
>right wing is when you hate niggers
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>>18610810
>da heckin genocide of bug eyed goblinos
so what?
Theyre ugly, Whites are pretty.
More Whites is ALWAYS good.
>no mame gueey i no uglito i humano deservo of dignitario un respecito
no you are an animal.
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>>18615186
/pol/tranny cope
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>>18615186
snowtroons are infertile cucks who don't breed, they will be replaced by mexicans, menas, indians and africans, I hope to see they day white genocide actually happens, as for now I rejoice watching them being replaced and dying off
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>>18615192
>>18615198
you are ugly and your entire race will perish in a single war with the White man.
You live at the mercy of the world conquering race.
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>>18615226
/pol/tranny meltdown
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>>18615226
>you are ug-AAACK
Total snowtroon genocide :)



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