Siege mentality. (You) are the one with the right ideas, everyone else is a police stooge, or an agent provocateur, or they're a pinko in bed with capitalists that will sell you out for a wage increase, or a vanguardist robespierre fetish secretly fantasizing about killing everyone else in your group, or a third-worldist who wants to cave your cracker head in. They can't trust each other and they think everyone is out to get them which is partially true but it breeds mutual animosity between "flavors" of leftism. In non-communist countries it manifests in passive aggressive back and forth debates in political pamphlets, in communist countries you're being dragged into a show-trial and lined up against the wall as a "rightist counterrevolutionary revisionist wrecker."
>>18613397Not exclusively a communist thing. All extremist ideologies have thishttps://youtu.be/ZITP93pqtdQAlso compare how islamic extremists put vastly more effort into blowing up and machine gunning other muslims for having slightly different ideas about islam than they do to blowing up westerners.
>>18613571Extremist right wing ideologies tend to get more along in times of necessity (like killing leftwingers) and have less infighting. They can bicker between themselves, but it's mostly due to personal ambitions (I wanna be the one in charge) and less ideological.See Spanish civil war.
I think the left is defined more by its ideas, and fights over ideas are very real. The right is more straight up power-oriented in my opinion. I've never been "on the right," and I'm not saying the right doesn't have ideas either, it's just that they're more willing to embrace pure tactics for the sake of getting into power, which is their great strength. The right is also good at reinventing itself and manufacturing a new version of themselves, a "new right," but over time they have to prune off various parts of their coalition which believed that it wasn't always just a power grab once the fraud is revealed and the neocons never left or whatever. (You should just be a neocon IMO.)A big problem the left has is that it attracts people who really should just join a church or a bowling team because they have unfulfilled emotional needs. Maybe you can blame capitalism for this (and there might be an argument there actually) but in any event what they really want is to be high up on some social hierarchy and to have everyone listen to them because they're a big shot. Young men who don't go to church can substitute that with video games where you can shoot people or paint maps in the color of your favorite fantasy LARP regime, but once you get a little older and realize that doesn't really matter. But you're not religious either. So what do? You can join a political group and then work your way into a position of power and then expel everyone until only a tiny group remains which then becomes a cult that worships you as some godling on earth.
>>18613397>why are*Retard ESL
"why do right wing authoritarians and right wing libertarians argue? they're all right wing, shouldn't they all be on the same side?"
>>18613927How many languages do you speak?
>>18613982Three, as well as American sign language. I love when retarded ESLs like you use that line. You think that speaking in a hilariously broken attempt at English somehow makes you bilingual. No Sanjay, you actually have to learn basic grammar rules before making some snarky comment about how many languages you (barely) speak.
>>18613994Obviously you understood what op was trying to say considering that you corrected his grammar, so what's the issue? Does reading broken english hurt your feelings?
>>18613397vid related:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ovdCpbehfNg
>>18613397They're allies who think they will be the one who will sit on the throne when it's done. So once they start doing well they start infighting to take over unless they already have a "king" then the group that be right to be the one to take over once his term ends. They didn't have one after Biden and Biden funny enough by pushing Harris as his VP. Made it so they have no heir and everyone fight just to be the new leader.The Right still has Trump leading, however they at least have a idea of what they want to do. Plus They have at least three people who could run in 28 and most people would accept. From Marco Rubio, JD Vance, and Ron Desantis. Who does the left have? Harris was forced on the in 24 and everyone knows she wouldn't be pick willingly, Sanders shat the bed twice now and what little fanbase he did have is gone now, Newsom is a joke outside of CA and he is not hot in CA anymore. AOC is hated in her own state outside of district. Also they current being eaten alive by commies and funny enough are in the "RED"
>>18613397I dont think its some fundamental thing to leftism. Republicans had the same thing too in 1880s where at one point the GOP tried to simultaneously be the party of Robber Barons, Midwest Farmers, and Civil Rights remnants from Abolitionism. At one point, the party has to pick 1.Same thing with the Democrats: are they the party of Islam? The party of feminists? The party of LGBT? The party of Communists? Its basically the same identity crisis as the GOP in the Gilded Age.Even now with right wingers, if there were no leftists, the infighting for right wingers would be Free Market CATO globalists vs the religious Great Awakening crowd vs realpolitik social darwinists. And the people who ignore this just say>yes, but these 3 groups all just want a "trvd society"
>>18613397Because they are atheist nihilists with no values they can't be expected to follow a moral code without oversight, they can only be wrangled together by a caudillo like Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot or Kim Il Sung.In democratic countries the same principle apples, albeit without purges. They see potential 'revolutionaries' in groups like transsexuals, people alienated from those rational and principled enough to tell them the truth. They instead tell these people what they want to hear "men can be women!" "black people would be IQ 100 and low crime if it weren't for racial microaggressions and generational trauma!"However they are not the only people telling them this, they are not the only nihilist degenerates of course, there are competitors from among the left, so naturally the sociopaths in charge of these cults spit venom at each other and get their followers to do the same. They do so even if the right is growing in power, since it would all be for nothing if some other "schmuck" ends up in charge of the left anyway.
>>18614048Horrible cartography of the modern right wing there nigga. CATO types have zero influence these days, they're locked out of all positions of power. Massie got primaried by 10 points. Haitian TPS expired without extension. You can't name a single remaining influential CATO RW guy>religious great awakening vs realpolitik darwinistsI have no clue what you are trying to say here. There are evangelicals, there are racist nativists, there are foreign interventionists, but these groups have huge overlap and basically every powerful figure in the admin is simultaneously openly religious, a racist nativist, a "realpolitik" foreign policy navigator who is willing to intervene when he thinks US can benefit. I think you can sense there are three main issues - trade, war, and immigration - and there are figures on the right both for and against all three, but I really don't think there's much disagreement at this point. Almost everyone has the same moderate take: on trade, get some domestic manufacturing restored, but keep inflation low and profit high. On war, only intervene when we can benefit, no liberation war, and no boots on the ground ever. On immigration, deport them all but do it slowly and legally and don't try some stupid shit like trying to use removal orders as arrest warrants.
>>18614119The right are more divided in opinion and it seems contradictory, but really it is not if you take a pace back and read between the lines.The level of hyper conformity you see among the left is not normal, it is barely human even. Black people commit the most violence against transsexuals, yet BLM supports trans rights. Why would this be? The same gangsters from the hood looting "white privileged bourgeois" stores believe transwomen are real women and use their pronouns? Do you really believe that?They are just backing up their allies, and lacking any "superstitious" values like honesty they have no qualms about supporting them despite vast differences in their beliefs. They know transwomen will in turn support BLM, DEI, lax law enforcement and every other policy of the left. They probably view them as useful idiots to help drag down their enemy.Of course it is all hot air, after they seize power they will immediately shoot all the transwomen in the stomach and leave them to die screaming in a mass grave.
>>18614021>Newsom is a joke outside of CA and he is not hot in CA anymore.You're completely detached from reality
>>18614137>They probably view them as useful idiots to help drag down their enemy.Yeah it's basically this. They know that they may hurt each other, but straight white men would probably genocide them and that's worse. I'm not kidding that's how like 40% of this country figures out their politics. They realize that white men are probably the most dangerous demographic in the world and do whatever they can to oppose them. And that is a huge part of why any attempt by white men to portray themselves as victims of oppression, or victims of the Jews, or the great replacement, will ALWAYS FAIL. It's true this country is too Zionist, there are too many immigrants, there's been an effort by the government to make the country less white, and to help black people commit crime and murder. That's all true. But NO ONE will ever buy the narrative that white people have been victims, they are too scared of Hitler and George Washington and George Bush, they will never believe the Hitler race needs their sympathy or help
>>18614140Newsom has name recognition, a good haircut, and a handsome face, and California has a huge GDP thanks to all the software companies and farms and trucking and shit. I really don't think that's enough for him to beat MAGA, assuming Vance or Rubio can pull all of MAGA (I really think they can, when Trump endorses a candidate these days they win big even when Trump isn't on the ballot)A lot of low info voters could see Newsom as just another white man. Also the homelessness shit, the ultra radical CA leftism, CA gas prices being $2 higher than the rest of country, people being scared of Dems throwing the border wide open. Or imagine how Mexicans would vote if it was Newsom vs Rubio...Newsom these days has been acting like he isn't Christian. When a Catholic Church got shot up by a tranny, Newsom said screw your thoughts and prayers. It's like if he's trying to be a radical defiant leftist, why is he a straight white man? If he's trying to be a moderate centrist, why is he the guy in charge of California?
>>18614155Nothing is "ultra radical" about California's politics
>>18614151>what kind of deranged schizo wouldn't want to live in our perfect leftist utopia
>>18614157Gr8 b8 m8 I r8 8/8
>>18614165?????Substantiate your claims please (you can't, you're only capable of repeating slogans and dogwhistles)
Hey guys I'm here to comment on various candidates' electoral chances, which is usually a topic where you try to anticipate the behavior of the median voter. I will now just bluntly say something the median voter would disagree with to bait someone into the same boring left vs right argument again
>>18614167>Substantiate your claims>dogwhistlesI'm trying to explain to you the median voters psychology but you are incapable of any vehicle of expression that doesn't reek of high school debate club, fucking moron
>>18614171Do you think you're the arbiter of the median voters psychology or the zeitgeist of the median voter? Seems like a pretty broad generalization to be honest
>yeah voters will think Newsom is too radical because of Californian homelessness and their insistence on artificially inflating gas prices, also California is pretty famous for getting flooded with illegals despite prop 187, and we just saw the anti-illegal guy win all seven swing states and the pop vote>"SAAAR SUBSTANTIATE YOUR INSTATIATIONS SAR YOU MUST FACT CHECK THE GROK BULLET POINT LIST">"also zeitgeist is a word I use incorrectly"holy fucking yawn
>>18614175Your standards for what is radical are incredibly low
Like you had it right with psychology but then you had to awkwardly repeat yourself but with zeitgeist added in to try and sound more mature
>>18614179I fucking knew it. I knew I'd waste my time putting in the effort explaining the basics of median voter politics to you and then you'd contribute absolutely nothing in return. God damn it
It's not my standards, dumb faggot. The nation decided that flooding a state with illiterate ESL low IQ browns was too radical for them, that's why they gave him a like 30 state victory. The voters spoke. Kamala Harris was basically newsom but as an Indian woman, she was AG of California and has the exact same stances as him and got blown out. So you're assuming that people have flipped on Trump (no evidence) or that her stances would be more popular with a white man saying them (lmao)
>>18614185>So you're assuming that people have flipped on Trump I never said that>or that her stances would be more popular with a white man saying themShe lost because she only had less than a year to campaign because the incumbent decided he was going to drop out at the last secondI have a feeling you didn't expect to be called out for being retarded yet here we are. But at the very least we can try and salvage this dogshit thread and make it on-topic. High taxes doesn't always mean communism, a worst case scenario is the UK in the 60s, nobody ever accused them of being commies or radical leftists
>>18614190That's it? Your take from the 2024 election was that she needed more time? Dude what the fuck, she needed LESS time. Her popularity peaked in the summer and then the more time she dodged interviews and questions and refused to say what her positions were, and the weirded she acted, the worse and worse her numbers got.They had a debate and Trump went on stage and said the Haitians were eating dogs and cats and her response was to make a weird face >I never said thatTrust me I know, you didn't say anything substantive, I'm enumerating the only ways in which Newsom could win.>high taxes doesn't always mean communismYou're just mashing words together. A communist state wouldn't rely on taxes at all because no one would own anything that counted as a means of production. They'd own a house and a car and some clothes. That meant there was no real tax base, so all the government funding just comes from adjusting the price of goods until they have enough for the budget. Once again people's problem with Newsom is gas prices homelessness open borders and the fact that he's just a straight white man
The nigger leftists in this thread don't even know what leftism is, they don't know what communism is. And they think the worst example of a government is 1960s England.
>>18614204Does anyone actually give a shit if Newsom is white?
>>18614208If history is any indicator, Black Democrat vote will be extremely suppressed if the candidate is white and wasn't Obama's VP.It will probably be Newsom vs Vance, idk who will win
>>18613397>>18613571>>18613847>>18613921Sorry, but these are retarded reasons. Right wingers have infighting too. The Nazi party had 3 or 4 big camps competing for what the direction of the party should be (Strasserists, several lumpensocialist groups within the Sturmabteilung and the circle around Hitler), not to forget the other right wing conservatives and reactionaries who despised all of the nazis. The modern German "far right" party is also plagued with infighting, all of the three founding members have already left the party and founded their own splitter groups (Die Blauen, LKR and a non-party one) and Charles Manson's imprisonement and the death of Rockwell also led to the fracturing of the Nazi party into at least 4 groups too. The reason why right wing infighting looks less retarded than left wing infighting is simply because right wingers are smart enough to compromise and slowly subvert the institutions whenever they got into power. Whenever the Socialists had a go, they dismantled everything immediately which led to a power vacuum and allowed for other groups to challenge the ruling party.That's it.
>Thread about leftist infighting>Clueless retards talking about Gavin Newsom and Kamala HarrisTwo separate things retards. Inb4 "waaah no they aren't cause the commies all vote democrat anyway!" they're clearly separate and hate each other. It's the same reason why people with extremely right wing views vote Trump despite him being a neocon.
>>18614147The invective you describe is rooted in nihilist materialism, at one point leftists primarily targeted the white working class, now of course it is this circus of different ethnic groups and degenerates. It shifts opportunistically because they were never encumbered by morality. This is where I diverge from /pol/ a bit, far from a vast conspiracy, it is more self-evident to leftists that removing white people is to their advantage.Convince Jamarious or Gutierrez something is "racist" and they will mindlessly and unyieldingly oppose it eternally. They are not going to listen to a "racist" trying to explain their argument, they probably won't care even if they understand it. They are locked in. This is such a powerful tool the left deepens it and plunges to these ridiculous extremes.The white man however is less emotional and more likely to see through fallacies, even if he is a leftist himself he will ask too many questions, he is more difficult to ensnare, so naturally he becomes the enemy of cult leaders. When they realize the "dictatorship of the proletariat" is just a regular dictatorship composed of people who hate them they will join transwomen in the pits.
>>18613397Multiple reasons1: By definition they want to change things, but there are infinite different ideas about what things should be changed too, as opposed to conservatism which wants to keep the status quo and well, the status quo is already agreed upon, that's why it's the status quo.2: By nature of usually being an out of power opposition, they don't have the means to enforce discipline or idealogical unity. The conservatives on the other hand have the entire state and its monopoly on force, as well as the current social system and hierarchy, to ensure everyone follows the leaders (singular or plural) choices. You'll notice in states where a Left Wing movement actually gains those powers like in China, they no longer have those infighting problems because now they have the aforementioned enforcement mechanisms.
>>18613921Every reformist or revolutionary movement in history has had to deal with the problem of being inundated with weirdos who don't actually deep-down care about the movements principles, they just want a clubhouse where they can't be kicked out for being gross because the group is too desperate to not let them in. And the group often can't be too choosey about who it lets in because (being a movement at odds with the powers that be to one degree or another) it needs all the help it can get. But this often backfires as the weirdo's who don't actually give a shit about Marxism, or Fascism, or Liberalism, or Theocracy, or whatever it is the group was originally based on, will attract more of each other and can soon make up the majority of the group, at which point the group becomes about the weird shit and only uses the original purpose as a smokescreen for legitimacy. This is why Lenin made such a big deal about "Party Discipline", it was specifically to keep these kinds of people out. You see what happens when you don't in the West, where "Communism" is beset by people who are not really communists, they're the kind of outcasts from society who flood every movement/ideology that wants to change said society. In a communist society they would all be hardcore libertarians wearing Milton Friedman t-shirts. Because at the end of the day they'd still be social outcasts.
>>18614221There's also infighting for sure, but as I said, when facing a lefty menace they forget their differences. Tankies, anarchists and democratic liberals never get along even in the most desperate of situations.Also, right wingers tend to be more loyal to one guy/leader than to the ideology itself. If there's infighting between two potencial and popular rulers, shit can get quickly fixed with some unfortunate plane crash.
>>18613397I don't think they are. The NSDAP was pretty bad about infighting and purges. And the reason boomer conservatism not only still exists but even dominates is largely because the far right has been stuck infighting for decades. It does seem like the more ideologically rooted a movement is the more prone it is to infighting. Everyone ends up with their own idea of perfect ideological purity and anything else is fundamentally, unacceptably wrong. Religions are real bad about this. And I suppose leftist movements are often very interested in ideological theory. So they may be a bit more prone to infighting. But even nakedly pragmatic and opportunistic factions backing claimants in monarchies have historically had loads of infighting. So most of this is just human nature.
>>18614242If NSDAP was still around today, do you really think they would allow mass immigration and Pakistani rape gangs? Or 19th century classical liberals would allow the total decimation of property rights as under the Soviet Union? Or a Theocracy would break from scripture and become a bunch of trannies?Sure, the Freikorps were a bunch of weirdos, but so were the communists they were shooting. In time however the far-right in Germany grew into a cogent movement with clear ideological goals they were never going to break, even something as extreme as removing all jews from public office they did not back away from. They never betrayed das Deutsche Volk in that respect at least. Whereas the communists loved to take grain from starving peasants causing artificial famines worse than the natural famines under the Tsar before mechanized agriculture and the Haber process. Leftists constantly betray the proletariat in ways the fundamentally contradict their ideology.
>>18614248Again, in most of these cases the rightists inherit the monolithic institutions and cultures that subsume splinter groups. That's why they sually have checks of balances that prevent groups directly competing against each other, but spiritually and ideologically right wing infighting is not any less severe than its leftist counterpart, the Right Wing just understands human nature better to establish counter-measures.>Tankies, anarchists and democratic liberalsBecause these are fundamentally different ideologies. THe Sturmabteilung in Nazi Germany had the same positions as Hitler in 90% of cases, yet attempted a coup once and had mass desertions after it became clear that Hitler was not following the traditional party line.Arabs are notorious for infighting, so are feudal monarchies in general and they are right wing- arguably more right wing than the Fascists and reactionaries from the 20th century.The Japanese Navy and Army may not have directly fought other, nonetheless their rivalry ccosted Japan many strategic victories.There simply is no ontological difference that makes leftists inherently more uncooperative than right wingers.
>>18614266>but those are diferentThey aren't since on a left VS right war they would be on the same team.What did during the Spanish Civil War facists (modern far right) had to do with Carlists (absolutists turbochuds) or democratic people that wanted the Spanish king back or bumpkins that simply loved their chruch? Nothing, except a shared hatred towards the republic.
>>18614265>If NSDAP was still around today, do you really think they would allow mass immigration and Pakistani rape gangs?Yes. They would. Even putting aside the fact they were always just a tool of the German industrial elite and would do whatever they wanted just like every other Fascist movement in history has, They fucking loved having those they considered their racial inferiors as an exploitable underclass for the rich. And just like today you'd be angry about it while supporting the people doing it.
So the tldr is that leftism only appears more fractured in the present environment because it's composed of visibly disparate factions. And if you took a magnifying glass to the superficially unified right, you'd see the same fissures. It's sort of tautological; this group is fractured because it's fractured.
>>18614221The right doesn’t infight. It has legitimate subversives. The spirit of the right is the pre-modern anti-politics of localism.Many correctly fall in behind this, however many want the benefits of both worlds such as having a supreme leader but also having a democracy.It’s not infighting like lefties infight.Lefties coalesce around the dumbest shit and divide over even dumber things.
>>18614315Ironically you've just described only one faction of the right that clashes with the imperialist - or at least nationalist -faction on a daily basis.
>>18614266If we look at Weimar Germany or the Spanish civil war we see leftists refusing to cooperate and sometimes fighting even when faced with mutual extinction, whereas monarchists, falangists, tradcaths and the rest ultimately work together despite minor power struggles and disagreements.Ideological similarity among leftists does not necessarily mean "solidarity". This is what confuses people. It is exactly because their ideology is so vapid and base that power falls into cults of personality where the respective megalomaniacs have their own vision with themselves at the top. The only way to unify them is to already have one overwhelmingly powerful group.
>>18614339The "monarchists, falangists, tradcaths and the rest" despite their and your claims to the contrary, were all working for the same people and always were.
>>18614339As someone living in a communist country I wish this was the the case but they always unite and blatantly skirt the own law that they wrote whenever their rule or party member is threatened. They censor everything and always try to present a united front, even the ones who dissidents will try to save the Party's face. It's like cult.
>>18614339>>18614348The problem is that if your definition of right and left is just various groups, then they will be tautologically more or less fractured depending on how many groups they encompass. More groups = more fracture. There could be some philosophical reason for the degree of (dis)unity but it could easily slip back into identity politics and surveying of groups: "right wing = conserving the nation = really composed of one group, the nation; whereas left wing = splitting the nation = many groups who want to split for nation for various reasons" which is just the same tautology
1. All people want to be right and to accrue power and standing, and since leftist groups are usually marginal, there's nowhere for that struggle to happen but within the left. Which tends to ensure they stay marginal2. As opposed to more conservative movements, leftists are trying to promote a very long-range theory about what the future should look like, and that vision is very different from anything currently around. They think that if the first steps are taken with the wrong vision in mind or by the wrong people, it may become impossible to correct the path.
>>18614339Ive seen this chart several times, but it never reflects reality.Are we going to ignore MTG being thrown out of the party over the Epstein Files?Are we going to ignore Tucker Carlson and Alex Jones denouncing their support for Trump over the Iran War?The few, but major, Republicans that backed the Ukraine War?In 2022, Trump was also trying to push the vaccine, but quickly stopped when crowds boo'd him whenever he brought it up.
>>18614372before addressing your general point, those examples are horrible and you clearly just read ragebait headlines. MTG got thrown out because she wanted to run for a statewide seat and Trump told her she'd lose so she decided to call him a pedophile in revenge. That's not a "view" or a faction of the right, like the religious right or the trade restrictionist right, that's just a woman being a dumb bitchTucker and Alex both turned on Trump long before the Iran war, Tuckers texts leaked saying he hated Trump passionately in 2023. Tucker is also a serial liar who has directly stated on his show that legal immigration is increasing (it's been slashed massively) and that the administration is doing nothing about anti-white discrimination (the DoJ has sued several universities and companies for anti-white policies and the administration has ended all DEI hiring practices in the exec branch). This is again not a view or faction of the right it's just people being retarded
I feel like people are mistaking lefties attacking the same target as unifying.The Right actually can unify.Lefties dont really unify, they might stop fighting each other and go after a non-lefty, but this isnt indicative of high coordination per se, its not like troongang and muslims are directly invested in positive outcomes for eachother as much as they are both ravenously against normal people, so it gives the appearance of being unified.
There are three main issues for the right. Trade, war, and immigration. People on the right arguing on what stance to take on those three issues. That's the extent of the diversity of thought on the right. Just back and forth on those issues. It's not comparable to the "left" being literal disparate factions like blacks and gays and corporate America (which still overwhelmingly donates to the left ever since Clinton cemented the left as the free trade party) and immigrants
Biggest problem on the right is retardation. All the commentators are retarded. The biggest one by far, Tucker, blatantly lies to his audience, seemingly to help the left. Because he's retarded. The only smart people are anons or inside the administration. The right is divided by its stupidity
>>18614387I don't think all the republicans wanting the Epstein files to be released asap while Pam Bondi sat on her ass was just 'A woman'.>TuckerFine. But he was still one of the biggest early endorsers of Trump back in the 2016 era.Also, you seem to just brush off how so many GOP support the Ukraine war and Trumps initial praise for the vaccine.Can even you yourself give an opinion on the Ukraine War every single conservative will agree with?Another major thing: half of republicans think Erika Kirk is a snake and TPUSA was over with Charlie. Yet, obviously half of republicans are behind her. You can disqualify these things all you want for not being a formal faction within the party. But no, I won't dismiss these major divides as just 'one woman'.
>>18614400not really, they arent stupid as much as they have the most subversives and bad actors because the Right attracts intelligent capable people.Nazi Germany never had a USSR moment despite numerous opportunities for them.Monarchies never had a USA or USSR moment where they blundered into pointless wars they couldnt get out of by conquest or diplomacy.
>>18614393China disproves this, but you people's entire world view is reliant on believing China somehow simultaneously is and is not Communist.
>>18614423Monarchies never had a USA or USSR moment where they blundered into pointless wars they couldnt get out of by conquest or diplomacy.
>>18614309Nazis and neocons are two different things. Republicans, Tories, and contemporary "conservatives" in the West allow mass-immigration because the leaders of the parties themselves believe in multi-racialism and that a nog can just adopt the countries' culture and assimilate, and many of them are only fiscally "conservative" and so care more about cheap labor than anything else. Also the West of today is bound by laws that were enacted by liberals and leftists which make it illegal to discriminate based on race - it's a system leftoids created. Leftoids are also the biggest defenders of open borders, they're the ones who actually go out on the street and screech loudly in favor of it while waving signs around; not conservatives. The Nazis were ethno-nationalist populists and they wrote the Nuremberg Laws which made it illegal for a non-German to hold state office. They also made a huge effort to deport gypsies and kikes. You're really reaching far up into your HIV-infected asshole to say they would be cool with the various brown rapefugees that Europe allows today.
Reminder, for far leftards anything they don't like (including you) is facism just like everything is communism (including you) to far rightards. Their minds cannot make distintions so don't waste your energy.
>>18614434England was never going to leave Napoleon alone. The wars would only end when either state got toppled
>>18613397Tacking on to leftist infighting its pretty easy to get where the not true communism claims come from given that every single self declared Communist state was MLoid or an offshoot of that so if you call MLoids revisionist then so is basically every country that ever claimed to be communist.
>>18614400Kek you Jews are still seething about tucker getting redpilled and turned away from you.
>>18614909>getting redpilledthat's the thing though, Tucker's positions are ostensibly the same as the administration's.Think about it. he lies and says legal immigration is increasing when it's falling drastically, more than ever before in history since the immigration problem began. He also lies that the government is doing nothing about antiwhite discrimination when they're suing multiple companies and universities for antiwhite affirmative action and white-exclusive scholarships, and ending all DEI in govt hires.Both of those things imply he has the exact same position as the administration. He's just a retard and doesn't know what's going on. Tucker is mad that in 2023, when Trump's stock was lowest, he went all in on being anti-Trump and leaked texts saying he hated Trump. He thought Trump was finished, and that it was maybe time for him to lead the right because of how popular he was. He fucked up and bet on the wrong horse and doesn't know what's going on anymore.
>>18614423>the Right attracts intelligent capable people.yeah but they all end up working for the right within. The modern media environment has a bunch of "right wing" spokespeople who are all completely retarded and just get basic facts wrong.The only way people can get redpilled these days is by independent research. No one could do it by just tuning into Tucker because Tucker is literally lying about everything.
>>18614887neither of those things are true and you just don't have the intellectual curiosity or energy to make a serious investigation of either end of the spectrum.
>>18613397>why leftists prone infightingBig tent = everyone wants to be the ringmasterAlmost people are fundamentally opposed to uncertain change when they have something that "just werks" already. Things have to be terribly bad to override that fundamental aspect of human nature.
>>18614221Nazis are left-wing socialists so they had infighting, retard.
>>18614339This. A fundamental feature of the left is denial of reality, like denial of the fact they are not a real woman or black underachievement after 60 years of civil rights, affirmative action and DEI isn't due to the man putting them down.It is another contradiction. Leftists proclaim themselves masters of reason, logic, science and progress, but they are still flawed humans, and they are part of a self-justified group that needs to suppress anything upsetting their followers. In the end their claims become as hollow as someone saying "I am very smart", counter-productive in fact. Once your great leader decides what reason actually is, when actual reason is in the house it can be dismissed very easily.It explains why the left is so fond of critical race theory, poststructuralism and the general postmodernist "war on science" where a thesis on aerodynamics is just as heckin' valid as a thesis on decolonizing queer modernities.
>>18613397idealism as opposed to blind conformity of conservative ideologies
>>18613397They are mentally deranged people.
>>18613566Hilarious quote.
>>18616188You have no clue what you are talking about.
