How do you cope with the evil inherent within humanity? Like look at Julius Cesar, during the Gallic wars he had his men just raze villages and kill women and children. And further back in the Bronze age this was just the norm, wiping out cities and killing everyone inside was expected and celebrated. Hell they even do this in the bible. You can't convince me that everyone in these armies were sociopaths, they were probably mostly normal dudes. This evil is within normal people. How do you cope with that? How can you look at this and feel that humanity is anything good or worth saving?
No such thing as 'evil inherent within humanity.' If you're evil, you cannot consider yourself a human being. You're an animal, or a demon.
>>18622669Then how can thousands of people do these evil things? Was Cesar just lucky enough to get an entire army of psychos? Really?
>>18622676You know the cattle. They were there in the past, they are here right now, electing Tyrants and ready to die in a war for them. They lack balls to do what is right.
>>18622663Humans have been engaging in a process of self-domestication for thousands of years. Capital punishment and general social disfavor for negroidic violence and impulsiveness has been altering the gene pool every generation for hundreds of generations. So yes, we are genuinely better people than people 4000 years ago. They were just less empathetic, more violent, dumber, etc. Look how emo soldiers in the modern era get about harming civilians, when it was the norm not so long ago.
>>18622663Because the only people with your attitude are the ones who will end up going extinct. You may have a couple kids, they may have a couple kids, et cetera, but if that attitude remains eventually you will hit a turning point where a race of people who don't mind killing for land or honor or freedom or wealth will overrun you and chop your head off and toss your still-warm body in the bog.It's game theory: if you're both nonviolent, everything is OK. But if one of you is violent, the other loses. So both of you have to be violent.
>>18622774sounds gay
>>18622774Violent dumb unempathetic people have been having far more kids than the nonviolent enlightened intelligent naturally-civilized people, who have been working hard to make life easier for the violent, dumb, and unempathetic, for hundreds of years at this point. Spengler talks about this.It's just that we live in a kind of hole surrounded by rocks. With each generation, roughly the same number of violent and nonviolent people are born, but the nonviolent people make sure the dig the hole a little deeper, and throw a few rocks that land on top of the wall to make it higher. This ensures as few violent and dumb people can get themselves killed as possible, allowing them to reproduce in the safety of the hole. It will continue until the rock wall tumbles down and we overflow the hole.
>>18622774we are just as deceived now as we were in the times of the romans.
>>18622663CAESAR NIHIL PECCAVIT
>>18622663>How do you cope with the evil inherent within humanity?There is an equal if not greater propensity for good inside human nature too. It's 2 sides of the same coin, where 1 side is much more polished than the other. You have to take the good with the bad, to understand the differences, so you can make good choices & better reactions to what life throws at you, moving forward. Natural philosophy is all you need to figure this out. I recommend Platonism.
>>18622843It's not violence I'm against, I understand that self defense is important, it's the killing of innocents I don't like.
>>18622663The Bible is the iron age, pretty clearly the worst times in well known history.
>>18622884You worship the Geneva convention and draw your morals from it, and you can afford to do so thanks to thousands of years of ruthless conquerors who murdered and enslaved their enemies. Pacificists didn't survive.
>>18622898Not what I said at all.
>>18622774Midwit take. Nothing in human nature has changed for thousands of years. What has changed is our bitch made culture turning our soldiers into pussies whereas a roman soldier would delight in plunder and slaughter and sleep soundly the very same night. Once you strip away modernity nearly everyone has the capacity to behave like a pillaging nigger given the right circumstances.>They were just less empathetic, more violent, dumber, etc.Kek like we're so enlightened today.
>>18622774There is no such a thing as self domestication. What actually happened was that most schizophrenics don't hear bizarre voices from another galaxy. They hear their voices as other people talking to them. They hear other people lying to them, verbally abusing them, threatening them, giving them evil eye, or have sexual demands. The schizos now took over, and removed everything that triggered their paranoia. Buildings, toys, people. Now, we're safe...
>>18622663>How do you cope with the evil inherent within humanity?I'm under the vague impression/suspicion that this is this is functionally true: >>18622774That as time goes on, as population increases, as we're forced to get a long with more people, in more complicated societies, that we'll continue to sustain the conditions that breed a less violent human. There's also the fact that: >>18622846 >>18622853 >>18622903 critics of this position almost always change their tune the moment they have to live or be exposed to the few people left in the world who're, relatively, still undomesticated. People will puff out their chest, shit their pants, say how fucking tough they are, but then get nervous around some Cro-Magnon Papua Abo making small talk about how he's still pissed they criminalized cannibalism in '91.
>>18622663Israel is currently bombing children.
>>18622884>killing of innocentsThis doesn't mean anything concrete. What was a clear cut example of killing innocents that wasn't the result of two warring tribes that were fanatically determined to destroy each other, locked in seemingly eternal conflict whose bloodshed could only be ceased by the final eradication of one or the other? Because such conflict happened all the time. The Romans and Gauls fought each other for centuries, it felt ceaseless, at some point when half your family has died generation after generation fighting these hated foreigners, you're going to drive yourself insane unless you settle it once and for all and extinguish them. If we weren't on 4chan we'd probably say an inexcusable example of killing "innocents" would be the Holocaust, but then this gets into the whole long argument over what Jews are. Jews at the time of ww2 really did seem like a tribe of people who were super smart and super capable, had tons of kids and always kept reproducing within their own tribe, were amazingly adept at mercantilism and business and banking, at times the most powerful institutions in all society, who were militantly committed to social justice, and who absolutely refused to disentangle themselves from Europe completely or to completely blend in, they were determined to survive as an elite parasite. Not in any intentional way, there was no king Jew who decided his people would be parasites, it just sort of naturally happened. They would live in Eastern European villages, then move to Berlin or Paris or London to become bankers, then use their influence as bankers to foster an environment of social justice. Obviously there were exceptions, yes Jews served in disproportionately large numbers in the German army in WW1, yes Stephen Miller is a patriot, but this was the general trend. There seemed to be no other solution. Not that the Holocaust was planned, things wound up that there was simply nowhere for the Jews to go.
>>18622663It's not evil. Those men weren't evil, either. They didn't kill those people 4 da lulz, it was war. You would have done the same, because you would have been conditioned to see it as necessary. It's real easy for you to sit in a comfortable chair, in an air conditioned room, and judge them for it. You've never fought in brutal melee combat, have you? Nope. Probably never starved either, I'm guessing.>>18622958People today are the exact same chimps they were back then. The only difference is, as you say, we live in a more complex society that allows many comforts people back then didn't have, as well as a different ideology that fits within this framework. If you grew up in the same conditions as those soldiers, you'd almost certainly be doing the same things.
>>18622958>People will puff out their chest, shit their pants, say how fucking tough they are, but then get nervous around some Cro-Magnon Papua Abo making small talk about how he's still pissed they criminalized cannibalism in '91.What is this weird fucking headcanon libtards have and why is it so common?You always hear libtards saying shit like>you may type nigger on 4chan but you'd never have the balls to say it IRLWhat point are they trying to make? Do they think people say nigger online just to sound tough, so they need to be reminded they're not actually that tough? That's not why people say it. Or is the point that people shouldn't be racist online unless they're racist irl, because that would be hypocritical?I think really it's just that libtards love feral savages so they want a chance to indulge in the fantasy of a feral savage emasculating a chud, which basically never happens since chuds would never even get near a feral savage, that's the whole point, they want to segregate the feral savages away from them.
>>18622973He was using it to demonstrate that we are in fact more domesticated today. You got triggered and had a melty over nothing.
>>18622975The "it" he was using is a weird headcanon fantasy scenario that libtards persistently bring up despite nothing even remotely comparable ever happening IRL. That was my point, and you couldn't understand that because any post longer than two sentences is a "melty" to your puny smattering of gray cells
>>18622979Oh, I completely understand why you had your melty and pissed your pink panties. You thought he was saying you'd be too pussy to call a savage a subhuman IRL. But that's not what he was saying. He was saying that the people who are disagreeing with the statement "we are less savage now" are not so savage, when compared to the actual savages, like some cannibalistic papua tribesman with a penis gourd and sharpened teeth and 3 shrunken heads of his slain enemies in his hut. So there's no reason to be assmad, you can calm down.
I assume it's the case that urban American libtards have to engage with feral blacks in this manner quite often, maybe on a daily basis, on the bus, train, or sidewalk. The feral black starts staring at them or moving towards them and they have to duck their head and assume a neutral expression and move slowly away and hope they can escape unmolested. There's the case of that libtard who tried talking to a black schizo and got stabbed to death in front of his gf. My gf actually brought that one up to me after I had only seen webms of it on 4chan. Stuff like that is a regular enough occurrence that they'll just throw it out as a relatable scenario, it's insane what libtards will put up with
>>18622982Weird faggot freak
>>18622989I accept your concession. Run along now, scamp.
>>18622991I misunderstood nothing about his post, I was making a tangentially related post inspired by his. Not every conversation is point-counterpoint in an attempt to score points, faggot freak.
>>18622998So you admit you had a tantrum over nothing. Glad we're on the same page.
>>18622966>If you grew up in the same conditions as those soldiers, you'd almost certainly be doing the same things.I don't disagree, it's a process, evolution/domestication/breeding is a process communities undertake together. I have no doubts that if I was sent back in time to the 1200's I'd have to act like a cunt - a part of me would, however, like to think that it would simply be "more" difficult for me to compete with the past level of cunt due to my breeding. >>18622973>>18622979>>18622989Original Anon: >>18622958Your performative behavior proves my point. The only thing I'll add is I'm disappointed you quite literally did everything I accuse my strawman of.
>>18622965>Jews at the time of ww2 really did seem like a tribe of people who were super smart and super capable,They only built this image over the 20th century. They were almost universally portrayed as stupid, criminal, poor and disgusting people until then. >>18623003You can afford to be a cunt today. Being a cunt in the past would get you killed pretty quickly.
