Nuclear weapons have saved more lives than any other invention and I'm tired of retards insisting they're le bad just because they see "big thing go boom and kill people". Historically, there has not been a single greater deterrent for war than nuclear bombs.
>>18624944>Historically, there has not been a single greater deterrent for war than nuclear bombs.Several near miss nuclear wars, permanent environmental damage in trading and storage. Several near detonation in the US over transport.
>>18624956"near" and "near miss" are just other ways of saying "didn't happen". Also the effect on the environment isn't that large and some damage to the environment is worth saving countless lives
>>18624971>Also the effect on the environment isn't that largeRendering an entire island inhabited by people perfectly homeless and destroying unique ecosystems to test bombs is peak evil. More so since we don't even know if the US is still capable of running a proper military considering it's losing to Iran.>"near" and "near miss" are just other ways of saying "didn't happen".Then you handwaved way permanent and observed destruction of several islands by saying the nukes saved hypothetical lives? You don't even know how to make a proper argument.
>>18624978I mean, I'm not going to quibble here but there are a lot of islands and islands aren't a common recipient of ethical consideration. You can talk about the people harmed in these incidents but the islands themselves are not a scare resource.
>>18624984>islands aren't a common recipient of ethical consideration.Which is why the entire world is getting fucked becuase of such blasé disregard of the Earth's biome. >You can talk about the people harmed in these incidents but the islands themselves are not a scare resource.The people lost everything with no compensation in sight and we lost aton of biodiversity and unique ecosystems over basically nothing by the US, UK, and France. The permanent destruction is still totally observable and the radioactive pollution is still causing major problems in nearby Healthcare systems since yesterday radiation does spread.
>>18624997Same with the fallacious idea that some ecosystems are "okay" to sacrifice like swamps and arid areas/deserts. The massive destruction of swamp land in the US and Florida has pretty bad repercussions in flooding, wildlife loss and carbon storage.
>>18624944It's a safe and effective deterrent until it's not.
>>18624944War is the human condition and peace is an unnatural aberration. After a long enough time, humans will get sick of peace and choose nuclear war willingly
>>18624978>>18625078nobody fantasizes about nuclear war more than people who are against nukes. Do you seriously think every leader has a big red "NUKE" button that sends a barrage of nukes like in a cartoon that they can just press whenever they want? The earth has a higher chance of just blowing up than an actual nuclear war. You are retarded
>>18626057>big red "NUKE" buttonI think this
>>18624944You violated the NPT moisha. You're a criminal race.
Would donating nukes to african countries stop the endless letter soup militias slaughtering one another?
I would only agree with you, OP, if nuclear weapons had remained in the sole control of the United States. The proliferation of nuclear weapons has only created peace due to happenstance. Luck, in other words, is the only reason our civilization wasn't ended in a nuclear holocaust decades ago.
>>18625199Untrue. A nation can enjoy multiple generations of peace.
>>18625199What a moronic post. Even in times of war the majority of humans are not engaged in fighting. Most humans will never participate in a war in any direct way. Even then, most people who DO actually get directly involved are not combatants, but hapless bystanders who have violence inflicted upon them and are forced to flee, or die. Is that what you think the human condition is? Mortal terror and desperation? Because that is the most common human condition for those humans exposed to war.
>>18624944This meme is dead. War never stopped. And in several cases nukes have emboldened countries to be more belligerent than they would otherwise be. Political and economic interconnectivity discourages war, not superweapons.
>>18627408We outsourced wars to the Third World.
>>18624944fuk you llm faggot
>>18627408>War never stoppedHe obviously meant war between countries that actually matter, not wars against or between irrelevant shithole countries. There have been no wars between real countries since WW2. Only wars in which real countries pick fights with lesser nations, or in which lesser nations squabble among each other while the countries that actually matter watch from on high like gentlemen at a blood sport arena.
>>18624944A temporary damming of progress that's gonna end in massive destruction and billions dead. All because you were vain enough to believe humanity doesn't need wars
