As far as I'm concerned, the burden of proof is on atheists to disprove the King James Bible. God gave you a very extensive narrative of the first 4400 years of creation, along with a ton of moral and theological teachings. So now the ball is in your court. There are 66 books in the King James Bible, if it's not true it should be easy to knock it down or find even a single contradiction. But it's not there. So why do you cling to Atheism?
>>18635315Ghosts are not real
>>18635321And yet I'm indwelled by the Holy Ghost. 0 for 1. Next?
>>18635315If God real why bad thing happen?
>>18635346This is a nonsensical question, the Bible clearly records bad things happening, so bad things don't contradict the existence of the God of the Bible. 0 for 2. Next?
>>18635324>I'm indwelled by the Holy Ghost
If atheism isn't real why does it have to rely on the incredible stupidity of atheists to function? The first false dogma you need to accept as an atheist is that "God isn't real" isn't a statement, and all of the other nonsense flows from there. You see, when they state one of their beliefs, they're not actually stating anything, so you can't criticize them. Why use these underhanded tactics if their position is so unassailable?
>>18635352But why does God allow bad things to happen to the innocent? I don't even mean babies, I mean kind hearted teens and adults who fully embraced God and their faith yet their lives are never rewarded, they die in poverty, they starve, they die young. How is that explained? Why would God allow his followers to suffer?Meanwhile some of the most horrible sinners on the planet like Epstein and bill gates and Zuckerberg live extremely sinful lives full of rape, prostitutes, drugs, murder and more. Yet God never stops them?
>>18635360This is like a blind man asking for proof of colour; your inability to have the same experience does not qualify as evidence.
>>18635360>citation needed1 Corinthians 3:16> Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?0 for 3. Next?>>18635362What?
>>18635367>being the meme
>>18635315Other religions have extensive narratives too. Why is your true and theirs is not?
>>18635364>the innocentThey don't exist.>As it is written there is none righteous, no not oneRomans 3:10 King James. That said, the faithful are promised food and raiment in this life, nothing more.>I don't like thatWho cares?>Why do wicked people get away with things?Because they aren't God's children so he doesn't necessarily chastise them in the same manner he does those he loves.>Whom the LORD loveth he chasteneth and scourgeth every son whom he receivethWe shouldn't be surprised to see believers being punished in this life for their sins while Jews and other undesirables get away with murder. They're going to be punished in the fires of Hell. 0 for 4.
>>18635369False equivalence. 0/5>>18635372Because mine is backed by the King James and theirs isn't. 0/6
>>18635378>I worship thee King Ja-AAAAAAAAAAARGH NOOOOOOOOO GOD I'M SORRY THAT WAS JUST FOR MEM-EAAAAAAAAAAAAAARGH
>>18635378Oh okay, you're just trolling
>>18635364Punishment and reward always come, though our fallen earth distorts it. Tbh I won't address this on a theological level because I don't think you're making a theological argument; this is just an appeal to emotion, which can be dismissed. What I mean is if the amount of evil in this world was very small (like getting cuts and bruises) you wouldn't be asking this question, even though that should (in your view) contradict God's nature too. So effectively you're asking a question there is no real answer to "Why is God this amount of mean, instead of this other amount of mean?" It's stupid.
>>18635382Yes, I worship Jesus. Might I suggest that you don't see him in the King James Bible because you don't know him, and he doesn't know you?
>>18635392> he doesn't know youNot omniscient?
>>18635426Your biblical ignorance is noted.
>>18635429So he's lying?
>>18635426The immense labours of atheists to kick anyone of modest intelligence out of their movement has paid off, I see.
>>18635436Why would atheists know bible verses by heart if they think the book is all nonsense?
>>18635386No they're not and there's more than one of us here.
>>18635440Good question. You know who also knows the Bible by heart? Satan
>>18635346one reason is because of the Lord's longsuffering. He allows bad people to do bad things so that they may have a chance at redemption too.
>>18635346A stumbling block for the wicked and a refining furnace for the rigtheous.
>>18635369false equivalency. tons of stuff in the bible has bene proven to be true. Just because you haven't been able to make the psychological step to affirm the existence of God doesn't negate all the factual claims in the bible. In fact, the existence of Pontius Pilate himself was considered fiction by people like you for almost 2000 years, until archeological evidence was discovered that proved the existence of Pontius Pilate. Meanwhile spider-man is literally just a comic book.
>>18635466Spider-Man lives in New York.New York is a real place.Therefore Spider-Man is real.
>>18635315>even a single contradictionit says rabbits chew cud and they don't
>>18635533It says mustard seeds are the smallest seed, they aren't.
>>18635533Verse?
>>18635466May we see this archaeological evidence?
>>18635538Leviticus 11:6 and Deuteronomy 14:7. actually says rock badgers do too which is also untrue
>>18635472still doesn't workeveryone already knew New York was real. Nobody knew Pntius Pilate was real, in fact, most people denied it. Then it turned out the bible had been right all along. And in fact, it was almost like people had gone through history and seemingly deleted all record of Pontius just to try to discredit the Bible. The Romans were studious record keepers, yet all records pertaining to Pontius were missing. But the truth eventually surfaced.
>>18635545yea, there's this thing called google
>>18635466>the existence of Pontius Pilate himself was considered fiction by people like you for almost 2000 yearsNot even true.
>>18635553And with this one sentence, you've outed yourself as a larper. Protip for next thread: actual evangelical Christians would be falling over themselves to show proof of archaeology backing up the Bible.
>>18635548It was silly of anti-theists to deny that there is historical value in the gospels. Still just because the gospels aren't complete fiction, that does not mean all the events described actually occurred. People also thought Troy might be fictional and Homer made it up, but then it turned out it was a real city. Does that mean the Odyssey literally happened as described? Including man-eating Cyclops, Circe the enchantress and sirens?
>>18635545https://wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_biblical_figures_identified_in_extra-biblical_sources
>>18635563Jesus himself has been proven to be real though. At hte very least, he is seen as a very influential figure, if not the single most influential figure in all of human history. We literally dictate our time by his birth. Time existed before his birth, and then after it. It was so different that we had to separate the two. Like, people talk about "living in a "post-yadda yadda yadda society". All fo society itself is grouped into pre-christ, and post-christ. You don't reach that level of influence without there being something going on. Literally every single apostle that followed that man died a tremendously horrible, excruciating death. And they all willingly went through with it. Even knowing what was coming, they refused to renounce their faith. They all died horrible deaths.Do think all those guys would be willing to be flayed or boiled alive over some fanfic they all got super committed to. And it's not like they got indoctrinated through childhood either. They literally all just randomly met this dude, saw something special in him, and completely left their old lives behind to follow him. Then, after witnessing countless miracles being performed by him, they eventually even saw him be resurrected from death. Seeing that had such a pronounced effect on them that they all willingly suffered greatly to further hte message of what they had seen.To them, it was real. And those are the guys that were actually there when it happened.
>>18635533>>18635547>To get nutrients out of hard to digest fiber, rabbits ferment fiber in the cecum (part of the gastrointestinal tract) and then expel the contents as cecotropes, which are reingested (cecotrophy or refection). (Wikipedia)Try again?
>>18635315Darwin disproved christianity two hundred years ago
>>18635584MITTENS. 0/8.
>>18635545>Book of Isaiah propehecies that the Messiah will come and describes various details about his life such as that he will be unjustly killed for the transgressions of the people and buried in a rich man's tomb>Jesus, who historians accept genuinely existed and was indeed crucified as described, has a life that is 1:1 with said prophecy in the book of Isaiah>archaeological seal found belonging to 'Isaiah the Prophet' dated to time of King Hezekiah, exactly when the biblical Isaiah is said to have lived, is discoveredhow is this not a silver bullet in terms of proof and how has it not converted everyone who finds out about it?
>>18635466Where is the archeological evidence that people once doubted the existence of Pontius Pilate? I tried looking and found several pages suggesting that it's a commonly repeated myth among some Christians that historians once widely denied the existence of Pilate. Meanwhile the only specific person I could find being accused of denying Pilate's existence is the 19th century philosopher Bruno Bauer, but no one I came across who mentioned him gave a specific quote where he says it, so it seems possible to me that it's an exaggerated inference from him arguing for Jesus mythicism, which is a narrower claim.
Ok bro, time to get in…
>>18635592>pic that has been btfo'd multiple times sorry but numbers you pulled out of your ass and you don't even understand (mostly because your brain is mush due to daddy wailing on you) isn't an arguement
>>18635595Why are you acting like archaeological evidence is somehow more convincing than God's word itself? If they don't believe that then they aren't going to believe historians. They wouldn't believe even if one of their family members came back from the dead and warned them about Hell.
>>18635608Case in point, >>18635606 doesn't even believe in math because it contradicts what he wants to believe; To wit, that he's a monkey.
>>18635596you are asking me for hte impossible. I would have to get ina time machine, go back to pre-1961, and talk to some faggot college liberal queer about religion, like we are now, in order to get that data. Go ask your fucking parents, nigger.
>>18635573>He is mentioned by his contemporary Philo of Alexandria in his Embassy to Gaius, by Josephus in The Jewish War and the Antiquities and by Tacitus in his Annals.Way to shoot yourself in the foot.
>>18635612You're the one who made the claim.
>>18635608truedesu, i don't give a fuck about science, or math, or history, or anything anymore. The word of God is all that is true. And anyone that says otherwise is a lost cause at this point. I legit don't think there's anymore people that are going to be converting. It's a hopeless cause. Read the bible or leave me alone. (not you, these people)>>18635617people have been talking about ti for years and years. Because it was true. Where do you think it comes from? It coems from talking to faggots liek you. Eat a dick satan nigger. kill yourself and go rape and murder some more kids you worthless fucking nigger.
>>18635617CHRIST IS KING, NIGGER! CHRIST IS KING, NIGGER! ROT IN HELL DEMON FUCK NIGGER!
>>18635617don't talk to me any more nigger. go kill yourself. do it for satan, nigger
>>18635621>I legit don't think there's anymore people that are going to be converting. It's a hopeless causeIf this was the case, wouldn't the day of judgement have already happened?
>>18635633it is happening. you are living in the end times right now, this is your last and only notice
>>18635633you are in hell right now retard. you are a demon, and you are in hell.
>>18635582Chewing shit is not chewing cud and rock badgers don't even do that.
>>18635608>Why are you acting like archaeological evidence is somehow more convincing than God's word itself?Anon asked for archaeological evidence so I gave him some
>>18635630>>18635624>>18635621Crash out. I'm a Christian by the way.
>>18635611>n-no usorry but everytime you posted that pic you demostrated to be incapable of actually defending it and after a bit you just resort to your usual empty threats since your brain didn't have the chance to develop properly
>>18635647Second best laugh I've had all day. Thanks! How are those machines coming along?
>>18635582this isn't chewing cud. it's a reasonable mistake for a human to make but a very odd one for the all knowing creator of everything to forget about what his own creations can and can't do
>>18635642I'm not and you seem like you are experiencing psychosis based on your posts. Say the Jesus prayer (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me a sinner) until it goes away. Ask the Lord to remove a spirit of confusion from you and to be given humility and self-control, if it is his will.
>>18635657im experiencing all kinds of psychosis. I've had people psychologically torturing me for 3 straight fucking nigger years. IM OUT OF MY FUCKING MIND AT THIS POINT!
>>18635315Didn’t read your post, but that’s a great meme. The meme accidentally depicts the strongest possible contrast between local verdict—“God doesn’t exist”—and ontological dependence—the speaker cannot stand outside the reality they are judging.John 15:6 (KJV):> “If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.”
>>18635657>>18635695BUT I DO APPRECIATE YOU TRYING TO HELP, AND I DIDN'T MEAN FOR THAT TO SOUND LIKE AN ATTACK AT YOU. IT WAS DIRECTED AT HTE WORLD. Sorry for caps lock being on.
>>18635695>>18635697God bless you and keep you
Do you believe in transubstantiation OP, yes or no?Note: answering incorrectly may have drastic consequences for your immortal soul.
>>18635816No.
That's great for English speakers, but what Bible should I be teaching to my neighbors that only speak Spanish or Chinese? The KJV won't help them get into Heaven.
>>18635889Don't know, do your research. Or use text-to-speech translation.
These christians are so slow man... Atleast learn some competent arguments for why you believe in the existence of God (Kalam, tag, fine-tuning, modal ontological, etc.) if you're gonna do this patentry here.
>>18635947You're the one who needs to prove the God of the Bible doesn't exist. You can't, because he does.
>>18635949You're making the positive claim. In the past, God was the necessary condition for explaining reality. Whether you worshipped the sun and the moon, beautiful women (aphrodite, ISIS, Asherah), or old men in the sky (Yehwah), everyone needed some God to prostrate to, to make sense of their existence and mortality.After the enlightenment era, suddenly there were other naturalistic means of explaining things. Why the rain comes, what makes us tickle, how the universe began?So there is no need to take the existence of God for granted.
>>18635947IM ONLY HERE TO CALL DEMONS NIGGERS
>>18635969explain how the universe made itself come into existence, why it did this and why it continues to exist, and in the same consistent state and why anything exists at all
>>18635969>You're making the positive claim.>So there is no need to take the existence of God for granted.Sorry, did you even read my OP? Apparently not, because I already addressed this.
>>18635975>did you even read my OP? Your claim was essentially that the english translation of the bible says God exists, and the may have gotten some historical facts right. like what crops the jews grew in the winter, or when the jewish king's third daughter had her period, etc>first 4400 years of creationThis specifically is young earth creationism. No amount of epistomological jargan can handwave that earth being older than 6k years
>>18635975Nowhere in this thread did you actually address that. You asserted that atheists bear the burden of disproving your God, but you never gave a reason why the burden should be assigned that way. Repeating the assertion is not an argument.
>>18635376>when bad things happen to you it means god loves you o algo
>>18636046>>18636005>>18636001Sorry, I don't see an argument that God doesn't exist. Try again?
>>18636869Where are you right now, please use cartesian locale
>>18636898Argument?
>>18636900Are you in an arm of the Milky Way?
>>18635315>God gave you a very extensive narrative of the first 4400 years of creation,And that narrative is wrong since the world is several billion years old. That disproves christianity.
>>18635889>Brown troglodytes can get into heaven
>>18636904Try to stay on topic.
>>18636912Google, astronauts overview effect
>>18636909>And that narrative is wrong since the world is several billion years old. That disproves christianity.It should would, but the problem is that the world isn't several billion years old. So, your argument, as it were, is valid but not sound. Try again?
>>18636920Okay, until you can provide an argument I'm hiding your posts.
>>18636926Oh, you're dishonest, what a surprise. I think the argument is made
>>18636921>the world isn't several billion years oldWell, modern science shows that it is. Too bad.
>>18635315>God gave you a very extensive narrative of the first 4400 years of creationBut it's wrong.
>>18636939Enjoy hell
>>18636945Enjoy [ ]
>>18635973>explain how god made itself come into existence, why god did this and why god continues to exist, and in the same consistent state and why god exists at all
>>18637023>God owes me an explanation for himselfNo.
>>18635315The King James Bible is a product of multiple rounds of revision from the original writings with vernacular differences across languages causing lots of differentiation of interpretation. The biblical text cannot be taken at face value as a true account of the divine due to the fallible nature of the human hands that wrote it. None of this disproves the existence of higher powers or other layers of reality, but it does rule out Christianity as an empirical source on the activities of the divine. It is entirely faith based and the instrumental purpose of community building in Protestant Christianity is corrupted by the demonic secular power modern of greed/wealth morality kleptocracy to an extent comparable to the time the Catholic Church sold get out of hell free cards (indulgences) to the wealthy. Prosperity gospel and the modern us evangelical movement are demonic forces.
>>18637090neither does the universe
>>18637130>the universeThe universe points to God. Try again?
>>18637130I don't see the universe pointing to anything besides itself.
>>18637138>>18637158
>>18637158Sure. You chose to shut your eyes to the truth because you love sin and HATE the light. That doesn't change anything from where I'm sitting.
