Why does God want to be praised? Why would he even care about that? That seems really human
I don't get it.Who told you God wants this and/or that? And why did you believe that person? Do you think that person is an authority on God?
>>18640638>Who told you God wants this and/or that?>the kind of worshipers the father seeks>seeks
He's perfect and he deserves it. God is completely innocent. God's awesomeness is beyond human comprehension.
>>18640649>God is completely innocentNo he isn't. He does lots of things that would be sins if anyone but god did them. He is also the most proud and self serving entity in all existence.
>>18640652God is completely innocent. He's never done something wrong. Humility is his belt there's not an ounce of pride in his heart.
>>18640649If a God demands worship and desires to micromanage human life, he is absolutely not the prime mover
>>18640661He deserves worship and the worshipper benefits more from worshipping God than God does from his worshipper. God telling you to worship him is doing you a favor because all good things will will flow to you if you worship him.And he created humans for a purpose, he gets to decide what humans must and must not do.If you create 10 dogs to herd sheep and 7 of them want to climb trees instead then they would be useless and of no need to you and you will quickly discard them and keep only the ones who obey you.You did not make yourself and you do not sustain your own life. You're owed completely to the one who made you and puts effort into keeping you alive and you must do all that he says or he has no reason to continue giving you life.
>>18640630Because God is worthy of praise, and it is proper to praise that which is praiseworthy, and improper to do otherwise.
>>18640638>ask for source of god wanting worship>doesn't reply when I give it to himWhat a faggot. That's not even the only source in the bible
>>18640683The idea of the omnipotent creator of the universe wanting to be praised by his own creations is silly. That would be like me wanting my characters in the sims to praise me
>>18640689Should you not praise that which is good?
>>18640694YHWH isn't good.
>>18640701So you don't disagree that the good is worthy of praise?
>>18640704Posisbly. I don't think a god who was good would demand people worship him and punish them if they do not, or worship something else, so that immediately discounts Yahweh and Jesus who both claim a monopoly on worship. And allah, but I kind of count him with Yahweh
>>18640712If it is good to praise that which is praiseworthy and bad to praise that which us worthy of blame, and you desrire the good of others, would it not be good to advise praising the praiseworthy?
>>18640717>would it not be good to advise praising the praiseworthy?So lets stop beating around the bush and you tell me what god you propose we all worship
>>18640630>WhyWho cares?>>18640644>HIV
It is the morally right thing to worship God as the originator of our existence, and it is morally bad to not worship him. He doesn't "need" worship. He wants the Good, and it is good for the Creation to humble itself before its Creator, acknowleding the objective hierarchy.
God will receive my worship once I see justice for all the evils of history. Before then I owe him nothing
>>18640630For some reason, thrir god is some retard whom doesnt think things thru, he just wants to be forever praised
>>18640655>He's never done something wrong.Why did he apologize to humanity with rainbows and say he would never do that again if he didn't think his global genocide was wrong?
>>18640914NTA he doesn't apologize he just says he wouldn't do it again. He actually still thinks humans are innately evil so there is no sense he thought he made a mistake or anything.Now he does say before the flood that he regretted making humans so perhaps he did something wrong there, though the common response to that is "regret" doesn't actually mean "regret".
>>18640914>>18640928Oh also he says in Ezekiel 20:25 that he gave Israel bad laws.
>>18640630Do you hate and disrespect your dad?
>>18640630Being praised is part of power projection when your power is limited. Draw your own conclusions.
>>18640681>He deserves worshipIn my experience, the only people obsessed with who deserves what are bickering siblings and grownups with that mindset.
>>18640630*lightning bolts you*
>>18640681>He deserves worshipwhy>worshipper benefits more from worshipping God than God does from his worshipper. God telling you to worship him is doing you a favor because all good things will will flow to you if you worship him.only because of rules he set up because he wanted to. It's kinda hard to beat "do this thing and you will achieve eternal salvation but if you don't you'll be tortured forever"
>>18640681>worshipAnd why is worship something he's into? Because apparently Heaven is 24/7 worship.
>>18640914TA because he felt sorry for us. His heart is so pure that even when he rightfully punishes us afterwards he still feels compassion for us.
>>18641022God's experience is a bazillion years enconpasiong every single thing. Your few decades of experience in a room on front of a screen is nothing. You can't rely on your own understanding.
>>18641031>whyBecause he is supremely awesome and created every good, pleasant and pleasurable thing. He takes cares of trillions and trillions of beings on earth and 1000x that amount in heaven.>only because of rules he set up because he wanted toAnd his rules are just and fair. He is rigtheous and holy and all who worship the source of all good ess and rigtheousness deserves to enjoy of all good things.If doing good is good then loving goodness is better and if loving goodness is very good then worshipping the source of all goodness is extremely good.
>>18641034What's wrong with it? Can you make an argument against worship that does not come from pride?
>>18641044Gaslighting aside, if "God" was described as "screaming incessantly to have his diapers changed and his tummy rubbed" I think my few decades are quite sufficient to appraise the godlikeness of such an entity and the same goes for one who is described as being very concerned with worship and praise
>>18641069Yet when you see him you're gonna be greatly afraid of what you have rejcted. And you will beg to be with him with all your might when you see the immense happiness and pleasant bliss that those who come with him have. And when you see the mind blowing reward that he is giving out to those who loved him your heart will fail you at what you have missed out on. And you will wish to kill yourself but death has been defeated. You will be utterly inconsolable. And then you will be thrown into hell.
>>18640630Because religion is made up garbage for a high caste to stay in power over chandala. God gave us the animist faculty so we can find our own meaning within nature, he doesn't give a shit that you waste your entire God given life worshipping him, trying to become one with him, 'trying to find him', you're gonna die and he's gonna laugh at you for wasting the time he gave you.
>>18641158Will the creator of beauty not be the most beautiful? Will the creator of love not be the most loving? Will the creator of wisdom not be the wisest? Will the creator of fragrances not be the most fragrant being of all?You worship sex, a small pleasure he invented for mortals on earth that is a huge thing to you. And you think the creator of pleasure and joy and happiness and goodness and beauty will not the the most marvelous and impressive being you will ever see? You think that when you see him, the creator of everything you adore and chase after in life, you're not gonna wish you had done anything for him? And that simply being in his presence won't be to you the greatest of all rewards?Like come on now man be serious. You literally worship the work of his hands.It's gonna hurt like hell when such a being rejects you in front of everyone. It's gonna shatter you and crush you in a billion pieces. You will never recover.
>>18640630Because God is made up and has the attributes the freaks who made him up decided on.
>>18641079What you're describing is Satan and you will burn in Hell for allowing yourself to be seduced by his lies. The way you're describing God is heresy. God is a perfect being. You're trying to pass him off as vain and obsessed with people sucking up to him.
>>18641224You just don't like worshipping God. You want God to suck up to you.
>>18641227Absolutely not. I worship and am in awe of God. I myself am nothing. But I refuse to worship Satan and I refuse to hear Satans lies about the nature of God without speaking up.
>>18641246What have I said about God that cannot be found in the bible?
>>18641250Why do you assume that the Bible protects you against satanic lies? The doctrine of Biblical infallibility is the biggest satanic lie, meant to make you swallow and repeat blatant heresies and lies about the nature of God.
>why God [thing I don’t like about God]>God would never do that, because I don’t want Him to>therefore it’s ok for me to take it up the ass
>>18641260If you do not worship the God Moses and David wrote about you're the one worshipping the devil.
>>18641264>I believe in God is an immaculate perfect all powerful being>Satan tells me God is about as flawed as a random teenager>I believe it because I get pats on the back from other flawed human believers>something about gay sex
>>18641273Who believes God is flawed like a teenager?
>>18640630Specifically, he wants you to worship his ass.
>>18641304You will worship a monster's balls in hell.
>>18641276Anyone buying into that what God cares most about is that you acknowledge Him, praise Him, worship Him, to the point that doing that is more important than being good. That idea is both evil and heretical.
>>18641267By their fruits shall you know them. If a statement, verse, purported truth, etc, is evil and heretical, it is of little consequence who they're attributed to and where. Worse than idolatry is idolatry of Satan.
>>18641387Evil by your standards not by God's standards.
>>18641381Enjoy Hell
