>The Seven Days Battles had cost the Army of Northern Virginia 20,000 men killed, wounded, or missing, and the Army of the Potomac 15,000. The higher Confederate losses were blamed by ordinance chief E.P. Alexander on the fact that a significant amount of the army was still carrying smoothbore muskets while the Union soldiers had mostly rifles. After the fighting was over, Robert E. Lee reorganized the army into a properly structured fighting machine--so far it had no organization above the division level as a Confederate law forbade the creation of army corps, apparently as a confused states rights measure, and Lee would eventually lobby to get it repealed by the end of the year. The result was 11 separate divisions that proved too hard to control in battle.
>In the meantime, Lee restructured his army into two corps, although he avoided using that term, preferring the more vague "wings", headed by James Longstreet and "Stonewall" Jackson. He sought to remove generals he considered to have underperformed in the battle, in particular Benjamin Huger, William Whiting, John Magruder, and Theophilus Holmes, all given less demanding assignments elsewhere. The army had suffered dearly in battlefield losses between June 26 and July 1, although casualties in the upper ranks were not too bad. A total of 14 colonels had been killed, but only one brigadier (Richard Griffith) and no division commanders were physically harmed. Eight brigadiers were wounded, although Arnold Elzey was the only one permanently disabled from service by his injuries.>Jackson's Valley Army had taken the smallest share of the army's casualties, just 7% of the total, as they had only really been engaged at Gaines Mill. A.P. Hill and Longstreet had taken the most losses, and Charles Field's brigade had lost the most men of any brigade in the army.
>>18644078This is a popular misconception that confederate states had rights. It was actually a much stronger central authority than the Union.
>>18644088nonetheless, Jefferson Davis refused to censor newspapers even when they were openly attacking him and printing military secrets, and he also refused to order planters to grow food for the army instead of cash crops as he believed the government shouldn't tell them what to do
>>18644088Lincoln suspended habeas corpus and ruled Baltimore as a dictator, the Georgians wouldn't let Davis do the same and that's literally why they lost. They preferred to be honorable losers than hypocritical winners.>If we take away the states' rights, why, we'd be no better than they are! Gentlemen, I say we choose to get assfucked and conquered by the Union instead. Then we'll really have rights.
>>18644152one time in early 1862, Joe Johnston gave the Confederate cabinet an explanation of his strategic plans and was infuriated when two days later he found a complete write-up of it in a Richmond newspaper
>>18644080A.P. Hill had entered the battles with a brand-new division of 14,000 green soldiers, the newest in the army, and he lost close to 40% of them at Beaver Dam Creek, Gaines Mill, and Glendale, Longstreet's division was also badly mangled and both divisions were held in reserve at Malvern Hill.
>>18644088>>18644152>>18644162>>18644169Why is loser's mentality so strong with American chuds?>"we have to principled">"we gotta be honorable">"sometimes it is better do nothing"Then they have the audacity to act surprised when they lose against to the Union army as well as have their states occupied by the Union army unless they worship niggers.
>>18644088You are a retard... nowhere in OPs post can you draw that conclusion. Never once is rights mentioned. Are you talking about forming corps? They were completely new to history and came from napoleon. Also you have few rights in an army. Fucking dumbass.
>>18644184You are a buffoon. You treat history as Marxist revision. You treat history like its 2026 politics. Fuck off faggot. You deserve to be hanged irl when your revolution comes.
>>18644078Davis also pressed for the idea of organizing "state" brigades whereby each infantry brigade was only comprised of regiments from the same state, apparently done as a favor to his home state of Mississippi. This resulted in a few oddities such as Pryor's Florida Brigade having only three regiments and the Texas Brigade including the 3rd Arkansas as that was the only Arkansas regiment to serve in the Army of Northern Virginia.
>>18644194History IS 2026 politics, lil chud.
>>18644184>>1864420941% bomb for Suicide Squad game
>>18644209No it's not. I realize you have been brainwashed by schools to think this, but it's simply not.
The Confederate government instituted conscription in spring 1862 and the enlistment terms of all men extended to last for the duration of the conflict, however men who owned 20 slaves were exempted from the draft.
>>18644222PGT Beauregard wanted recruit person of colors, Patrick attempting conscription of black.
>>18644247Beauregard was a Cajun and they had different views on race than Anglo Southerners and Cleburne was an Irish immigrant so he was also not very steeped in Southern society and its racial codes.
>>18644078>so far it had no organization above the division level as a Confederate law forbade the creation of army corps, apparently as a confused states rights measureJeffersonian as fvck, they would've won if they would've stuck with this libertypilled measure.
>>18644078I fucking hate constitutionalists so much it's unreal
>>18644365That is an unamerican view and I hate you
>>18644152>>18644162>>18644184Realpolotik is a foreign concept to confederates
The Confederate army had the rank of full general and after corps were formally legalized, the rank of lieutenant general was also created for corps commanders. This created a problem in that once someone reached the rank of lieutenant general or full general, he was entitled to corps or army command and so there were a lot of shitty generals who got commands they shouldn't have. The Union army didn't have this issue because until Grant was made lieutenant general, the highest rank was major general, and since this rank was ostensibly for division commanders, it meant that a shitty major general could be downgraded to division command and not required to get an army or corps.
>>18644423Foreign to Davis, the military was hamstrung by him with some blame shared with Hood and Bragg.Joseph Johnston would have been miles better than Davis at being president.
>>18644078>>18644080>>18644847What if C.S.A use Fabian strategy, in the context of modern warfare, is essentially analogous to guerrilla warfare tactics, as exemplified by Mao Zedong's campaigns during the Chinese Civil War, Vo Nguyen Giap's strategies in the French Indochina War, or Tito's partisan operations. This approach involves a tactical retreat in the face of an advancing enemy, followed by harassment and ambushes when the enemy establishes a position, and finally, an offensive when the enemy withdraws.Effective implementation of such a strategy significantly benefits from a pre-existing guerrilla infrastructure established within enemy territory, rather than solely within one's own. This is a challenging endeavor, though not insurmountable, particularly if immediate mobilization is required post-secession.Regions such as Kentucky, Southern Indiana, and Ohio, characterized by their hilly terrain and historical presence of Dixie/Southern sympathizers, would have presented ideal locations for developing such an infrastructure. This would have enabled the disruption of Northern supply lines, compelling the Union to allocate substantial troop resources to counter guerrilla activities in these areas, and potentially address acts of terrorism and sabotage further north within Union-sympathetic territories. The guerrilla encirclement proved successful in the Red River region.
>>18644922Then the union would burn their cities to the ground and the war would end even faster.
>>18644078>Dixietards pushed the Grant the Butcher meme when Lee routinely sustained 30% casualties in most of his battles
>>18644930How would bluebellies do in the Deep South, surrounded by hostile cavalry and infantry, since they were not engaging in a costly pitched battle?
>>18644988Fine, given that they're seizing every single source of food and ammunition, all of the wealth, the Confederate government, and the Confederate soldiers morale would fucking collapse? Guerilla warfare isn't some magic bullet you retard. It requires an opponent that can't just seize everything of value to you, an army that is fully willing to let their immediate families die and properly be taken, or which can vanish into the population and NOT simple be rounded up, and an opponent that won't just kill anyone suspected of resisting.The South had none of these things.Nor were Fabian tactics even guerrilla warfare you fucking retard.
>>18645007Oh, a nothing post
>>18644078At least half the ANV had smoothbore muskets in the Seven Days Battles against maybe 20% of the AOP. The Texas Brigade at Gaines Mill had three of its four regiments armed with Enfield rifles; the 1st Texas still had smoothbores but were able to reequip themselves with battlefield pickups.
>>18645062Irrefutable smoothbore, but the Confederate military department provided them with a Nessler bullet.>>18644922This.
>>18645062the Army of the Potomac was almost totally armed with .58 caliber rifles by the Antietam campaign. the ANV took until Gettysburg to be free of smoothbores.
James Longstreet was the best general of the war and one of the few that seemed to fully understand that the balance of power has squarely shifted to the side of defender on a tactical level. He likewise understood that the war can only end favorably trough political decision in the north.The fact he so strongly opposed to his corps getting thrown at the enemy lines at Gettysburg and advocated for extracting the army speaks volumes. He outright stated than no 15.000 men ever assembled for battle could take that position. That is to say he fully fully uderstood that the winning move is to force the enemy to attack you, attacking yourself only when necessary. No matter how 'impracticle' his idea was, as is often mentioned, it was better than wasting a third of your army attacking foritifed positions.He unironically got blamed for Gettysburg after the war because he switched to the Republican party and became a federalist, supported integration of blacks and even led a mixed militia against some race rioters. Interestingly he was not blamed until after Lee died. Lee respected Longstreet, his "old war horse", so much that no one dared speak ill of him while he was still alive.Thus Longstreet was gradually forgotten when not blamed for the ills of the Confederacy, meanwhile retarded rednecks went naming places after Hood, Bragg, Polk and other dumb retards.Prove me wrong; Pro tip: you can't
>>18645007Yeah I think people got this idea that guerrilla warfare is effective from Vietnam. Meanwhile, the guerrillas there were intentionally kind of wiped out in the one conventional action they attempted (Tet Offensive).The U.S. has their armed forces stationed in South Korea and Japan for 70 years now. They could've easily maintained a presence in Vietnam or even Afghanistan if they had really wanted to. Likewise, if they had completely shed their Christian morality, they could've Dresdened any village that showed signs of enemy activity. They simply reserve that sort of thing for Europeans I guess.
>>18645213>wiped out in the one conventional action they attempted (Tet Offensive)Remember, there was no air support back then.
>>18645107He and Joe Johnston (firm believer in Fabian strategies) could have won the war for Dixieland independence.
>>18644078>generals make mistakes in wars
>>18645007Most of the Southern enlisted weren't backwoods survivalists who could wage a war of attrition while hiding out in the Appalachian. The confederacy was largely dependent on logistical support from ports, railway hubs, and urban manufacturing centers just like the Union was. You're not gonna be able to create dynamite, percussion caps and minie balls on any meaningful level while camping out in some Kentuckian cave. It would end with a brutal occupation of the South with horrific reprisals inflicted on the populace anytime these guerilla ventured out of the mountains to disrupt Northern campaigns.
>>18645371Yeah that's what I'm saying. They'd just die, horribly, and probably piss off the north enough to actually punish the south once the war ended.
>>18645218Yeah and most of the actual guerrilla action was limited to the border states and mostly involved lynching random partisans from the other side. The Anaconda plan cut off the South from being resupplied by a friendly country. Mexico would've been the only candidate (and a meager one at that) to keep them going and they sided with the Union. Canada was more sympathetic to the South but were geographically too far to make a difference.A Southern guerrilla campaign, assuming it eventually succeeded, would've left the South even more decimated than it already was by exposing it to even more of the North's scorched earth tactics and raids.
>>18645348>>18644078He is unable to proceed without the contributions of Jackson, Stuart, and A.P. Hill.
>>18644247>Patrick Cleburne>Unionist Irish raid into Canadian ConfederacyContinued civil war until 1871https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Irish_Confederate_expedition_to_Scotland
>>18644078Why does the american civil war still cause so much seethe to this day? I get why the south might be bitter, they lost, but why do are northerners also so angry about it? They won.
>Lincoln asked Winfield Scott how was it that he was able to march almost 250 miles to Mexico City, but it was seemingly impossible to march 100 miles to Richmond. Scott replied "Because many of the men we are now fighting are the same ones who helped me capture Mexico City."
>>18645785Superior culture unlike the North.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_DLBVecSGY
>>18645785Some of it is this weird attempt by libs to tie in the South to the Post-WWII narrative. Some of it just regional rivalry (this usually plays out in Big 10 vs. SEC discourse though). A fair amount appears to be Star Wars names' hatred of the native culture.
>>18645813It's not just libs, half the people talking trash about the south are MAGA yankees. They are people rotten to their core, they will say any dictator is based and talk about kings all day long. But then when they think about the south, their Lincoln programming kicks in and they immediately revert to their brainwashing and begin talking shit about the south. The only explanation they will give is they want a powerful country and the south was in the way.
>>18645785I wish we were bitter about it. In 1898 when they sent the army down here to invade Cuba (one of the stupidest and most pointless wars in American history) everyone was afraid we'd pull some kind of stunt. Luckily for them, my ancestors had forgotten all about the war within the passing of one generation. But the Yankees just can't let go, the idea that we would actually fight for the right to govern ourselves gets them apoplectic. It was also just the most important non-Napoleonic war of the 19th century, and the pivotal moment in American decline, so the focus on it isn't unreasonable by any means.
>>18645851Why do you cheer about your ancestors letting go? "wow thankfully my ancestors were cucks and were good boys and served as zogbotgs for emperor Roosevelt." You are a lap dog.
>>18645851The Army changed from its traditional blue uniforms to green in 1902 as green was halfway between blue and gray, so it was a symbolic way of encouraging sectional unity with the South.
>>18645834>The only explanation they will give is they want a powerful country and the south was in the way.That's what it comes down to. I recall in one of his letters Sherman referred to the Southern States as "common land." I have no side in any recent Slavic conflicts, but this kind of desperation can best be compared to how desperate a Tsarist would be to hold on to Ukraine; they knew Russia was nothing without it, just as the North was nothing without the South. It was and is a parasitic relationship that only one side benefits from. The Union was a mistake from the start since the two sections were too distinct to share a government.>>18645852Didn't even read the first sentence award.
>>18645859Yeah even in the early 20th century the South was still powerful enough that they had to kiss our feet to get us to do their bidding--an arrangement that was equally humiliating for both parties. But unfortunately they didn't put the niggers back in their pens, so it wasn't much of an apology.
>>18645859in fact the green uniforms were first used in the Spanish-American War as the government was wary about the reception soldiers would get if they traveled through the South in the regulation blue ones. they made green standard issue for the Army a few years later.
>>18644078Was there ever any chance for the Confederacy?
>>18645872So, so many chances. If Lincoln never pulled that little stunt at Fort Sumter, he never would've had the popular support to begin his invasion in the first place, and he was running on fragile inertia after that. If you were going to tell the average Northerner the war would get 800k people killed in 1861, they would've sooner had Lincoln hanged than go to war--few of them thought it was worth it. A Southern victory was still completely conceivable even in 1864, it was only the abolition army's successes in the summer of that year that doomed the Southern cause. If the border states successfully seceded it would've been an easy Southern victory.
>>18645865>even in the early 20th century the South was still powerful enough thatnot at all. the South was completely buckbroken, impoverished, and irrelevant until the New Deal/WW2/Cold War built infrastructure and brought the region out of the Middle Ages.
>>18645851>>18645859The same 1898 war ex-Confederate veteran fought alongside the American flag.
Play war of rightshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNvneLk3gMI
>>18645984Listening to obnoxious attention seekers with microphones... no thanks
>>18645996Would you tho?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhavEt0oMLg
>>18646022No and I'm not watching your links either. I played mount and blade Napoleonic warfare which is a better game.
>>18644162They were idiots and not a real nation. They declared war without a real army. “States rights” was just a vehicle for slavery, not a wholistic philosophy.
Janny got offended that I likened yankees to imperialists. Guess what Janny, shove the warning up your ass. Trump as all presidents are the same authoritarians as Lincoln. warning me won't change that fact.
>>18646039i think it got deleted for the post mentioning Trump lol
>>18646031Yet the battle cry of freedom games flopped.
John Brown better dead as an commie
