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>you're hitler and it's 1942
What will you do?
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>>18648249
Kill myself
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>>18648249
Warn the Japanese about the battle of Midway
Get Japan to bring their aircraft carriers to the Atlantic to win the battle of Britain
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>>18648249
sue for peace ASAP under the condition I get shot instead of hanged
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>>18648249
put Donitz in charge and tell him I'll be gone for a month to meet Mussolini in Rome as a diversion from my real plan which is to change my appearance and hide as a Mennonite in Paraguay.
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> it's 1942
I already fucked up
I'd offer England and France to remove all my troops and all my gains west of Rhine in exchange for peace and hope they accept
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>>18648249
>give Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Ukraine and Ruthenia independence
>order my brightest generals to give me a plan on taking over Sweden in a very quick and painless campaign
>just promise Franco anything he wants, as long as he takes over Gibraltar
>destroy Malta by blowing it up with 6.7k tons of TNT
>rescind the order to shoot all commissars on sight
>don't try to indoctrinate the Dutch into joining a Greater Germanic Reich, as long as there is hope that they get to keep their Colonial Empire, it will never work, switch to a general no-nonsense occupation policy
>also don't work together with Fascist whackos from other countries, there is a reason why they weren't able to do shit, until we came along
>expand air ports in Scandinavia
>don't use the Luftwaffe over enemy territory anymore, except for very particular operations like taking over Murmansk, destroying Malta, etc, but they need to be preserved
>adopt a light fighter/multirole focus for the Luftwaffe
>don't waste so much steel on Flaktowers in Germany, you could have built like 10k Panzers with that
>retreat to Ukraine and the Baltics and prepare for a real Operation Zitadelle, with the goal to allow Germany to recover for the entire year and prepare for the next year
>just purge all of my diplomats and the Abwehr and rebuild these organisations from scratch
>try to build a real foreign intelligence service, partner with my Slavic allies to infiltrate Russia, put a genius in charge of it
>invest more into cryptology, radio and computers
>use the V2 rockets not to damage the morale of the enemy, but instead to destroy their logistics, create a doctrine around it
>don't trust Italy
>giving no retreat orders made sense for the battle of moscow, but after that it's a bad idea, make sure my troops aren't trapped
>use propaganda to sell the idea that my war is to liberate Russians from Communism
>give Germany enough time to develop Wunderwaffen
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>>18648249
Nothing cause everything was over the moment Barbarosa launched
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>>18648249
Tell Doenitz to stop making the u-boats send daily status reports because the British can triangulate the signals and find them.
Also, try to get Tirpitz to put to sea, even if it's just a fakeout to make the British freak out for a bit, hopefully maul a lend lease convoy or something

After that, try really hard to pull a "we're here to liberate you from the russians pls join the volunteer regiment we're sorry about the warcrimes and stuff" in all of Eastern Europe. Maybe grant Estonia and Latvia independence if they join the war.
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I AM ADOLF HITLER
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>>18648249
>1942
already fucked. Only hope is making a peace with Britain, France and America asap which isn't going to happen even with offering to go status quo ante bellum in Western Europe.
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>>18648313
>>18648820
See>>18648294
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>>18648249
>>18648403
>>18648311
Restored German Empire as Hans von Seeckt
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyBs4R741MA
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Give Ukraine and the Baltics de jure autonomy with strct conditions and in exchange for crimea and some southern lands.

Make peace with the western allies asap.
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>>18648249
Sex with my 6'2" muscle-bound leather-clad Aryan bodyguards. (They are all male)
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>>18648249
Speedrun nukes
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>>18648249
Surrender to Stalin
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Take the French and dump them in Ukraine. Take the Poles and dump them in France.Take the entire baltic population and dump it in Greece. Move the Greeks into Poland. Send all the Danish to Belarus, the Belarus to Norway, the Norwegians to Denmark.
Im talking millions of mass migrations.
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Actually do the Holocaust, but for real.
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>>18648820
>>18648313
It is kinda spooky how similar our posts are.
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>>18648847
Yes, Germany nuked the Soviet army as well as another in the English Channel to force Britain into peace negotiations.
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>>18649435
Based and Achaemenid pilled
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>>18648249
I would consider pulling some troops out of Norway or France. This could free up 200000 to 300000 men. The men in France could be replaced by allowing Vichy France to rearm to a limited degree and increasing the size of the "Free Zone" not occupied by German troops.

The men freed up by scaling down the garrisons in France and Norway could then be redeployed to push in the east. This would allow for further penetration into the Soviet Union with the goal of reducing the Soviet Union to a placid rump state. This will be achieved by offering a peace deal in the event that Moscow or Stalingrad is captured (or comes close to being captured. As a show of goodwill these cities would not be annexed but the USSR would be deprived of its best farmland and the industrial bits of Ukraine. Collaborationist governments would be established in Belarus, Ukraine, etc. some fake/cope country could be created to ensure the Molotov line is in German hands and deny Russia the strategic depth necessary to contemplate another war too soon.

With Russia neutralised troops could be moved to France and Italy to consolidate a fortress Europe and try to wait out Britain and America so as to eventually come to favourable terms.

The war was essentially a chimp out on Germany's part. They started on the back foot and finding accommodation as a great power within the existing world order is the best they can hope for in terms of the outcome of the war.

Actively invading Britain is out of the question and the USSR would probably pose a threat within 20 years after the end of ww2 provided it can still feed itself. Even depriving it of Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics and westernmost Russia still gives it a lot of resources, land, and people to play with.
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>>18648832
This video is unrealistic on so many levels.
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>>18648832
This video is realistic on so many levels.
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>>18648249
Send the entire German army into russia so they can go die and let the communists take over half of Europe.
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>>18648249
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>>18649853
>let the communists take over half
Spoken like useful cuckold/tankie
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>>18648249
Recruit 10 million black african mercenaries to the wehrmacht and waffen ss with the promise of full german citizenship and marriage rights after 6 months of service then kill myself
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>>18649911
You didn't get the joke?!?
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>>18649926
If Germany had african colonies left thats exacly what he would do
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>>18648294
>>18648313
>>18648820
Only correct posts.
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>>18649933
>joke
Lenin soda
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What if Great Britain let Canadians arm themselves with mass-produced Vicky variants or Aussies get the Johnson Model R14?
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>>18648820
>make peace with america
>shortly after declaring war on america
I get where you're coming from, but holy shit its hilarious to see how badly germany fucked themselves over in ww2. they were already not in a good spot and then they decided to just finish declaring war on the entire world for funsies
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>>18648847
with what physicists? all the best german physicists fled to the us in the 30s, and the nazis considered nuclear physics jewish until it was clear the us was trying to develop atomic weapons
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>>18648294
fpbp
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>>18648249
Sue for peace. 1942 isn't too late for this to be a possibility.
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>>18648249
Not send millions to die in Stalingraf. The thing is, I probably wouldn't know it. It seems like a reasonable explanation that people refused to admit to Hitler how badly they failed in Moscow, and that was what make him do this catastrophic move.
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>>18648249
It's already lost by that point.
Just look at the map, they can't kill the USSR, the front already stabilized. It's only a matter time when the allied war machines started ramping up
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>>18650029
Saying that Germans were the ones that declared war on Britain, France, USA is... dishonest. They didn't want any of that. Germany wanted one war - in the east. Hitler wanted Eastern Europe, war against Soviets. Pearl Harbor isnt Germany's idea.
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>>18650328
The Germans did declare on the USA though, you could say they only declared because of what their ally did, but then you could say that about the UK and France too
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>>18650386
>but then you could say that about the UK and France too
well i am. UK and France didnt want war either, thats why Chamberlain waved that letter.

Im saying its different when you declare war because you want it
- Japan actually wanted to fight war against US for territory
- Germany actually wanted to fight war against USSR for territory.

vs
>we are declaring war on you not because we want war against you, but because you invaded Poland now, and they are our allies
>we are declaring war on you not because we want war against you, but because Japan is at war with you now, and they are our allies
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>>18650426
>Japan actually wanted to fight war against US
Actually started from Hull Note, a ultimatum
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>>18648249
surrender to the allies to save europe from the ussr menace.
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>>18649680
>With Russia neutralised troops could be moved to France and Italy to consolidate a fortress Europe and try to wait out Britain and America so as to eventually come to favourable terms.
how do you deal with strategic bombing? With the US as enemy it was only a matter of time until the western allies would achieve total air superiority over Germany and bomb their cities to dust which you cannot survive for more than a few years
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>>18650652
Diffusing supply throughout Europe by contracting firms in occupied territories and rehabilitated France could help negate some effects of the bombing. Germany already controls the exchange rates for currencies in occupied territories at this point and so a rifle or fighter made in France will be cheaper than one in Germany if a German firm (or the German state) pays in marks. Do this throughout all occupied territories so now Britain and the USA have to carpet bomb most of Europe or come to terms. I don't think they would be able to carry out a campaign this large. I talked to a British academic about industrial recover post ww2 during my degree and he said a lot of the equipment inside factories in Europe (not just war stuff) was still intact at the end of the war so production was able to come back online relatively quickly. This was with Britain and America focussing most of their strength on bombing Germany. Now imagine an equivalent allied strength having to bomb the whole of Europe. I grant you that maybe the British/American air force would be slighly larger because less effort is being spent on lend-lease to Russia but this would only be very slight because you cannot retool/retrain a factory that makes rubber medical gloves or overcoats to make guns, tanks and planes very quickly.

If manufacturing could be contracted out to neutral countries like Sweden or Spain then that is even better as Britain cannot bomb them without being the aggressor. However then you would have to pay the actual price for stuff instead of one mediated through an artificially strong reichsmark.

Maybe make use of something similar to the peddled scheme ww1 Britain used to slightly boost production with minimal investment/infrastructure/start up capital.
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>Step 1
Immediately sue for peace to the allies.

>Step 2
Declare independence for Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania etc.

>Step 3
Arm every motherfucker in those regions
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>>18650032
Oppenheimer and Barbie aren't real History KEK
>LMAO EVEN
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>>18650426
Germany did not declare war on USA because Japan attacked.
This is a bullshit boomer myth.
Why?
Because Japan never declared war on the USSR when Germany attacked, so Germany didnt owe Japan anything.

Germany declared war on USA because they were already at war in the Atlantic.
US navy was escorting allied convoys and had orders to fire on German subs (so called 'shoot-on-sight' order). The war delcaration merely formalized the situation but also allowed German subs to operate inside US waters, which actually greatly improved the situation (the so-called "Second Happy Times").
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>>18650933
Typical retarded nazis without any kind of fucking foresight.
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>>18650937
Cope + Rent Free
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>>18650948
You're the one coping and seething because retarded nazis lost the war. The fact you think declaring war on the US 'greatly improved' the situation indicates you're also a fucking retard so that checks out.
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apologize to the soviet union and ally with them against the capitalists
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>>18650951
And? Nazis later work with NATO, Soviet intelligent, and rocket science
>You're the one coping and seething
Look who talking.
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>>18650962
Lmao, talk about coping.
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>>18650951
Just so you know, me and him are not the same person. The post I made about Germany declaring war on the US to formalize the situation in the Atlantic, was my first post in this thread.
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>>18650499
USSR invaded capitalist-allied Poland in 1920's and Britain and France didn't move one soldier to the East to save thair puppet state, so they wouldn't save Germany either with the advancing Judeo-Bolshevik army ... in truth, they already did not: Anglo-Saxon armies halted their offensive to let the red army rape half of Deutschland and destroy our cities in the spring of 1945.
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>>18650967
It didn't 'formalize' shit except the 'Europe first' policy and shifted the US on a war footing while deploying a million soldiers directly to the UK to prepare for the invasion of France. By 1944 German cities are suffering thousand bomber raids from the USAAF while the Lufwaffe gets shredded by the increasing number of P-47's and P-51's. The fact you call one of the greatest strategic blunders of world war 2 as 'greatly improving the situation' because it led to some short-term tactical succes for u-boats is fucking hilarious.


Imagine if Putin declared war on NATO right now to 'formalize' the situation since we're directly aiding Ukraine and seizing Russian tankers. That's the big brain move Hitler pulled off. Yeah, let's get the largest industrial power on earth that's safely an ocean away directly involved into this war, great idea Adolf.
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>>18650920
And what of the rebellion ?
If the baltic rebels, armed with stolen rifles, obtain the day-to day read-out of the OKH's plans & operations, they might find a weakness and exploit it.
(report that to Moskau or London, or set-up a trap... just like Polish Jews and young Freemasons front did in Warschau slaughter in 1944)
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>>18650933
Great asessment !

>DEUTSCHLAND was fighting USA in NORTH CAROLINA ???
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>>18650965
...your coping?
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Glory for the emperor!
https://youtu.be/vi4GFX43DNs?t=551&is=NdyKYpfLMH6Pa9Nv
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>>18648313
>>18648820
They literally did this and Britian declined.
The offer was made through a Swedish mediator.
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>>18651166
That's a lie. They never planned to leave Poland for example. They offered German hegemony on the continent, which is what Britain tried to prevent.
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>>18650951
>>18650937
You are aware the US was taking German outposts, holding German soldiers as POWs, and attacking German vessels right?
If a country took over an American base and took some marines captive the United States would bomb them the next day.
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>>18651173
Actually they did. They offered a full restoration of Poland.
>Germany hegemony on the continent
Germany was a hegemon in 1914 when they ruled ALL of Western Poland?
Germany was a hegemon in 1937 which was the status quo they offered to return to via Sweden?
please explain.
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>>18651175
Great, they still declared the war only after Japan attack.
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>>18651177
Source? Please post your source and how exactly Hitler planned to do it if they annexed Western Poland and deported all the Poles to the GG.

Sorry, I don't trust you, post what Hitler actually proposed.
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>>18651178
The United States declared war on Iraq after Japan's attack as well, are those also related?

Did you know Germany literally stated the reasons for war with the United States?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_declaration_of_war_against_the_United_States#German_declaration
Where in the German declaration does it mention Japan?
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>>18651182
I'm sure it was merely a coincidence, lol.
>Germany stated the reason
Who gives a fuck what their totalitarian government officially said?
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>>18651175
I fucking love how you idiots will go about justifying the dumbest shit possible on some retarded principle.

>b-but they sunk our sub and arrested our spies
and now they're firebombing every major city in Germany, FAFO, retard.
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>>18648249
Have sex.
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>>18651180
>you cannot transfer land once its been transferred
Yes you can??
>100% of Poles were moved
source????
>post the actual Sweden deal
Its already been posted before but here it is (again).
Hitler´s peace proposal is as follows:

>1) The British Empire retains all its Colonies.
>2) Germany´s position on the continent will not be questioned.
>3) All questions concerning the Mediterranean and its French, Belgian and Dutch colonies are open to discussion.
>4) A Polish state must exist.
>5) The former Czechoslovakian states remain independent but under German protection.
>Ekeberg understands that this implies that the states occupied by Germany would de-occupied. Germany's occupation was only due to the present war situation.

Its not that you dont trust me, its that you dont want it to be true because you are politically opposed to the National Socialists.
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>>18651188
>>18651190
Why do basic facts cause such anger among the disabled?
these spiteful mutants literally could not be more hateful lmao.
continue seething.
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>>18651198
>1) The British Empire retains all its Colonies.
Colonies which Germany can not reach or deprive from Britain.

>2) Germany´s position on the continent will not be questioned.
So much about status quo ante bellum.

Basically a 'pls surrender' and make a 'deal' after Germany broke every other deal from the Anglo-German naval agreement onwards.Gee, I wonder why they were told to fuck off.
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>>18651202
>Germany cannot threaten Britain's holdings
Germany definitely could reach Malta and Egypt.
Also whats the relevance? Germany is stating they have no designs on Britain's colonies.
>so much about status quo
uhhhhh you do realize this was when Germany was offering a full withdrawal right?
It means Germany makes no concessions.
That IS the status quo of 1937.
>Germany broke every other deal
nope. not a single one.
>Anglo-German naval agreement
Which Germany never broke lmao.
Germany literally was not able to break the treaty due to their inability to produce ships at the rate necessary to surpass Britain's stipulation of 35% tonnage.
Britain also violated the treaty a year prior to the war breaking out by interfering in Germany's sphere of influence and pushing other countries such as Poland and France toward an anti-German foreign policy.

Youre wrong on all accounts.
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>>18651198
>A Polish state must exist.
Lol, that's not the same as
>They offered a full restoration of Poland.
Why are you like this?
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>>18651206
>Germany definitely could reach Malta and Egypt.
Except they couldn't when they tried, you fucking tard.

>>let me rape your neighbors and I'll let you live in your house
>>no I can't actually do anything to you or your house but that's my 'peace' offer bro
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>>18651206
They literally never offered full withdrawal. I can't tell if you're just some Nazitard or if you're genuinely this stupid.

>Germany´s position on the continent will not be questioned
This literally means that Germany remains a European continental hegemon.
>A Polish state must exist.
Yes, a rump puppet state created from the GG.
>remain independent but under German protection
So no change in the status of the Protectorate.
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>>18648249
how fast could they dig a trench lines across the entire front, and diverting some rivers to create swamps all around
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>>18648249
Become a communist
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>>18651198
Now I get if why he went through with the Polish invasion, he wanted to use them as a bargaining chip
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>>18651212
>they couldn’t
They literally went beyond Malta idiot.
Do you mean they couldn’t take Malta because that isn’t what you said lmfao.
>strawman
lol
unserious as usual.
You were wrong again.
Now you’re coping.
>>18651215
>literally never offered a full withdrawal
They literally did, that’s what was on the table in the Sweden deal.
>remains a continental hegemon
How can Germany be a continental hegemon when they aren’t even the strongest on the continent?
>this literally means
No it doesn’t, it literally means England will not demand concessions from Germany.
That is specifically what was said in similar offers such as the September 2 offer.
General Government wasn’t the state of Poland lol.
They said a Polish state and like in other deals they were offering a return to the government in exile.
>no change
Nope. That they wouldn’t become a satellite of another power. The Germans were still offering to rescind their gains in Sudete.
You were wrong, you’re only arguing because you’re anti Nazi, not because you’re concerned with the truth.

Are you anti-Nazi?
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>>18651209
They offered a restoration multiple times and to varying degrees.
The whole point of the offer to get Britain to the table.
For example Germany asked for peace on September 2 before Poland had lost any territory.

Germany was clearly not interested in territorial gains. And all of their previous gains were done for humanitarian reasons.

You’re anti Nazi right?
I think you’re arguing because you’re anti Nazi, not because you care about the truth.
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>>18648249
Fake my own death and leave instructions for the OKW to take over the government, purge the SS and sue for immediate peace with the Western Allies



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