Iberia under Muslim rule:A beacon of science, arts and tolerance, the learning capital of Europe, the most prosperous state of that peninsula with delusions of a continent, non-Muslims were not only left alone but many elevated into high positions of Andalusian society such as bankers, merchants, poets, scientists, and even advisors to the Ummayad court, an hygienic society where everyday bathhouses were common, a superpower state that rivaled the savage Franks, the decadent Byzantines and the heretical Abbassids. People from the entirety peninsula of Asia called Europe came en masse to Andalusia for the free and advanced medical care it offered.Iberia under judeochristian rule:A backwards feudal shithole where any non-judeochristian was brutally murdered, expelled, tortured etc. An obscurantist society that burnt and destroyed every single scientific book written in arabic, bathouses converted to literal goat stables, the kingdoms that emerged from land stolen from the moorish people became relevant from half a century by plundering, torturing and genociding defenseless stone age peoples from the Western Hemisphere, it quickly fell into irrelevance and during the entire early modern period was considered the backyard of europe and France/Austria little lapdogs
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>>18648503You are pakistani and therefore a demon in human skin and your opinion is irrelevant.
>>18648508Allah bless this ahki
>>18648503Islam was imposed on dark hell-spawned demons to make them worship the one true God or die, but now they worship a cube and have become completely retarded.
>>18648511>>18648513Brown people are not demons. Please repent
>>18648515To be fair they're abominations bearing the dark taint of hell-spawned demons, but calling them dark hell-spawned demons like their fathers isn't inaccurate either. Last time they were wiped out with the flood, next time is supposed to be fire and rivers of blood.
>>18648508>our architecture>religion is younger than christianityzuttslamists are not the smartest
>>18648503if zuttslam was the thing that brought science and elevated people, every muslim country wouldnt be a shithole over all this time you had to become great.
>>18648503I think this thread is very ignorant. Any historian who deals with the history of art, philosophy, or geography knows that Spain plays an essential role. Even if we ignore Hispano-Roman philosophers like Seneca the Elder, Seneca the Younger, Prudentius, Juvenal, Martial, Moderatus of Gades, Columella, etc., there was vast academic productivity in Spain during the Early Middle Ages (prior to the Islamic invasion) and the Renaissance.
>>186485831. From the late patristics of Gothic Spain you have: Saint Isidore of Seville, perhaps the most important and influential thinker of the European Middle Ages, challenged only by Saint Augustine, given the broad range of topics he addressed and the fact that for almost 1,000 years his works were the benchmark in most educational centers across the continent. Just to mention his encyclopedic, historiographical, theological, and scientific works. Among some of the historians and theologians influenced by him were Bede the Venerable (historiography and physics), Alcuin of York (who based his grammatical-typological systematization on the one made by the Spanish bishop in Gothic Spain), Peter Lombard (who was inspired by Saint Isidore's Sententiae), etc.If we consider other patristic figures of the time, we have Samuel Taius, who initiated the "Summa Theologiae" genre used very profusely by the scholastics, which is why it is said that Scholasticism was born in Gothic Spain. And other bishops and poets of significance such as Saint Ildephonsus, Saint Leander of Seville, etc.On an artistic level, the Commentary on the Apocalypse by Beatus of Liébana, a pen pal of Alcuin of York—his work was the first international European hit, with dozens of copies across Spain, England, and France, along with other lost copies. Nor should we forget that the Gothic monarchy financed the creation of the monastery of Servitanum (now lost) by 70 monks exiled from Africa; it housed one of the largest libraries of the Early Middle Ages. Thus, the Spanish Christian community saw the development of the main theological debate of the Early Middle Ages surrounding adoptionism, defended by Bishop Migetius and Elipandus, Archbishop of Toledo.
>>186485852. Moving on to the High Middle Ages, a time when Spain experienced quite a decline in academic matters, there continued to be spectacular artistic production. In fact, alongside Italy, Spain was one of the main epicenters of Romanesque art production around the Way of St. James, with the Cathedral of Santiago de Compostela being the largest and most important Romanesque construction of its time.Likewise, the Toledo School of Translators translated and commented on works by Greek and Arab philosophers from Arabic into Spanish, which then spread throughout the continent.Then Ramon Llull was one of the main philosophers at the turn of the 13th century and the rejection of Scholasticism. He was the father of "combinatory logic," which later inspired Leibniz's "combinatorial calculus." He was also the leading philosopher with treatises on chivalric morals, alongside the Castilian count Don Juan Manuel. In this regard, Spain developed chivalric ethics to such an extent that Don Quixote's nods to it are quite obvious to any medievalist. There were also some minor philosophers like Gonsalvus of Spain, master of Duns Scotus.If we look at the Late Middle Ages, there are some minor figures like Petrus Hispanus and Saint Vincent Ferrer, two of the main philosophers of language and logic of the Middle Ages, and the principal references of the period from the Thomistic or realist perspective against the nominalism of Ockham and Duns Scotus. Additionally, the Archbishop of Toledo and historian Jiménez de Rada, papal legate in Spain and a collaborator of the Pope at the Lateran Council and counter-evangelization of Africa, was considered by his Aragonese, Portuguese, German, English, and French peers to be the wisest man within the Church of his generation. This is no trivial matter, as his work De Rebus Hispaniae is one of the historiographical works with the greatest scientific ambition of the Western Middle Ages.
>>186485913. During the Renaissance and Baroque, the Spanish monarchy was the greatest patron of art in Italy and the Netherlands following the Sack of Rome in 1527: Van der Weyden, Rubens, Titian, El Greco, Tintoretto, etc. Spain itself developed its own artistic school, the Sevillian school with artists like Velázquez, Murillo, or Zurbarán.On a literary level, Cervantes was the father of the modern novel, and his character Don Quixote is the idealist par excellence of universal literature. Spanish literature was also the first to challenge the Aristotelian literary canons observed throughout Europe. The tragicomedies of Lope de Vega, the novels and satires of Quevedo (author of the famous picaresque work El Buscón), or early existentialist novels like those of Baltasar Gracián made Spanish literature the foremost of the Renaissance and the Baroque.During the 15th century and the first decades of the 17th century, Spain was the epicenter of the main philosophical and geographical debates of the era. Among them were matters concerning the sphericity of the Earth, the first scientific expeditions since Antiquity (including ocean exploration and mapping voyages), and zoological, botanical, and anthropological expeditions to the Americas, etc. There was also the first great debate regarding Ius Gentium (the Law of Nations) surrounding the conquest and colonization of the Americas, or the philosophical debate on destiny and free will the "De Auxiliis controversy" between Jesuits and Dominicans. In general, Jesuit and Dominican thinkers abounded during this period, delving profoundly into semiotics, jurisprudence, logic, grammar, anthropology, and metaphysics/epistemology. Suffice it to say that the first grammar book of a vernacular language in Europe was the Castilian grammar by Antonio de Nebrija. Or Francisco Suárez, the great systematizer of Scholastic metaphysics and jurisprudence, the "Thomas Aquinas" of the Jesuits.
>>18648598Not to forget neither that during the XVI and XVII centuries the Jesuits leaded the evangelization of America and Asia, stablished missions there where they were the first ones to explore alternative social organizations that later on inspired socialists. The Jesuits also openned schools, seminaries and universities across all of Europe and America.4. During the Bourbon period, there was a certain awakening following the scientific discoveries in France, Netherlands and England during the second half of the 17th century and the whole 18th century, despite being amidst a general decline. The Bourbons supported the Paris Academy of Sciences with funds and mathematicians in their project of measuring the Earth's meridian. Likewise, just as Emperor Charles V and his son Philip II had done two centuries earlier, the Bourbons financed botanical, zoological, and anthropological scientific expeditions to the Americas. Mutis, a pen pal of Carl Linnaeus and later, in his old age, of Humboldt, studied, classified, and illustrated tens of thousands of plants in what is today Colombia, Venezuela, and Ecuador. And just like him, other scientists worked for the Bourbons throughout the New World.Another quintessential case was that the Bourbons financed history's first free, state-sponsored vaccination campaign between 1803 and 1806 across the Philippines and South America. The Bourbons also funded the beginning of archaeological excavations in Pompeii during the 18th century, along with other excavations in southern Italy. Furthermore, they sent experts to the Americas who were tasked with scientifically studying the history of the Maya, Aztecs, Incas, and other indigenous cultures, which later laid the groundwork for the work of many modern archaeologists and anthropologists. Although it is not as grandiose as the cultural and academic splendor during the time of the Habsburgs, it is true that the Bourbons were great patrons of science in their time.
>>18648503NUKEMECCANOWKILLTHEMALLESPECIALLYTHATGOATFUCKINGFAGGOTPAKI-FAGHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
>>18648503It was because barbarian Goths took it from the Romans. Under Roman rule it was just as advanced.
>>18649174The Goths in Spain and Italy are directly linked with the Late Latin Patristic.
>>18648503>zuttcaliphate falls>Spain golen age startsNobody miss it
>>18649124Stfu amerimutt
>>18649124BASED>kek
>>18648503didnt this guy dye his blonde hair black to resemble his umayyad arab forefathers?
By the time of the Almoravid, Al-Andalus had turned into a fanatical shithole. The golden age was over. The Reconquista was a mercy kill.
>>18648503Theodore Hertzl looking motherfucker
>>18648508Why do christians have models of Jeshua hanging on a cross as decoration?Don't they realise how demonic it looks?
>>18648503The important thing is that we can debate how good muslim Spain was, brownoids like the creature on this video >>18648508 had nothing to do with it. It was the fruit of the labour and genuis of native Iberians who had embrassed Islam, which is why it was indeed the shining beacon of the Islamic world, because of its superior human capital.
>>18649124The hate at the bottom of every judeo-christian heart. This is what allowing the holy spirit to possess you does to you.You lose track of reality and talk about killing women, children and innocents. Echoing the commands of the judeo-christian god.
