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>Harding is among the worst presidents
He is among the best. He was the most popular post-civil war president while he was alive, partly as a reaction to the Wilson administration. Wilson was re-elected on a "he kept us out of war!" platform in 1914, but entered the war in 1917 (Harding voted in favor of the war). During the war, Wilson massively expanded the federal government's powers and roles. WW1 left Europe and the US in a depression, in response to which Harding cut spending and taxes. Whatever the causes and effects, the US economy roared back. He is most well-remembered now for his scandals, but his most practically lasting impact was his Budget and Accounting Act of 1921, which mandated a consolidated federal budget. The infamous Teapot Dome and Veterans' Bureau scandals did not actually involve him, but rather his 2nd tier appointees--he delegated his executive power to his politically diverse cabinet, which included Mellon, Charles Hughes, and Hoover, giving Hoover the clearance he needed to save perhaps a million Russians from starvation (despite the US not officially recognizing the demonic Bolshevik regime), which should have won "The Great Humanitarian" a Nobel prize, but didn't. Harding also made the admirable choice of Coolidge for VP.
>Harding's unexpected death came as a great shock to the nation. He was liked and admired, both the press and public had followed his illness closely, and had been reassured by his apparent recovery.[202] Harding's body was carried to his train in a casket for a journey across the nation, which was followed closely in the newspapers. Nine million people lined the railroad tracks as the train carrying his body proceeded from San Francisco to Washington, D.C.
After his death, the scandals came out, and nobody bothered to defend him, least of all his cabinet and former political allies, who had much to gain by placing all blame on a dead man.
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>NORMALCY???? THAT'S NOT IN MY DICTIONARY!!!!!! STUPID CHUD!!!!
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femoids be like
>I love guys who are good with animals!
femoid demoncraps when they see Harding
>NOT LIKE THAT!!!! YOU'RE PART BLACK!!! RACIST!!!
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>>18649722
I never knew much about this guy, why is he so hated?
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>>18649801
Did you read what I wrote, fanook?
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>>18649801
>After his death, the scandals came out
is why. He's basically remembered for corruption.
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>>18649722
>Wilson was re-elected on a "he kept us out of war!" platform in 1914
1916*
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>>18649722

Ignoring that is what I find preposterous from /his, usually involved in banal academic discussions misled long ago.
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>>18650250
>lebbit bait
retard
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You can tell something about a man by how he treats animals.
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>Warren G. Harding was said to have African ancestry; one claim was by his political opponent William Estabrook Chancellor, a controversial and racist historian, who said that Harding's father was a mulatto,and that Harding's great-grandmother was black.[15] During Harding's campaign, Democratic opponents spread rumors that Harding's great-great-grandfather was a West Indian black, and that other blacks might be found in his family tree.[44]
>The rumors may have been sustained by a statement Harding allegedly made to newspaperman James W. Faulkner on the subject, which he perhaps meant to be dismissive: "How do I know, Jim? One of my ancestors may have jumped the fence."[48] However, while there are gaps in the historical record, studies of his family tree have not found evidence of an African-American ancestor.[49]
>Genetic testing of Harding's descendants in 2015 determined, with more than a 95% percent chance of accuracy, that he lacked sub-Saharan African forebears within four previous generations.[50]
Democrats STILL have Harding Derangement Syndrome (HDS)
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>>18649722
Checked. Is Harding's early death an early sign of God's condemnation of the USA?
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On Christmas Day 1921, Harding commuted Debs’s 10-year sentence (imposed under the Wilson administration for an anti-war speech under the Espionage Act) to time served. Debs left the Atlanta federal penitentiary amid cheers from fellow inmates and traveled to Washington at Harding’s request. They met at the White House on December 26, 1921.
Harding’s reported greeting was warm and informal: “Well, I’ve heard so damned much about you, Mr. Debs, that I am now glad to meet you personally” (wording varies slightly across accounts, sometimes including “very glad”).
Debs’s public comments to reporters afterward were limited and cordial:
“Mr. Harding appears to me to be a kind gentleman, one whom I believe possesses humane impulses. We understand each other perfectly.”
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>>18649722
Generally, the more extreme you see the "mainstream" as being, the more likely it is a (you) problem.
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>>18651322
Would you say that to Lincoln ca 1860, retarded demoncrap?
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>>18651355
I would acknowledge that my view that slavery is fundamentally unAmerican and that races are equal was in the minority at the time, put faith my knowledge that the war would drastically shift the Overton Window, and then vote enthusiastically for Lincoln.
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>>18651364
>I would say I'm right for holding a historically unpopular opinion
>but you're still probably wrong for holding a historically unpopular view
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>>18651374
Both statements are compatible. I think I am right and that you are wrong. You think the opposite. I think the historical consensus today is right on Harding. You do not. But either way, whether we agree or not with the historical consensus is irrelevant to whether or not it carries academic weight. The consensus is its own center of gravity, and if someone wants to displace it, they must prove their alternate idea worthy in the arena of intellectual battle.
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>>18651384
>But either way, whether we agree or not with the historical consensus is irrelevant to whether or not it carries academic weight.
Correct!
>The consensus is its own center of gravity, and if someone wants to displace it, they must prove their alternate idea worthy in the arena of intellectual battle.
Incorrect!
>The consensus is its own center of gravity, and if someone wants to displace it, they must prove their alternate idea worthy in the arena of intellectual battle.
Did you read OP? It's your move now to refute it.
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>>18651426
I did read OP. I disagree with the argument but do not feel indignant about it. What I feel indignant about is the implication that any disagreement is somehow illegitimate and/or in bad faith. I see no reason why us randos on the internet have the right to be the arbiters of any such judgements. So, OP can write a dissertation and take it to the academy. If he wins and starts a revisionist wave, then he would have proven himself worthy. If not, then the failure of the academic trial by combat is its own verdict.
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>>18651490 (Me)
Someone may come later to vindicate OP. The Dunning school of the American Civil War was tossed out, and W.E.B Dubois was ushered in. But for every good idea that is kept down but eventually sees the light of day, five bad ideas are rightfully kept in the dark where they belong.
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>>18651490
>What I feel indignant about is the implication that any disagreement is somehow illegitimate and/or in bad faith
I didnt mean to imply that, perhaps you inferred.
>So, OP can write a dissertation and take it to the academy. If he wins and starts a revisionist wave, then he would have proven himself worthy. If not, then the failure of the academic trial by combat is its own verdict.
Ah, your previous statement makes sense now as an example of projection. In any case, you failed to engage with any of OP's claims.
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>>18651530
No... I am not bitter at all about having something of mine rejected from a publication!... What could have POSSIBLY given you that impression!?



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