You travel back in time to 1st century Christianity. Which version of Christianity do you see?
>>18651864already in the General Epistles you see schismatics rejecting the Apostles. on the other hand, you find Clement preaching salvation by grace alone through faith alone. >all these, therefore, were highly honoured, and made great, not for their own sake, or for their own works, or for the righteousness which they wrought, but through the operation of His will. And we, too, being called by His will in Christ Jesus, are not justified by ourselves, nor by our own wisdom, or understanding, or godliness, or works which we have wrought in holiness of heart; but by that faith through which, from the beginning, Almighty God has justified all men; to whom be glory for ever and ever. Amen.
It’s completely different in every synagogue. There’s no dogma yet. They fight with each other constantly. Some of them are pagans who also worship Jesus. They don’t even agree on what exactly Christ was. TLDR it’s a weird Jewish mess
>>18651864Gnosticism. Anyone who calls Gnosticism a 2nd-century forgery is psyoped by Yaldabaoth
You would see a thousand different versions, and none of them would resemble any later medieval or modern version of Christianity, though there would be superficial similarities here and there.
>>18651864I guess everyone was practicing their own (and many incorrect by todays standars) version since things weren't setted
>>18651864Things were fairly standard very early on, let's say immediately after Jesus ascended to Heaven circa AD 30-36. By the time the Book of Revelation was written, supposed to have been authored at the tail end of the 1st century, there is evidence that various churches had fairly different norms and moral qualities, though some more standardization may have existed by then, than during the very middle of the century, as the Didache had possibly already circulated by then, as well as the other biblical books of the New Testament. Revelation is supposed to have been the very last of the divinely-inspired scriptural books to go into circulation amongst the churches. The Church as a whole would become gradually more standardized into the 2nd century, developing from the congregationalist polity of most of the 1st century, and perhaps a late 1st century and early 2nd century presbyterian polity, showing a transition into the more mid-2nd century and later development into the general episcopal polity that is familiar to so many denominations coming from traditions stemming from a certain point in Antiquity, such as Roman Catholicism, Eastern and Oriental Orthodoxy, the Church of the East, and also most of Lutheranism and Anglicanism, as well as Hussitism/Moravianism. Virtually everything post-biblical writers wrote indicates that they believed that the Eucharist/Lord Supper is meant to be taken literally, as in it is Christ's body and blood, or that Christ is within and in the elements, or even both views could have been extent.
>>18651962>Things were fairly standard very early onNigga, they couldn't even agree if Jesus was 100% divine, human or both
>>18651965I just suppose that immediately after Jesus ascended, that was a cut-off point of more agreement to somewhat less and less, until perhaps very late into the century, due to the Apostles' instructions and maybe even the Didache's publication.
>>18651962Ya bro pic rel is totally standard orthodoxy for modern Christianity. It totally didn’t take 300 years of tard wrangling by Constantine and other church leaders for Christianity to become coherent. Keep coping retard
>>18651969Cope, it was a mess from the very beginning
>>18651969Early Christianity wasn't standar at all since there were no centralized or official written rules. They were completely different people that believed in Jesus along their own understanding. But you had lots of Jews that believed in Christ that remained Jewish practicers by todays standars. You had ex-pagans like Romans that were interpreting shit according to their own pagan traditions and logic. Not to mention there was no "canon" bible yet to put some order.
>>18651984The very early Church Fathers indicated that degrees of standardization already existed during the early-to-mid-2nd century. Perhaps somewhat less so during the late 1st, but the Didache is said to have dated around then, and the Apostles were still alive to correct congregations, even if many went waywards.
>>18651989The apostles didn’t even agree with each other wtf are you on about?
I'll tell you what you wouldn't find: belief in the Trinity.
>>18651864First century Christianity was a largely centralised group with a few obvious leaders who communicated to communities across the empire and with each other. Christianity in the 2nd century was larger and with figures of less authority amongst each other as those in the 1st century, which is where we start to see major divisions, although the majority kept to a general recognition of each other as legitimate even if they didn't believe all the same things, (Trinitarianism is an example, where few thought it was a schismatic issue to argue about, that would only pick up in the 3rd century). The pre-Imperial Church was relatively united, they could live with small doctrinal differences, mostly because they didn't care all that much. Ironically it was Imperial attempts to have a single united opinion which created massive schisms.
>>18651864A largely Jewish sect waiting for an apocalypse that is supposed to come very soon. Jesus is mostly seen as not God but someone doing God's work. Most likely there are some beliefs of the earthly world being evil (ruled by the devil and demons who try to stop you from getting into heaven) but no full Gnostic Demiurge stuff yet. Salvation doctrine is not formed fully yet, but believers either think that Jesus cleared the way for people's souls to ascend to God's throne (maybe by literally kicing demons out who would try to stop you) or that he is making arrangements for the apocalypse that will result in God's kingdom on Earth.
Each year niggas will do a new interpretation of Christianity, etablish a new denomination and gaslight themselves into believing it was the original one.
>>18651864Docetism
>>18652028>Unitarian pseudo-IslamistDid you know your Hashem and Allah are the same God?
>>18652152Nta, if he's a unitarian, he's your christian brother. You should embrace him.
>>18652203So...are you bi-gendered like Jeffery Epstein, or are you mono-gendered like Adam?Jeffery Epstein was dominated by his internal woman and his internal male perspective was inverted making it closer to "two women", who could not say no to taking apples, as he had two right hands..."not taking" isnt an option. Or Adam, who in being equally yoked with a mono-gendered Eve, defaulted to the wife's position as Eve's sinning was the motive force leading the relationship, being the original sin of equality.Ruled by women, within or without...plundered from within or without.>brotherWhy are you attempting to lecture me about my sons, boy? Your Hashem/Allah/Holy Spirit has more in common with you than either of you have with me.>"The Father is greater than I."What makes them connected, and what makes them unequal? >"Ezekiel made to eat shit-bread."Humiliation ritual...sure sounds like Jesus, huh? No? Would a Father do such a thing to a child? No? Thats what a woman thinks "domination" is, humilation and subjugation. Hence why both Adam and Epstein/Judas are effeminate...The Trinity is beyond human comprehension and is NOT "Father/Son/Holy Ghost" as that is a placeholder for the world. Its related to Cognition and hemispheres of the brain, the correlations of fundemental Physics and Physiology.You cannot be explained what is beyond your capacity of understanding.
>>18652203>your christianAnd I was there...when the Neo-Caliphate was formed, and went back twice to check on it after it took power.Its structured off of the neutron (both proton and electron in one), but even then, inside of the hueman vessal, requires a "one or the other" in structure as there are many layers between a single atom and the hueman body, thats the ISIS half. Iran attempts this by maintaining the heart-half while Judeans cut themselves from it...the heart is male, the brain is female.Hashem chooses Judeans for this, so it results in female energy with the female organ, and makes them, by definition, anti-Jesus...but that is what a woman is; the opposite of a man, a second order operator not definable independely.This also correlates to Pure Mathematics, with "i" being neither pro/anti. If you cannot follow the structure of reality to Genesis 1:1/Big Bang then you cannot say objectively "what a woman is".
>>18652247I have no idea what this mental illness you just posted before me is. Save the drama for your mama.
>>18652253>ISIS halfPsycho(head)-path, "hardened hearts" like Judeans...thats why ISIS and Israel never fought. The Taliban is the heart half. (All of these groups overlap in one way, even if they dont in others.)Neutral is the closest you can get to "unitarian", but its energy is "neither", not "both" (even though it decays into both over time, it requires a slight positive charge to maintain it over time).Eminence gris, or Grey Cardinal, is that...so, it existed before Muhammed, or Jesus, or Adam, and all three religions have them inside of themselves as all three particles exist in them as well, the question of "One true path." is orientation of said particles and order of creation.SOOO...the word "Unitarian" only exists when all three, positive, negative, and neutral, exist in proper order in a single being, being The Father the Triune God-Head...NOT the Holy Spirit, because its negative leaning, two right handed, and feminine, and it is not even "one being", its all lifeforms...infinitely divisible.
>>18652260>mental illness>"iM a PsYcHoLoGiSt NoW!"Hashem is your LORD, your Ba'al, and its favorite Prophet is Jeffery (Judas Iscariot) Epstein, the weak welp who kills himself.ARE YOU BI-GENDERED OR MONO-GENDERED? YOU ARE NOT A MAN, SO DONT LIE ABOUT THAT TOO.
>>18652276I'm ta, if he's a unitarian, he's your christian brother. You should embrace him.
>>18652299>I'm taTrans-anon? Ok, are you BI-trans or MONO-trans?!?!>if he's a unitarianHE ISNT. He is Muslim or Jewish.>he's your christianERGO; NOT A CHRISTIAN.>brotherDAUGHTER*.>You should embrace him.YOU HAVE REJECTED YOUR CREATOR, MA'AM.>ignores reality and logic to push a narrative that affirms your invalid belief systemPENIS-WOMAN, SHALOM!
>>18652300I'm straighter than the pole your mom dances on. >ERGO; NOT A CHRISTIANBut hypothetically, nta if if he's a unitarian, he's your christian brother. You should embrace him
>>18652301>I'm straighter>"Im a woman who is attracted to women."FALSE.>nta if if he's a unitarian, he's your christian brother. You should embrace him....she literally cannot stop deluding herself with her Satanic, ego-centric, pilpulling...
>>18652301>I'm straighterOh, and if you have XX chromosomes...youre a masculine a s shit woman who acts like a domineering jackass and thinks that is what a man is. A purely will to power and not certainty of competency, because women cannot tell the difference between "man" and "tyrant".Either way, NOT STRAIGHT....so WHICH ONE?!?
>>18652312You're unhinged
>>18652322>unhinged>"i'M a PsYcHoLoGiSt NoW!"Im a professor of Developmental Psychology and Cognition. Jordan Peterson would be my student. Youre not a "peer" to review anything.You suffer from delusions of granduer and gender incongruence. Youre "Of this world (like the Hashem), not in this world (objective reality)."
>>18651864 (OP) Socialist Christianity.Acts 2:44>All the believers were together and had everything in common. They sold property and possessions to give to anyone who had need.Acts 4:32>All the believers were one in heart and mind. No one claimed that any of their possessions was their own, but they shared everything they had.Acts 4:34-35>there were no needy persons among them. For from time to time those who owned land or houses sold them, brought the money from the sales and put it at the apostles’ feet, and it was distributed to anyone who had need.
>>18652339>Socialist Christianity.Rabbi Marx's religion, feed the People a fish for a dei.Judas was in control of Jesus' group's money box, he was tithed to by the Pharisee Temple priests, he was the "central power broker" in his day.>All the believers were one in heart and mind.And those of an "other heart" and "other mind" cannot be part of it or they will take it all for themselves and nothing will be left, this is exactly what the left is attempting with open borders...Curious is the Judean's mind..desperately trying to ensure its demise with every thought and deed...
Calvinism
>>18652529>human salvation through the core concept of predestinationThen there is no such thing as "salvation" at all, its simply "the chosen" and "the unchosen".>Christ died specifically for the salvation of the chosen ("the elect")Ha, "The Elect" are asymmetrical peoples at the edges of the Holy Spirit, people who cannot "be" anything else because their nature is at an absolute extreme, and theyre "the elect" because they perceive reality from an unobtrusive perspective that is lost when the rest of the soul is joined with it. Not something to "seek towards", its something thats (mostly) inherently part of you and some get trapped into it and never leave. Think like "arrested developement" via Gene-Expressions.>"For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform great signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect."I find it rather too easy to "convince" someone of something when I understand boths sides of it better than they do, being I could "prove" both sides right or wrong at the same time, making it a matter of choice if I wanted to. Thinking in trialities, as the "third way" can make either complimentary or contradictory to itself.The "third way" is usually the correct way...until it default as one of the two ways, becoming a trap itself, and the Devil knows this.Eric Wienstein is a good example of this, he is the "duplicitious of mind", not "triune", so he plays both sides politically and refuses to take a stand (risk himself doing so) but if things fall apart he would fly to Tel Aviv (saving his own life he loses it), whereas Brett Weinstein did take a stand and accepted the risks *as an individual*.
>>18652529Well, I guess he could be speaking from "an elect's" perspective, and that wiuld explain why its so extreme, nihilistic, Jew-ish, with a relationship with God either indifference or "master/slave".>Perseverance of the Saints: Those truly saved by God cannot lose their salvation.Literal "Goy's perspective religion", worshipping chosen-saints as an "unsaved goy". Same rational as to why there are Rabbis that say they should be worshipped like Jesus, just inverted.
>>18651864Just various groups that exchanged sayings about him verbally. Also a lot of people claiming to be apostles or to have known Jesus. For some reason the Jesus story resonated with people so it spread like wildfire. Bigger congregations in Jerusalem, Antioch and Rome then wrote down some of those verbal stories. At first there were probably collections of sayings (like the infamous Q source). Then in Rome someone created the first gospel, later known as "Mark". Supposedly based on the stories told by a person who claimed to be the apostle Peter.The Mark gospel spread around. The first edited version of Mark was Matthew, which tried to establish that Jesus fulfilled all the prophecies about the jewish Messiah. So this was likely someone from a Jewish community. Then Luke and Acts were written by someone related to Paul, who shared a lot of Paul's ideas but disagreed about some things. Finally, many decades later John was written by some kind of scholar who wished to make sense of the Jesus story theologically. Some other gospels were created by people who had a similar desire to insert their ideas into the Jesus story, but those four remained the most popular ones. Bigger churches were established in the part of the Roman empire that is now Turkey and Greece. And they might have used their own preferred gospel and sayings collections. The Jerusalem church was destroyed eventually and only the Greek branches survived.
>Calvin called the belief that Mary can intercede for souls in purgatory or heaven blasphemous.Alright, Im finding it quite common for Mary to replace Jesus, like Martin Luther or the Vatican, "God the Mother" in Mormonism.>Calvin also supported her perpetual virginity, interpreting the "brothers of Jesus" as cousins.Lol....what the fuck is it with this "she needs to be a virgin or I'll hate her for sex-having!" incel shit?! Clean-philia, the Pharisees were very concerned about this as well.
>>18652696>worshipping chosen-saints>"further arguing that praying to the dead is not a practice supported by Scripture."Perhaps not but its riding the line with "the chosen few" being saved around you but not you yourself.>Calvin held that God's salvation or damnation of an individual seals his fate eternally.So the saints arent dead, just in heaven?>[praying] for the salvation of dead sinners, as their eternal fate was already sealed long before creation."The Chosen and the Goys".>"To this day we cannot enjoy the blessing brought to us in Christ without thinking at the same time of that which God gave as adornment and honour to Mary, in willing her to be the mother of his only-begotten Son."I dont think about Mary at all, ever...unless I see a Catholic or something. He is STILL fixated on her, he cant look away, "enthralled" by...She is "woman"...no more, no less.B^|
>>18652780>"enthralled" by...Reminds me of Judeans with Jesus, saved by Him yet their entire perspective is counter towards Him, thats why they are totally fine with other religions but are anti-Jesus.>Disclosure Day directed by Steven Spielberg>about "other world beings with inhuman levels of comPassion"Christlikes "from the heavens"...even when they try to steer away from it they invertedly points towards it.
Pastor Jim reading the KJV in English the way God intended
>>18652593>people who cannot "be" anything else because their nature is at an absolute extremeAnd you can still be "saved" (not the word I would use) by ascending *from* this perspective and not going towards it after "meeting the Holy Spirit".Its just..."living in Communion" means interacting with all peoples at all times Psychically, and thats also filled with evil people, murderers, faithless, etc etc (that alone shocks many, including Moses and that is why he "wandered the desert" (wasnt punishment I dont care what Scripture says I met his reincarnation in Israel a few years ago)."Seeking salvation" is cart before the horse. Thinking of it as a "ticket to heaven" is a "transactional exchange with God".
>>18651875BASED.>>18651864I see Gnosticism, the original Christianity before the Abrahamics poisoned it.Lol.
>>18652841>Pastor Jim>Not Joshua Grahamhttps://youtu.be/GzZqPbN9d-AReverend Jim Jones? Wierd choice but I understand.
Classic 4Chan being "based and redpilled".
>>18651864You see basically this, but with Jesus:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Merkabah_mysticismPaul was a practitioner of this type of Jewish mysticism so early Christian doctrine was heavily inspired by it. https://addisonhodgeshart.substack.com/p/paul-and-jewish-mysticism-free-post
>>18653241What drugs were they on?
>>18651864>Which version of Christianity do you see?You see people who otherwise would identify as the descendants of the greek gods calling themselves collectively the living body of the one true God, liberating their people from slavery, and asserting their right to rule their heavenly kingdom.
>>18653245People in general back then did a shit ton of mushrooms. They liked to spike their wine with them. I’m convinced that if Plato and crew were around today they’d all be huge stoners.
>>18652247>Jeffery Epstein was dominated by his internal woman and his internal male perspective was inverted making it closer to "two women"That makes sense. I also agree that he was a great asset and agent to worshipers of the female "deity", whether they want to admit it or not.They won't because no one sees how strong his female influence is, its a great chance to continue beating the men.And to think they wanted to scapegoat the homosexual men for all of this...
>>18651864The antifa of antiquity
>>18651864> You travel back in time to 1st century Christianity. Which version of Christianity do you see?Anglicans
>>18653698*American Southern Baptists
>>18653531>homosexualHow feminine can a man be before having sex with women is "same-sexual"?Now I see a "strong and independent" woman using her sexuality to exert dominance over a sexually inexperienced boy making him take a woman's role by default.
>>18653822did they....?
What the fuck...https://youtu.be/ajTCj0nrbkchttps://youtu.be/5qOMreXZFxs
>>18653823If a domineering XX-vagina-foid-otherkin was super forward Ayden would have reacted the same way...he isnt going to pull a Tate and "bitch slap her".Tate is playing both sides to his advantage...or losing himself to both sides to his disadvantage and thats why he is now awaiting extradition...
