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A few things about the Holocaust don't seem logical to me. Like that sign above the entrance of Auschwitz that said "arbeit macht frei" (translation: labour grants freedom). Basically promising that if you work you will be released again.

I assumed the nazi's were just lying since it was their goal to erase the entire jewish community right? But no, if you as jew would work (like throwing dead jews in the ovens) you would actually be allowed to leave the concentration camp. When I heard this I was like, WHAT!?

Don't get me wrong, I'm totally against all the evil stuff that happened during the Holocaust but I mean, if you secretly commit such horrific crimes you surely don't want angry jews to be able to go around and tell everyone about it right? So why would you release them?

Well, without these released jews to tell the horrible tales we wouldn't know about these evil actions and wouldn't feel like we owe the jews. You know what I mean? There wouldn't be a massive taboo regarding talking negative about jews in general and so it would be a lot harder for the sadistic jewish inbred community to infiltrate governemt organizations worldwide in their (long suspected)) attempt to gain world domination and be able to satisfy their sadistic inbred desires without being bothered.

Back in the day pretty much everyone was antisemitic so without the Holocaust and this guilt-trip effect they wouldn't stand a chance.

And after the October 7th attacks it is clear to me that the sadistic jewish inbreds have no problem with sacraficing a few normal jews.

What are your thoughts?
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schizoing out over mistranslated german
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Yes the Holocaust was as inside job that led to the creation of Israel.
Hitler was a zionist.
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If you are genuinely confused and not just dogwhistling, I will try to explain this so that it makes more sense. I am a holocaust studies student and hope this will clear things up:

First, many concentration camps were constructed or renovated from other structures in 1933-34. In these early years the Nazis had not even crafted the Nuremberg laws yet. At this time, the camps primarily served as a cheap method of internment for political dissidents, people accused of homosexuality, and actual criminals who probably deserved to be there. At this time, you COULD serve your sentence for hard labor and be released back into society, and this message; "Arbeit macht frei", served as one of reassurance that good behavior would let people out. Think of it like the gulag system in the USSR. This message became redundant during the major phase of the Holocaust (1942-45) as those who were serving sentences had either been released by now or destined to suffer the same fate as the Jews. Auschwitz around this time was converted into two distinct sections, with one being hard labor and the other being solely for extermination. No Jewish people ever legally left the camps after being sent there.

Second, the camps originally designed as extermination camps did not have this messaging. Treblinka is a notable example, and it was retired in 1943 after the Nazis simply ran out of dissidents in the region to kill. At the end of the extermination, the last capos were rounded up and executed by the SS. Treblinka's fate (now a pile of rubble with several mass graves around it) would have been the same for all of these large camps, including Auschwitz.
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>>18652389
>What are your thoughts?
Mainly that you are a mentally ill retard if you actually believe this.
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Hi there! Thanks for the elaborate reply with the explanation about the camps. It clarified the stuff that didn't make sense.

I'm new here so I'm not sure if I can contact you directly but it would be nice to talk some more about other stuff.

Like what do you know about the money, gold and art that was basically stolen from the jews by the banking sector after the Holocaust? I heard that Holocaust survivors could only retrieve the contents of bank accounts and safes from their dead family members if they could offer the banks official death certificates. Obviously nobody had that and so the banks were legally allowed to confisquate an enormous amount of wealth after nobody could paid rent anymore for those safes and bank accounts for an X amount of years. Later on, many jews went to court and managed to get a small amount of money back but not nearly as much as was taken. Lots of art is still not back at the rightfull owners because they can't proof it's theirs since the certificates were in those bank safes.

To me it seems millions of jews got 'harvested' by evil jews in the banking sector. And to make things worse, it looks like they're in the midst of orchestrating another harvest. Right now there are about 6 million jews living in America and look at how the outragious misbehaviour of Israƫl is creating an enormous amount of hatred towards jews in general. And look at how American soldiers are turning antisemitic because of that bullshit war in Iran. Like why was the USS lincoln not re-supplied with basic needs and food?

It seems they're trying to piss off the soldiers to make them willing to start killing 6 million jews. Oh yea, and lets not forget the plan to transform normal soldiers into testosteron bombs...

Let me know what you think.
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>>18652614
You click on the number next to the timestamp to reply to a message.

The topic of Jewish financial assets is quite complicated. valuables like gold, money, and financial assets were seized under an agreement at the Wannsee Conference. In this original agreement, the existing wealth was divided among the SS and Gestapo, the Reichsbank, and the Reichkommissars in charge of the camps. Gold itself would often go to the Reichsbank, as gold reserves were an important liquidity to the German economy even during the war.

Let me clarify; there is zero evidence of a Jewish conspiracy against the German people. The vast majority of the wealthy people who happened to be Jewish fled from Germany after the Nazi seizure of power up until the Nuremberg laws were put into effect. The remaining Jews were of all walks of life; artisans, clerks, craftsmen, laborers, farmers, students, and peasants. The wealthiest who were fortunate to escape had their assets seized by the Nazi government. The Nazis used all Jews as a scapegoat for any degeneracy, humiliation, or scandal in modern German history at that time. The Nazis blamed their loss in World War 1 on a secret Jewish cabal - despite the fact that Jews had very limited social mobility in the German Empire. Truthfully, Jews are the same as everyone else, and you probably wouldn't even notice if someone was Jewish unless they were Haredi or Ultra Orthodox.
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>>18652614
ignorant dumbass
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You know, no actual Nazi ever was a Holocaust denier.

To me this shows that everything the modern deniers try to claim is a silly contrivance. From 1945 onwards thousands of Nazis were captured and hundreds tried for their part in the Holocaust and other crimes against humanity. They tried to pretend they were someone else, they tried to pretend they didn't know what was happening, they tried to pretend they didn't have as much to do with it as others, they tried to claim they were just following orders and they tried to justify it as "the kind of thing that happens in war." But what NOT ONE of them EVER did was DENY it happened.

Even men on trial for their lives, in the full knowledge they would be hanged if convicted, never stood up in the courtroom and shouted "This is all a lie! This is a fabrication! There were no gas chambers and no crematoria! I'M BEING FRAMED!!!!" On the contrary, they gave great detail as to precisely how they had helped build and helped run the mechanics of mass murder, some of them even seeming proud of how they had achieved something so complex and on such a vast scale.
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>>18652689
>To me this shows that everything the modern deniers try to claim is a silly contrivance
They also gleefully daydream about the Holocaust as if it had happened when they believe themselves in good company and behind closed doors.
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>>18652389
No.
Firstly the Holocaust was more than just Jews. It also included the deaths of 11 million other people. Mainly Slavs, but also the disabled, Gypsies, political dissenters, homosexuals, and members of anti-Nazi resistance movements.

Secondly, you should never doubt a whole huge event based off of one small thing that seems odd to you. You need to look for a better argument.
Yeah 'work sets you free' seems on the nose, I believe that was because it was actually just a generic German idiom at the time.

Would there be Jews who'd be willing to sacrifice many of their own people to advance a Zionist agenda?
Yes.
But they did not have much political power and wouldn't have been able to organize anything.
Besides, the Nazis repeatedly admitted to the Holocaust.
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>>18652389
>Could the Holocaust conspiracy theory be related to all the newspaper stories using the 6,000,000 number since the late 1800s?
Yes. All the stories about 6,000,000 jews dying, starving, dead, long before WWII even started was part of a psychological operation to get poor dumb jews to leave Europe and go to Palestine, which was part of the Ottoman Empire until about November 1922. And after WWII ended they continued with the 6,000,000 number to try to get more jews to Palestine. Originally the jews wanted to settle in British East Africa, then changed to Palestine as mentioned in the Balfour memorandum.
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>>18652675
>there is zero evidence of a Jewish conspiracy against the German people
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>>18653747
Who was president of Judea at the time.
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>>18652687
$1.2 Billion just for being jewish. Amazing.
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>>18653744
>the number six million (6,000,000) has been used since the 1800s therefore thing didn't happen.
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>>18653790
They also used five or four million. Deniers just don't post those because they are lying rats.
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>>18653810
I don't really get deniers. Basically I always imagined it's around 10% ideologues and 90% gullible retards, but then you debunk all this crap and your average denier still remains one. It's like they are unable to realize that those neo-Nazi infographics lied to them, even if you clearly prove it.
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>>18653815
>90% gullible retards
maybe 10 years ago or on a different site. here on /his/ it's mostly dishonest fags obfuscating
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>>18653754
Note how this very important by simple to answer question hasn't been answered?
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>>18653754
>Who was president of Judea at the time.
>>18654093
>Note how this very important by simple to answer question hasn't been answered?
Note how easy it is look up basic information.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Zionist_Organization

Disregard the fake authority claims and find information for yourself. The tactic of claiming authority/expertise then making fake narratives and false arguments is always used to discredit important history.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtSTc15mjAE



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