Just as Cybele, Attis, Apollo, Hera, Poseidon, etc., and the rest of ancient Pagan pantheon.What did it mean them allowing the followers of the Sinaitic-Levantine god's (aka. Adonai in the native lang.) son, Jesus Christ (aka. Yeshua HaMashiach in the native lang.) led by Constantine the Great and later Theodosius the Great: 1. To beat the crap of Pagans in the Milvian Bringe. 2. To legalizing Christianity. 3. To ban the sacrifices Pagans did to them. 4. To persecute and ban their cults just as their followers banned and persecuted Christianity. 5. Stablish a new Abrahamic civilization which lasted the next 2000 years.>Does this mean that Adonai was too strong for all these god?, if they were weaker>What is the meaning of worshipping and mass scale murdering animals to weak spirits that fit as the Abrahamic category of fallen angels?>Does this mean that these Gods just didn't care for their followers?, but if they didn't care>What is the meaning of worshipping some demons which hypocritically asked for mass scale sacrifices without offering a real protection?
This doesn't in actuality 'mean' anything, but it could mean thatWhile there is only one Hashem and Hyper God, he created many others in his heaven, and set them up for specific human races. Then they probably disobeyed which is why a specific "fallen angel" type are mentioned in the book of Enoch.
>>18655918Would you theologically support the following views:>The role of the divine is to empower its followers>Its failure to do so is a proof of its absence>The logic and plan of the divine has to be understood in terms of interacting with the human plane >Ability to proselytise is a measurement of truthI've asked claude if there's any Christian theological basis for believing these.First makes you pentecostal but notably would be opposed by majority of classical theologists like Augustine and Aquinas. Second is predictably as non christian as it goes. I guess Martin Luther King who denied the deity of Jesus Christ would find himself somewhere in there but let's be real for a moment.Third is actually true, only gnostics would disagree.Fourth is complete nonsense and theologically ungrounded, closer to atheist philosophy.I won't post the entirety of the answer but I'll allow for a summary:>Overall: the pattern most resembles a prosperity-gospel or triumphalist framework — real biblical seeds (empowerment, divine involvement in human affairs) stretched into a package that treats worldly success and expansion as self-validating. That package is a minority, contested position even within traditions that emphasize empowerment most (Pentecostalism), and it's in tension with strands running from Job through Paul to the Reformation that treat suffering, minority status, and unanswered longing as compatible with — sometimes even evidence of — genuine faith rather than its disproof.Your post exhibits all these 4 factors so are you one of these rare, strange Pentecostalists or just another sudaca shitposter?
>>18655918You're being silly, and here's why. Judaism claims YHWH is the one true God and all others are false. Islam claims Allah is the one true God and all others are false. Christianity claims its Father is the one true God and all others are false. All three teach their adherents that the Gods worshipped before them were delusions, demons, or the products of human confusion. All three Abrahamic traditions share a lot in common. The most corrosive theological mistake shared by all three Abrahamic traditions is the equation of military and political success with divine favor. When Israel was victorious, YHWH was deemed with them. When Israel was defeated, it was deemed divine punishment. When Islam expanded from Arabia to Persia in fifty years, this was interpreted as proof of Allah's truth. When Christianity captured the Roman Empire, this was interpreted as Christ's triumph over the pagan gods.This is theodicy as history, and it is philosophically juvenile. It converts every military outcome into spiritual proof and every cultural catastrophe into divine punishment. The Ancient Gods do not operate this way. Zeus does not grant victory to the strongest. Zeus grants order to the cosmos. The victor in any particular battle is a contingent matter, and the cosmic meaning is separate from the temporal result. When Rome fell to Christianity, it did not fall because Jupiter had been proven false. It fell because the institutions that served Jupiter were systematically dismantled by human agents using human coercion: imperial legislation, temple closures, property confiscations, military force against pagan worshippers. Temples do not burn themselves. The Gods were forced into silence by swords and laws.
>>18655918thats a lot of typing to just say you worship an ahistorical jew named josh, jewish messiah and king of the jews.
>>18655918It's probably because you are a troglodyte who views the gods from the lens of a Marvel consoomer (including of course Jesus himself).Deities are supreme immortal entities existing in higher planes. Humans attach themselves to the deities that have created them, and draw down power from them, freely shared. But just because humans lose connection with these deities and fail to draw power from them any longer, does not influence these deities the least bit.The gods are doing just as well today as they were in the past. It is humans that are doing worse. Followers of the all too human cult of Jesus may beat their chests in triumph but all that has been achieved is a slump to base ignorance. Much ancient wisdom has been lost and destroyed, which could have been used to help everyone today. Oh well. Each man for himself now.
>>18656384I imagine Pagans were like this the moments ZUUUUUS let them be fucked out of existence by Christians despite having murdered 6 gozillions cows and goats to ZUUUUUS for protection that weekhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcI4VpbOtnI
>>18655918Hellenistic gods expressed themselves through the worthy and nature, it was a cult of knowledge. it was also a cult of mediation, where they would syncretize other religions with their own by looking for similarities and common ground, a rational yet spiritual form of religion. Christianity was a cult tailored precisely for the opposite, the mindless masses, the weak, the sick, the slaves. It was embraced only to appease the masses, it was utterly uncompromising, it sought and is still seeking to destroy all that came before it.If say the Greek gods were real, they would have rejected mankind due to falling for a unnatural and uncompromising cult of foreign destruction instead of looking for truth and knowledge and a general middle ground between culture, rationality and spirituality.They would be utterly disgusted by what man had become.
>>18656546to add, if anything they had a revival with the enlightenment but the abrahamic cult did anything and everything within its power to corrupt it, hence we now have a world devoid of gods and the corpse of a god as supreme image of worship.
>>18656546>>18656554>uhmmh, silly boy, some persons you tried to genocide for my sake worshipped le sinaitic levantine god's son... SO NOW BE RAPED AND EXTERMINATED THAT BY THEM TO LEARN YOUR LESON!!!!What did ZUUUUUUS meant with this?
>>18656565nice bait keep thinking you've won, here's my reply I am a child of earth and starry heavens
>>18656385Animal sacrifice by the 4th century was already unpopular to pagans in the Mediterranean and had declined massively even in the century before. They were considered too “messy” and most people had begun to prefer solely bloodless sacrifices that didn’t involve killing animals like incense, libations, and prayers.Also, most sacrifices don’t take the form of animals anyways. There are different degrees and levels of offerings and sacrifices. Incense and votive offerings were commonly used throughout pagan Europe. Germanic archeological sites are usually littered with golden figurines buried as sacrifices. Germans made sacrifices of everything really including swords and flags looted from enemies. The Romans often made offerings of oatcakes with butter along with frankincense to Jupiter.
>>18656569Would you let ZUUUUUUS fuck you under some horse shape in Mount Olympus as some short of neopagan Ganymede homomartyr for Pagandom? Maybe ZOOOOOS would grant you victory against ChristJUUUUZ this time
>>18655918>1. To beat the crap of Pagans in the Milvian Bringe.Constantine was technically pagan at the time (he wasn't baptized yet and still honored Sol Invictus). Also, Maxentius was pro-Christian too (he legalized Christianity and banned anti-Christian persecutions before Constantine). As for the rank and file, there were both pagans and Christians on both sides. There were no ebin Christian-pagan civil wars in the Roman Empire.
If the Christian god is real why did he let followers of a heretical religion take the holy land and cripple the orthodox Byzantines?If the Muslim god is real why is he letting his devoted followers get bombed repeatedly in the desert?If YHWH is real why didn't he save his people from the concentration camps?
>>186567831. God works in mysterious ways, libcuck pagan scum.2. Punishment for not being devout enough.3. The Jews were rewarded with going to heaven early and getting the Promised Land back.
>>18655918What is warhammer is actually correct in that the stronger a belief you have in a deity the more influence it has over realspace.
