How did Mao Zedong win the Chinese Civil War?
The KMT was depleted doing most of the heavy lifting against the Japanese, and the KMT was also quite incompetent and unpopular despite their victory against the Japanese.
1. do nothing2. win
>>18657229Cash My Check embezzled US aid
>>18657229Unbelievably bad tactics from Chiang Kai-shek mixed with extreme corruption in the military. We sent them billions and they wasted all of it.
father of the guerrilla war
>>18657269Should've put actual boots in the ground
>>18657319>We need to police every tinpot dictatorship and shithole worldwide and put our. good ol boys in danger for chinky dinkyNonestarter. Americans back then weren’t yet psyoped into becoming slaves to foreign powers
>>18657238>The KMT was depleted doing most of the heavy lifting against the JapaneseThe KMT had the most experienced soldiers and US industrial backing. Losing to a bunch of untrained commies with shitty soviet weapons is just beyond incompetent.
>>18657238They didn’t really beat Japan though, America finished the war for them.
>>18657338The commies did have industrialized Machukuo + they had a lot of Nationalist soldiers defect.
Mao Tse-Tung thought mobilized the peasantry of China to fight for freedom! Instead of abuse, Mao’s troops respected the land and peasantry through the three rules of discipline and eight points for attention!
>>18657229>敵進我退,>敵駐我騷,>敵疲我打,>敵退我追。>When the enemy advances, we retreat.>When the enemy rests, we harass him.>When the enemy avoids a battle, we attack.>When the enemy retreats, we advance.>—Mao's advice in combating the Kuomintang, 1928
>>18657229Do not overestimate mao. He was no superhero. China already was in tension and conflict because they did not know what to do after they stopped being a dynasty. Two groups were already fighting and he was just elected as the face of the winning group lol.
>>18657345They occupied it immediately at the start of the war, but KMT forces had evicted CCP forces from every city in manchuria within the first month of fighting, so they didn't really get benefit from manchuria as an industrial base until late in the war. But by that point KMT corruption and incompetence had utterly cratered China's industrial capacity anyway, as during the process of "repatriating the property of japanese collaborators" officials were supposed to take control of factories owned by collaborators until the original or more suitable owners could be found. In Manchuria most of these were just sold off for spare parts and the officials pocketed the money.
>>18657777Checked
>>18658145>chinks are willingly giving up landWhat are you even talking about?
>>18657229Proletarian genetics or something
>>18657229He was just that good.
>>18657229He leaned into the nature of chinoids as being retarded superstitious peasants and maxxed it
>>18657240/thread/
>>18657229The KMT shouldered the patriotic duty of fighting Japan while he was busy stabbing them behind their backs and doing everything in his power to ignore the treaty and promise of attacking the Japs.Mao would personally thank the Japs years later.Well, it isnt all bad though. Taiwan is nice first world country while mainland China is a shithole full of backward savages so I'd say Chiang got the last laugh.
>>18657240They did something though.
>>18657229The KMT was depleted after fighting the nips
>>18657229Pure competence.
>>18657240>do nothing and winwhat is with ching chings and saying this, they'll actually deny their history and say nothing happened, weird.
>>18659376>new fourth army incident? Never heard of it.
>>18659972It's funny how you're so insecure you couldn't just post whatever you're talking about and instead resorted to a greentext vaguely alluding to it
>>18659979Ok, well it was a very major event of GMD treachery that caused the collapse of the second united front, so I would assume anyone claiming Mao was stabbing the GMD behind their backs would be aware of it.During the 2nd united front the GMD and CCP still maintained the veneer of a working relationship to defeat japan despite clear signs of strain from the start. The new fourth army incident ended this. The NFA was largely a guerrilla force that had followed the Japanese advance far south of the yellow river, away from the CCP's northern strongholds. Although they were both ostensibly fighting the Japanese, skirmishes between the NFA and nationalist forces were common, though casualties were usually light. Both sides were guilty of instigating them. However in the fall of 1940 a Nationalist General was killed in one of these engagements, deepening tensions. The NFA was ordered to relocate north of Yangtze, which all but the headquarters detachment did. This detachment was mostly made up of non-combatants as it included hospitals and training facilities. It could not as easily be relocated as guerrilla fighters. Facing a deadline to move or be declared enemy combatants, the headquarters was ordered by its GMD superiors to follow an evacuation route that would have led them right into a Japanese stronghold. Diverting from the planned route, the communists found themselves encircled and attacked by nationalists, their supposed allies. The NFA forces were easily crushed, with thousands killed. This alone was shocking enough, but several thousand non-combatants were captured and treated barbarically by nationalist troops. The CCP had long had an interest in gender equality, so large numbers of women were in its administration. Those captured were raped en masse by nationalist soldiers. Many prisoners were savagely beaten and some buried alive. Of the 9000 person headquarters detachment, only 300 survived the battle and brutal treatment by their captors.
>>18657319Go look up Operation Beleaguer.>>18657338>with shitty soviet weaponsThey had whatever they had accumulated from defecting Nationalists and Japanese leftovers. It wasn't until Korea that they were getting Soviet materiel. This is in stark contrast to how much the US was supplying.>>18657345>The commies did have industrialized Machukuo The Nationalists started off with the important industrial bases of the northeast like Shenyang. But every factory in Manchukuo got stripped for parts by the Soviets. Neither side could really use them to their advantage.
>>18657229Parking the bus really
>>18657345>The commies did have industrialized MachukuoNo, they besieged KMT controlled cities in that area for years. Also, the Soviets stripped out everything that wasn't bolted down when they invaded in 1945.
>>18657777Why can't others replicate this success?
>>18660642The KMT was Barça/Pep/mostly the "beautiful" way. Mao was Real Madrid/pragmatic/no fucks given.
>>18660645Who would be Messi and Argentina?
>>18660663Israel, carried by the US Congress just like FIFA carried them.
>>18657229By not siding with reactionaries who wanted to keep China feudal and instead with everyone with an interest in overthrowing the society that made them weak Siding with the (situationally) weak looks retarded, but those are also the most motivated Building a power base of foreigners and rich is actually a recipe for weak support because there are fewer of them, in the era of the gun, which needs folk to swing lead >>18657269Ie he was paying off unmotivated people who were already stealmaxxing the poor, whereas Mao just offered to give people stuff which was life changing even if tiny
>>18657269>weYou weren't there, buddy
>>18657319Considering Mao ended up betraying the USSR and aligning with USA. What would be the point? If Chiang won, he could betray USA just as easily as Mao betrays USSR.
>>18657229a combination of Mao being extremely talented at peoples warfare (there is a reason every guerilla movement to this day uses his tactics) along with the KMT making easy as shit for his forces to recruit from the average chink due to how inept they were at ruling
>>18660711I think he means Americans as a whole.
>>18660783Chiang would never. His wife was educated in the US.
