Redpill me on forced bussing. Is it true that in the 1970's the US government forced busses full of "rowdy teens" and "lunchtime rascals" to attend schools in nice areas?
The 70's were rampant with anti-white policies and straight up ethnic cleansing of white communities (so called "white flight") and it was rampant because they were so guilt-stricken that they complied.But forced busing was the exception. People hated it with a passion. It had nothing to do with racial prejudicies as you allude to in the OP, even libs hated it. It was only Weather Underground types who supported it.
>>18657687The dark races believe light skinned people are magic and that by being around whites a dark skinned person will become good, or something.
>>18657687it was a noble attempt to break down the US pattern of neighborhood segregation, get kids to mingle when young regardless of ethnicity, and give everyone a decent educationunfortunately it didn't work so now we have /pol/
>>18657725>noble attempt>"we cared too much"No, no. If you had truly cared about people the thought would have never crossed your mind.
>>18657703my highschool use to have banners with all their achievementslike this year our team won the bla bla bla this year our school won bla bla bla and i found it extremely funny that all those banners stopped exactly when no child left behind got passedi wonder if they even hang them up anymore since the school remodeled or if its just more ((lost history))
>>18657725it was a bad implementation. Rather than picking up random kids and bussing them off at some school miles away from where they lived they should have just decoupled school funding from local property taxes to solve the obvious inequality that cements and construction of affordable public housing across the country so that the communities school districts serve aren't so homogeneous in race OR economic class the first place rather than putting the cart before the horse like they did. But that would have been too threatening to bourgeois interests so of course it didn't happen that way.
>>18658021>giving more money will make schools betterThe shittiest schools in the poorest neighborhoods in NYC have horrible outcomes despite outspending better schools. The most reliable way to predict school outcomes is racial make-up, not the amount of funding.
>>18657864no child left behind was right wing neoliberal bullshit intended to defund already struggling schools and extracurriculars that would teach anything other than what might make you a better goyslave wagie in the future and pave the way forward for an eventual voucher system/privatization of public schools.
>>18658024Here's Bayside High School by contrast, where they spend less than half per pupil compared to the innacity school. 80% of the pupils are proficient in reading and 99% graduate.
Poor white people commit the exact same amount of crime as poor black people. The only reason why black people statistically commit more crime is because they are more likely to be poor than white people.
>>18658066>Poor white people commit the exact same amount of crime as poor black peopleThis is explicitly false. You can proceed to your next cope about overpolicing or something.
>>18658034>no child left behind was right wing neoliberal bullshit intended to defund already struggling schools and extracurriculars that would teach anything other than what might make you a better goyslave wagie in the futureSo, basically you shouldn't learn useful life skills and it would be better to learn what instead? Fingering a dude's butthole in the Folsom Street Fair?
>>18658066Poor white people commit violent crimes at a lower rate than the top 1% black people.
>>18657725>it was a noble attempt to break down the US pattern of neighborhood segregationIf you want to be a martyr for a "noble cause" yourself you're free to do so, forcing others to be martyrs against their will is a sin.
>>18657725>the US pattern of neighborhood segregationYou think the US is the only place where children attend public schools in their neighborhoods? or that there are no good reasons for that kind of "segregation"?
>>18657725Forced integration isn't noble
>>18657687Forced Bussin in Ohio
>>18658639tldr
America is expected to be majority latino in ten years btw better learn Spanish soon lol.
>>18657687They would force white kids from the suburbs to go to the ghetto as well.
>>18659570Pretty sure it's projected no race would have a majority and whites would have a plurality.
>>18660013Jesus, I would just drop out at that point.
>>18658078This isn't true. Black people do commit more violent crimes than white people per capita (about 3x more likely to be arrested), but the difference isn't THAT stark. Honestly that 3x figure can basically be boiled down via accounting for overpolicing + wealth disparities + structural racism in the justice system to like 1.5x I would guess. Are black people less intelligent on average? Yes, but not so profoundly. Being born black in America is a pretty shitty roll of the dice.
>>18660698baka nigga, black areas are "overpoliced" because that's where the crime is
>>18660710More crime per capita, not the majority of the crime. Yet coppers dedicate 75% of their patrols to ghettoes. Also, I forgot to mention the absolutely dire and vitiated state of black american culture. That definitely accounts for some of the disparity. You can immediately tell when a black person was raised away from that culture
>>18660698>>18660724Your entire argument relies on downplaying numbers and blaming disparities on oppression as always. First of all the gap is closer to 6x than 3x as you said, and "overpolicing" or "structural racism" don't explain how in DOJ victimization surveys violent crime victims(many of them black themselves) report their assailant's race as black with almost the same proportions as arrest stats. Wealth disparities also don't explain it despite you impotently saying "this isn't true".
>>18660698this nigga really said committing crime at 300% higher rate isn't THAT different.
>>18660742>incarceration rateHave you ever heard of a plea bargain? As soon as some poor nigger gets arrested the DA and the public defender have a handshake agreement to put him behind bars for 2 years, trial be damned. The gap is about 3x, look at the FBI crime statistics. Overpolicing and systemic racism are real things. I've lived in black neighborhoods; I've seen this shit firsthand. And like I already said, wealth alone doesn't explain it. Different ethnicites have different physical makeups, including their brains. This doesn't mean black people are subhuman or inherently bad
Black crime and social dysfunction was always higher than for whites, but it really shot through the roof starting in the late 60s.
>>18660724>Yet coppers dedicate 75% of their patrols to ghettoeslolno. cops mostly leave ghettos alone and would rather do low-risk stuff like shake down harmless-looking white people for ticket money or carrying an open liquor bottle in public.
>>18660757basically, drugs, welfare, the rise of hotep shit, and people becoming less religious in general
>>18660724> That definitely accounts for some of the disparityI agree. Picrel doesn't reflect differences in ancestry very well.>>18660763I recall that the crime gap has largely been in torpor; Increasing black wealth could very well be a counterveiling force to cultural degeneration. It'd be strange if what you're suggesting is actually the case, given both the diversity of black crime rates + how much the nature of black crime has seemingly changed.
>>18660780Higher quality.
>>18660780Of course increased wealth lowers crime, no one said rich black people commit crime at the same rate as poor black people. It's just that they are still more violent than even poor white people. Why is lilywhite dirt-poor drug-addicted West Virginia's homicide rate merely in line with the national average while east St. Louis is one of the most dangerous places in the world?
>>18660805>Vivek Ramaswamy infiltrating the right wing politics trying to fit in while importing millions more IndiansNote what this means: Vivek resents american culture and ranted against how it celebrates the white girl prom queen over the jeet spelling bee champ. He could've kept his twitter rant aimed at Indians but instead he made it clear his enemy were white American "jocks", and he believes he's superior because his parents forced him to go to kumon.
>>18660811>He could've kept his twitter rant aimed at IndiansI mean blacks
>>18660806> It's just that they are still more violent than even poor white peopleIf memory serves correct, this is actually a fake "fact", though it's not that large of an exaggeration.In any case, I wasn't suggesting that wealth was the cause for the black-white crime gap. As a matter of fact, I actually implied that genetics were involved. My only divergence from you is that I believe that cultural diferences are very much relevant.
>>18657687Yes.Contrary to popular belief, ethnic communities in America naturally segregated each other. The US government decided that this ever-growing disparity would invariably produce future ethnic conflicts, just as it had done in the past. Their solution was to force them together by force. It turned out as well as you can imagine.
>>18660819I actually intended on citing Botswana at the end of this message, but then I remembered the locals had significant Khoisan ancestry, which, while definitely having a negative impact on their IQ, should make them more "domesticated".
>>18657711They sure are following the whites. It's not only about escaping poverty, having better conditions. It's literally going where whites are.If not why are they going to small villages not in europa?They have everything they want in cities. Social housing, work, infrastructures. But no, they want to open a kebab in the middle of nowhere.
>>18660806West Virginia's unemployment rate is only 4% while eastern St. Louis is 10%.
>>18660841The labor force participation rate is almost the same in both places. And WV ranks dead last in labor force participation among all states.
>>18657711Christogenea shitter post
>>18658024>>18658036Heard on the radio last week that Detroit Public Schools have managed to get truancy (18 or more days missed per school year by a student) down from 70% to 60%...
>Ramaswamy is pro-Israel and calls Israel "a Divine nation, charged with a Divine purpose".[149] Ramaswamy has said Israel should feel free to oppose the two-state solution.[150][151]give many supports to our greatest ally sirs
>>18657703When white people leave it's white flightWhen brown people leave it's gentrification
>>18660827Singapore explicitly bans ethnic ghettos, people of all races are forced to cohabit in housing facilities.
>>18661423singapore is a totalitarian dictatorship larping as a developed country
>>18660592majority of swarthy people calling themselves with will switch to being latinx when it becomes useful
>>18658562No one was martyred, you drama queen.
>>18661619The point of his post remains
>>1865768758 year old here and I vaguely remember around kindergarten, going with my dad down to the elementary school in our 1st tier metro Detroit neighborhood where there was a big protest by all the parents about forced bussing plans to ship us to Detroit schools and bring Black kids up from the city to suburban schools.Forced bussing was a straight up anti-White policy implemented by the Dems which was universally opposed by White parents for obvious reasons and at least for me, so many parents bitched up a storm that the plan was abandoned before I was subjected to it.
>>18661702How does someone as old as you even survive this cancerous board
>>18661765The Internet has been around for a while now, son. I got my start on Usenet and while I'll agree /his/ is kinda shitty because of the retarded religious threads, 4chan is the last remaining place on the internet where free and open discussion is allowed.
>>18657687A few years back, I spent several months researching a subject which required me to do a deep dive on busing. I can go into detail on whatever anons want, but here's the short version:> Brown v Board of education mandates integration with schools (so no more white schools and black schools)> nearly everyone is fine with thisBut there is a problem...> in some districts, there aren't enough white kids to spread around, (and in other districts not enough black children to spread around) to comply with the ruling> First they tried in-district busing. So, if your school is in (for example) Atlanta school district, kids could be moved to any other school in the same district.But they still didn't have enough black/white kids to spread around> so they came up with the concept of cross-district busing, where students from one city/district would be bused to another city/district> Parents DID NOT like this at all. Both black parents and white parents protested> but they kept planning on doing it, because they still had to follow the ruling.Here's the fun part:> Nixon was tipped off in 1971 that it was an issue that had legs> He (almost alone) figured out that most people were misreading the issue, treating it as a civil rights issue instead of an education issue> he runs a secret poll which confirms this theories> he decides to put himself in the only politically safe position on the subject, and waits for it all to blow up.> it does, just in time for the 72 election> the ultra-liberal wing of the DNC pulls a late night trick to put a plank in FAVOR of busing on their national ticket> now every dem candidate is cooked because they are now required to support something that 80% of the population was against.> meanwhile, the only democrat who is opposed to busing is George Wallace, which has his own problems.> dems can't figure out why he wins the primary in the state (Michigan) which is the center of the growing outrage/riots over busing.
>>18661796On the subject of Nixon figuring out early that it was going to be a big issue, it all started with this phone call with Chuck Colson (Nixon tape 8-87). Nixon is surprised to learn that both black and white parents were protesting busing in Boston; then quickly did the math remembering that most of the dems who might try to run against him were already on record in support of busing.https://millercenter.org/the-presidency/secret-white-house-tapes/8-87See image for the secret poll Nixon had run. The results come down to this:> most people are in favor of desegregation of schools, but NOT in favor of busing> this mostly crosses all racial lines> the question came down to school quality. If parents thought their kids went to good schools, they were opposed to busing. If they thought their kids went to bad schools, they were in favor of busing them to good schools.This is why nixon stood on a message of "I'm against busing but I'm FOR good education" and wouldn't let anyone budge him from it for two years
>>18661702Pontiac was ground zero for the issue. Well before the issue went national, someone set fire to all of the Pontiac school buses rather than have them implement the busing.>>18661765>>18661775Old man here. Chan is quaint compared with the unrelenting and unedited filth that was once alt.binaries
>wypipo jus be gettin away wit dey crimes cuz da police ain be out in force in the timmyburbsDo nons really believe Whites are out stabbing women on subways and murdering kids over chairs but just not getting caught because the police are too busy beating down Groid Floyd on his way to turn he life aroun'?
>>18661619Millions of White and Asian children's futures are martyred every year in the name of "progress".
>>18661619literally every black on White crime would have been prevented via segregation.black on White murders dwarf America's wars, anti-racism has killed more people than fucking wars.Get the fuck away from us you fucking orcs.
>>18661796>>18661813>>18661821> On the subject of the 1972 democratic convention:Late on the last night of the convention (and possibly in reaction to the very-loud anti-busing George Wallace supporters at the same convention), the radical wing of the party pulled a procedural trick to put a pro-busing plank on their national platform.See image for an article which came out a few days later; which all but admitted that it was going to be a complete disaster for anyone trying to run that year as a democrat.
>>18661828They will never refute this. Like how every single murder by an immigrant was preventable.
>>18661828That's impossible to prove. BTW pre 1960s apparently white on black sexual assault going unreported was absolutely rampant
>>18661925If it was unreported then how could you be aware of it?
I have read that about 1 million white girls and women have been raped by blacks in the SOUTH alone since the 60s and for all the talk americans do about their guns they have done jack fucking shit about it
heard that the poster above gets raped by niggers every day and it goes unreported
>>18661702Based oldanon. My dad told me stories about what was happening at the time in metro Detroit. Lines up with what you are saying.
>>18661828>Get the fuck away from us you fucking orcs.
>>18661796>dems can't figure out why he wins the primary in the state (Michigan) which is the center of the growing outrage/riots over busing.In the 1970s the Dems abandoned White working class voters to support Leftist insanity and this resulted in Reagan winning two terms and Bush one.Today we're seeing the same thing, where Trump got elected for two terms not because everybody thought he was the best guy for the job, but because they refused to have the Dems force batshit crazy Leftists policies down their throats.
