A middle-aged German man told me that all nations did evil things and that Greeks commited equally evil actions like them.Was he right, or was it a quick defensive judgement?
>>18659308Counterpoint: there are still Greek people alive today who can remember the Germans coming into their village, shooting the men, stealing the sheep and burning the houses.
>>18659308Germany was the only country in history to do conscious genocide on an industrial scale. The Soviets and Mao also killed millions of people, but they did so through sheer incompetence, not as a goal. The Japanese killed lots of people, but they did not have plans to exterminate the Chinese race in its entirety. Germany, on the other hand, had genocide written in the official documents. Orders for the Leningrad blockade specifically demanded that German troops make sure the entire population of the city starved to death, with no ambiguity. It's the kind of mind-boggling evil that could only be created by an authoritarian dictatorship combined with racial superiority politics.
>>18659323Counterpoint against jewish rats like you: Germans never did that except the subhuman slavshits which these ones deserved it entirely for endangering German lives every moment they were alive.
The worst evils ever committed by the German people were during the 30 Years War, long enough ago that I think we can move past it. As bad as WW2 was, I don't think we can really hold it against the Germans for failing to exterminate the Jews. They tried their best.
>>18659327>the difference is germany wanted to systematically exterminate people>while the rest of the world wanted to systematically torture, displace, and exploit people for profitMost optimistic take on the entire human species.
Swedes were worse.
>>18659332The difference is that with capitalism, exploitation can be arranged in a way that makes all sides fairly content with themselves, avoiding violence, and encouraging growth. With extermination, one side is not going to be happy no matter how you do it.
>>18659337>exploitation can be arranged in a way that makes all sides fairly content with themselves, avoiding violence, and encouraging growthIn your fantasy, most of the time the prosoerity of a nation is also achieved by taking control of key resources even with military intervention and not just by epic capitalism that is not exactly exploitation due to voluntary agreement, but it's undeniable state power is not just free markets.
>>18659308modern greeks don't have the mental capacity for evil
>>18659328>Germans never did thatThe Germans were so proud of doing it they took along photographers to document them doing it.
>>18659308>Was he right, or was it a quick defensive judgement?He's oversimplifying it. Every nation does evil shit, breaking eggs, omelets, etc.. etc.. The issue isn't the act of evil, but the consistency and time between evil acts. It takes roughly 22 years to "talk" about getting over something, and about 32 years for the public and global community to "kind of" get over something shitty. If you keep doing shitty evil activities, even if they're kind of petty or small, in the mean time it won't give anybody the time to get over it. HOWEVER, if you did a bunch of evil shit, that also didn't even benefit the nation, that has an exaggerating penalty because not only is your countries' gooberment evil but they're such worthless fucking dipshits they can't even capitalize on the evil. It's like an oil or a tobacco company somehow operating at a loss.
>>18659308Probably in Ancient Greece.#NeverforgetTroy
>>18659327>Orders for the Leningrad blockade specifically demanded that German troops make sure the entire population of the city starved to death, with no ambiguity.wait until you read the jewish bible
>>18659308The Greeks considered Alexander the Tyrant one of their own so I guess the destruction of Thebes was pretty holocausty.
>considered *consider
>>18659308The holocaust is a unique and singularly evil event in human history because no other genocide was ever done in such a sxientific, bureaucratic and industrialized way which is uniquely horrifying. But it is true that really every country has done bad things in its past to further national interest which harmed some people.
>>18659551>sxientific, bureaucratic and industrialized way which is uniquely horrifying.Palestinian genocide today
>>18659583>PLEASE think of the people I'll be calling shitskin raghead terrorist fickificki rapefugee goatfuckers in the next thread
>>18659349>and about 32 years for the public and global community to "kind of" get over something shittyduring the Spanish-American War it was worried that moving Army units through the South would be a bad idea, but they got a friendly reception from the locals. it was 33 years since the Civil War.
>>18659590Who are you quoting?
germutts always get raped and genocided by Poles
>>18659308>all nations did evil thingsBasically all of them.Recall what einstein said about the jews "they are no better than any other people, just shielded of the worst excesses by lack of power". Well guess what they're doing now they have power.But obviously, some will do worse than others. Germany did a lot of evil in a very short time, more so than most others. Maybe the mongols come close. Others like habitual conquerors and slavers did a lot of evil over a longer period. And of course, seeing it in a purely national frame is kind of silly, since most nations were ruled by elites who also committed evil against their own populace.>>18659551Horrifying yes, but more so because it destroys our lofty hopes that civilization, science and industry makes people better. To the victims it makes little difference. Who knows, some of the might have preferred being gassed quickly over being raped or tortured before, as happened to many victims both in WW2 and historically.
>>18659935Germans always live rent free in the minds of raped and genocided poles. Sad!
>>18659583Not at all comparable. All Israel's fiercest critics have accused it of is denying food trucks entry to gaza for a couple weeks while one government minister called it a "total siege". That's it, that's all the horrendously biased UN prosecutor has been able to accuse them of.This is nothing like the nazis developing industrial murder factories purpose built to kill and despose of the bodies of as many people as quickly as possible, while diverting a huge amount of rolling stock to bring people to them by rail, hunting down every last jew, gypsy, homosexual, or political dissident they could find.
>>18659965>fiercest critics have accused it of is denying food trucks entry to gaza for a couple weeksAnd bombing hospitals, nurseries, maternities, schools, water treatment buildings, houses and everything else on sightAs well as snipers shooting little kids, babies, pregnant women and the elder in the head for fun, as well as randomly kidnapping, torturing and humiliating civilians, as well as using horny dogs and iron rods to rape them, as well as tossing hostages to hungry crocodilesShall I continue?
>>18659308He was right. Those bastards deserved every atrocity directed at them for what they did to Troy.
>>18659327>>18659551>>18659940>>18659965Shove your jewish atrocity propaganda up your ass. That shit only works on boomers who don't know what jews are like when they go mask off.
>>18659308I guess you could argue the Balkan wars and 1920 war attacks against turkish civilians would be the greek atrocities, but to be fair there was bad blood for 400 years at that point and the ottomans weren't exactly considerate. My family is from northern greece and always described the civil war as far worse than the occupation.
>>18659308No. Germans are uniquely evil, at least amongst european nations.
>>18660310I literally called out israel in my post. Are you perchance an idiot?
>>18660325If only it were so.
>>18659328Germans are more related to russians or poles than greeks i reckon
>>18659446Alexander also glassed Gaza
>>18659308Everybody was actually with the Germans, Hitler ordered them to take all the blame in the end.
>>18659328https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalavryta_massacrehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Missiria_executionshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Kondomarihttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kandanos_massacrehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viannos_massacreshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacre_of_Kommenohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lingiades_massacrehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallikratis_executionshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drakeia_massacrehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pyrgoi_massacrehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_May_1944_Kaisariani_executionshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distomo_massacrehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Mousiotitsahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Executions_of_Kokkiniahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Skourvoula_executionshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_of_Kedroshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malathyros_executionshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chortiatis#The_Massacre_of_Chortiatishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aigaleo_massacre
>>18659986Guess I missed all this retarded made up shit by not being on tiktok.
>>18659910You you dishonest duplicitous little rat.
>>18661117>>18661119post foreskin
>>18661117It's been all over the news and they are proud of doing it anon. You'll know switch to "well they were terrorists!" line.
>>18661121Fucking faggot.
>>18661123Prove it then, if you can.
>>18659308kind of true but Germans did their evil shit in living memorythe past was full of atrocities and texts from antiquity are full of grim reading about massacres
>>18661154Literally a photo of them bragging about murdering pregnant women anon...
>>18659328Shut the fuck up krautnigger, you lost the fucking war and slavs are superior people to you.
>>18661252You are so dumb, you cannot even insult germans without drawing upon an american pejorative.
>>18659308Mithridates the Great committed genocide against all Italians in Asia, but nobody cares about that because it’s LE OLD
>>18659323Counterpoint: you are Turkish and not Greek
>>18661251See>>18661154
>>18661277>he killed a million billion romans all across asia minor all in one night!The le old sources are not reliable.
>>18661286>how could you cremate so many Romans in so few ovens so quickly?
>>18661285Literally included a photo in the post anon.
>>18661264Its just the most effective insult against you weheraboos.
>surely we will be forgiven in the future if we exterminate entire towns in the era of photography and video
>>18661288Is this all the supposed proof you have? A thumbnail image of an offensive t-shirt design that looks like just the kind of thing a website produces automatically when you upload a design, to show you what it would look like. This is your proof that Israeli snipers intentionally target pregnant women? No identification of actual victims, no israeli soldiers identified (despite your claim they are "bragging" about it) no independent verification? You know, basic investigation stuff. If this is all it takes to convince you then you are a fool.
>>18661412http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/7960071.stm
>>18661459Are you aware that this article is from 17 years ago? It also says this was not sanctioned by the IDF and they will discipline any soldiers that wear tasteless clothing like that. Again, where is your evidence that this Israeli snipers intentionally murdering pregnant civilians is actually happening right now in gaza?An edgy t-shirt from 2 decades ago is not that.
>>18661279Counterpoint: a metric fuck ton of Turks are realizing now in real time from dna testing that they have mostly Greek/Anatolian in ancestry.
>>18659308Well no shit, every nation has its dark moments
>>18661279Why would a Turk care about this?
>>18659308Oh 100%You have to keep in mind that "nations" are an abstract concept. It's all ultimately shorthand for power structures. When we talk about "Greeks", "Romans", "America", "The USSR", "The UK", "did this bad thing" What we really mean is; "The guys that had control over the power structures within an area delineated by these borders did this one thing and its was a dick move". And Yes, power structures have a tendency to attract colossal douchebags. And colossal douchebags do ass douchbage bullshit things, all the time to everyone around them. It's simultaneously one of the best and worst arguments for hereditary absolute monarchies. So yeah, most countries have more than a few cases of douchbaggery in their history.
>>18661535>>18661279I mean, it doesn't really change anything either way.
>>18661469kys lying hasbara rathttps://x.com/gazanotice/status/2064416930472046715https://files.catbox.moe/42o36w.webm
>>18661288>>18661251You don't understand how hasbara works, do you? There's literally an official manual for it. Hasbara rats aren't acting in good faith. They're trying to dissimulate. Just expose them.
>>18661336>‘We must flood social media with fake news to defend Israel’>Israeli politician Eli Hazan says the ‘truth no longer matters’https://x.com/HatsOffff/status/2089129226373128384
>>18661469>The IDF has been murdering Palestinians and laughing about it for 20 yearsWow!
>>18662887It's not for the lying little rats, it's to show everyone else what they're doing.
>>18662887the fact that such a website could even be made and contains thousands of videos when Gaza is such a tiny place is honestly depressing tbqh
>>18662923>It's not for the lying little rats, it's to show everyone else what they're doing.Okay you're doing good then.
>>18659308How did a turkish thread about gayreeks turn into an israhell expose? Not complaining about either direction desu
